No Doubt in my mind that 5dimes Bonus Craps is Rigged!!

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  • tdog1986
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-21-11
    • 200

    #1
    No Doubt in my mind that 5dimes Bonus Craps is Rigged!!
    So I am up big this week and earlier today one about $250 playing craps..

    After being up about $1300 this week, the software decided it wasnt going to pay me regardless of how I bet.

    No lie guys. I just played for 1 hour on the "Any craps bonus" table and DID NOT hit a point one time!!!

    The average roll was 3 for the WHOLE HOUR OF PLAY!

    Can I send this data over to someone so they can explain the odds of this happening?

    Also to not forget, I covered the board all the way across 8 different times after the point was made. EVERY TIME the next was a 7 out.Im not making this up and would like to share this data with someone who is good with craps.
  • Isaiah
    SBR MVP
    • 11-06-12
    • 1013

    #2
    An online casino that owns the software is fixed? WHO KNEW!? Everyone is absolutely shocked by this revelation! Thanks for the heads up.
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    • mtneer1212
      SBR MVP
      • 06-22-08
      • 4993

      #3
      A. Playing craps with a computerized dice roll in an online casino is asking for trouble.
      B. Do you think that the online craps game was an ATM? To quote Robert DeNiro, "in the end, we get it all"
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      • de2de3
        SBR Rookie
        • 07-03-12
        • 39

        #4
        "Wow" People still play in the casino.
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        • relaaxx
          SBR MVP
          • 06-15-06
          • 3281

          #5
          Originally posted by Keith Richard
          What happened to the other 5Dimes thread where OP thought 5D treated him dirty? Deleted?
          was looking for the thread - was hoping to find out what happened, or any info, guess it's gone----like to know why
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65307

            #6
            Originally posted by Keith Richard
            What happened to the other 5Dimes thread where OP thought 5D treated him dirty? Deleted?
            My guess is the guy was found to be full of shit.
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            • dimaggio8
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-14-09
              • 507

              #7
              Originally posted by tdog1986
              So I am up big this week and earlier today one about $250 playing craps..

              After being up about $1300 this week, the software decided it wasnt going to pay me regardless of how I bet.

              No lie guys. I just played for 1 hour on the "Any craps bonus" table and DID NOT hit a point one time!!!

              The average roll was 3 for the WHOLE HOUR OF PLAY!

              Can I send this data over to someone so they can explain the odds of this happening?

              Also to not forget, I covered the board all the way across 8 different times after the point was made. EVERY TIME the next was a 7 out.Im not making this up and would like to share this data with someone who is good with craps.
              tdog- Are you really that surprised? Has this happened to you before?
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              • Foosball Champ
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 10-19-10
                • 994

                #8
                All the online casinos are rigged
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                • blankoblanco
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-18-11
                  • 3491

                  #9
                  I'm less of a conspiracy theorist than most around here but I still wouldn't play casino games online. Even if there's a 90% chance they're legit, why even take the 10% chance that it's rigged and you're burning money. They can program this stuff in their favor so easily and there's almost no chance they'd ever get caught. IMO you should channel your degenerate urges purely on sports betting, because you know exactly what you're betting on and then the only way they can screw you over is by not paying out
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                  • Keith Richard
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-06-06
                    • 1576

                    #10
                    Was my question deleted too?
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                    • jtoler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-17-13
                      • 30967

                      #11
                      Of course its rigged. Like poster said above, they are providing the software and paying out money if you win, umm yea its rigged out the anus no doubt. Try playing their solitaire, Im sure youve played solitaire before on maybe the computer, any decent player wins sometimes, well not at 5 dimes, its rigged no matter how you play it, I played a couple months ago quite a few hands for maybe 5 cents just to pass time, out of maybe 50 hands the software made it possible to win about 5 of those hands. Its pathetic, never will waste even 1 red penny on any casino software again.
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                      • robmpink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-09-07
                        • 13205

                        #12
                        I'd love to add to this and my experiences with this software and/or books that use it.

                        That being said, I trust 5 dimes the most since it was audited by Eliot Jacobson about 3 years ago.

                        I also don't think that because this software was audited for 5 Dimes, it means this software is the same for all books that use it. I think books can manipulate it.

                        The software is notorious for sick runs coupled with seemingly never ending droughts.
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                        • robmpink
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-09-07
                          • 13205

                          #13
                          I've been meaning to join some casino forums of late to get a better sense of how things work. I've been experiencing a really bad losing streak since March, and feel there is a lot more to it.

                          To clarify, this isn't at 5 dimes.
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                          • robmpink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-09-07
                            • 13205

                            #14
                            The 5 Dimes bonus casino's software is digital gaming solutions, which the sbr casino is as well.
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                            • tdog1986
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 10-21-11
                              • 200

                              #15
                              Originally posted by relaaxx
                              was looking for the thread - was hoping to find out what happened, or any info, guess it's gone----like to know why

                              SBR is deleting every thread regarding 5dimes slow play and casino frauding.
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                              • Microphone
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-08-08
                                • 2950

                                #16
                                Casino auditing. Does that really mean ANYTHING?
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                                • jtoler
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-17-13
                                  • 30967

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Microphone
                                  Casino auditing. Does that really mean ANYTHING?
                                  Absolutely nothing.
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                                  • captrobey
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-02-10
                                    • 34355

                                    #18
                                    I have put tons of stuff on Sportbets rigged as hell BJ (Run by 5Dimes) . Cracks me up when people come on saying it is not rigged and it iss random. They say you just do not remember when you win because it is so fast . But i go back and look at every session . Every time dealer ALWAYS has a 3-1 or 4-1 ratio of 20s and 21s to you . Every Time. There is no way in hell that is random.
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                                    • LordVodka
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 08-17-09
                                      • 5206

                                      #19
                                      I have about 3000 hands from 5dimes blackjack copied to break down the wins and such. No way any of these blackjacks are not rigged. Even the one here at SBR is ser rigged.
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                                      • robmpink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-09-07
                                        • 13205

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Microphone
                                        Casino auditing. Does that really mean ANYTHING?
                                        Are you implying the auditor is crooked? They tested the games. It was done by a professional, with a background. Not some sort of make believe authority.
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                                        • Microphone
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-08-08
                                          • 2950

                                          #21
                                          Me, imply that Rob???? Lol. Never. They just get some hack who supposedly has a great reputation and pay him off. This isn't rocket science.

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                                          • Microphone
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-08-08
                                            • 2950

                                            #22
                                            They had the "Wizard of Odds" Michael Shackelford. Google him. He was their audit person.

                                            Conclusion

                                            Aside from the Craps data from 2002, all the results of this audit fall within statistical norms according to my analysis. The Craps data from 2003 look fine and well within the normal range of statistical variation. Overall, for the most recent data submitted, I can say that XTECH is offering fair games of chance, and the outcomes fall within statistical expectations.

                                            If you have any questions about this audit, please contact me by one of the methods below.

                                            "Contact information removed, per the request of Mr. Shackleford."

                                            Thank you for choosing me to audit your software, and I hope to continue to do so on a regular basis.

                                            Michael Shackleford, A.S.A.



                                            I wonder what happened
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                                            • HeDidDisToHim
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 11-19-12
                                              • 78

                                              #23
                                              Say it ain't so! Try playing your casino games in "practice mode" and pretend it is real -- you will kill it!
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