Held hostage by the bonus rollover rule: Please Help!

**grantingyou** · 05-07-14, 03:12 PM

Have you called BookMaker and explain the situation? I don't know, but can they deduct any winnings that came from the Bonus, and let you cash out?

**Simon Gruber** · 05-07-14, 03:14 PM

They won't do that.

**hurricane1091** · 05-07-14, 03:41 PM

70,000 in rollover? How?

**rangerz2478** · 05-07-14, 03:42 PM

If you had another account with a big balance, you could try to find games with a limited juice difference and play both sides on different accounts towards the rollover. But based on the fact you are claiming you need this money asap, I assume this isn't an option. Other than that, don't think you have many options. Books are ridiculously strict on these rollover requirements. Have yet to hear a case where they gave in.

**grantingyou** · 05-07-14, 03:44 PM

You could use Halftime Bets and Live Wagering bets to buy back your game bets and even try for middles.

You may not always have the perfect opportunity and you might have to pay some Juice.

Just one idea.

**Redondo** · 05-07-14, 03:46 PM

what deposit and freeplay amount did you make and recieve to get a 70,000 roll. I know they do 25% freeplay for 10K wire deposits

**rangerz2478** · 05-07-14, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by grantingyou

You could use Halftime Bets and Live Wagering bets to buy back your game bets and even try for middles.

You may not always have the perfect opportunity and you might have to pay some Juice.

Just one idea.

Live wagering does not count towards bookmaker rollover.

**Krashman** · 05-07-14, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Simon Gruber

So basically, I have 13.5k in a bookmaker account right now. I don't want anything to do with gambling anymore and I went to withdraw the balance this afternoon. Since I took the freeplay bonus when I deposited they're not going to give me my money. It's an emergency that I liquidate this account, and I don't know what to do. Of the 70,000 dollars I need to wager to be able to fulfill the rollover I have done 28k, so 41k or so to go. Obviously in hindsight I wish I hadn't taken the bonus, but thinking about that now isn't going to help me move forward. If anyone has any ideas on ways I can liquidate this account or strategies for me to get the rollover completed as fast and conservatively as possible moving forward I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks SBR.

Sounds like you got your entire BW and arbing bankroll stuck in there? Greedy greedy...

You could gamble a bit, put same size bets on any line +100

If you bet $100 on say 10 of these a day. That's $1000 a day rollover.

You have roughly even odds of breaking even at the end of the rollover, relative to your current balance.

Of course, now your gambling, could swing either way.

If you can't find enough bets, increase the range, say +103 to -103?

Not fast enough, increase the bet size. But the bigger the bets the more variance.

**Simon Gruber** · 05-07-14, 04:45 PM

Yeah guys, I guess I'm kind of stuck having to either gamble a bit or eat some of the money in juice to get it out quicker. Thanks for the replies. I really appreciate all of your help.

**frostno98** · 05-07-14, 10:17 PM

Drop all that money on the Heats or Spurs to win their series. That an easy 13k rollover.

**rangerz2478** · 05-07-14, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

Drop all that money on the Heats or Spurs to win their series. That an easy 13k rollover.

100% false.

Only the base amount of the wager counts. So if he layed $10,000 to win $1,000, only $1,000 is applied towards the rollover.

**Redondo** · 05-07-14, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by hurricane1091

70,000 in rollover? How?

funny he is actively replying to this thread and ignored this question by yourself and me.

**rangerz2478** · 05-07-14, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Redondo

funny he is actively replying to this thread and ignored this question by yourself and me.

I don't see why it 70,000 doesn't make sense. Most books apply the rollover number to the deposit + bonus amount times whatever rollover. (could be 10-20 time rollover)

For example - If he deposited $5,000, and got a 20% bonus on a 10 time rollover, that would be $60,000 rollover right there.

**hurricane1091** · 05-07-14, 11:46 PM

I never took a bonus before. Do books really require that much of a rollover? That sounds idiotic to take a bonus then.

**rangerz2478** · 05-07-14, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by hurricane1091

I never took a bonus before. Do books really require that much of a rollover? That sounds idiotic to take a bonus then.

Books that offer a substantial bonus (20% plus) usually put it with really high rollover requirements. So when taking a bonus, you really need to decide if it's worth the extra stress and aggravation. If you are someone who is going to potentially need the money right away, you should NEVER take a bonus.

**hurricane1091** · 05-08-14, 12:33 AM

I just went with reduced juice, which isn't anything for soccer unfortunately. The other major sports all have a reduced section though.

**rangerz2478** · 05-08-14, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by hurricane1091

I just went with reduced juice, which isn't anything for soccer unfortunately. The other major sports all have a reduced section though.

I assume you are talking about 5dimes. If you plan on doing this for a while, reduced juice long term is worth more than any bonus you could possibly get.

**eberetta1** · 05-08-14, 12:57 AM

I know on Bookmaker once, I had played $3500 and they said I needed to play $6500 more to do a complete withdraw. After betting about $1000 more, I asked them how much I can withdraw, versus a complete bankroll withdrawal. They said $700. I said do it, because withdrawing $700 is worth the $50 fee they charged for my partial withdrawal.

P.S. Small print... Only bets made on odds from 1.5 (-200) to 4.0 (+300) will
count towards the Rollover.

**relaaxx** · 05-08-14, 08:42 AM

sounds like Bookmaker is the sportsbook(live betting does not count for roll). good luck. getting money out quick will cost a fortune even if you did the rollover. hope this works out better than it sounds for you.

**Microphone** · 05-08-14, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by rangerz2478

Books that offer a substantial bonus (20% plus) usually put it with really high rollover requirements. So when taking a bonus, you really need to decide if it's worth the extra stress and aggravation. If you are someone who is going to potentially need the money right away, you should NEVER take a bonus.

Forget when you need the money. Skip the bonus period.

What a hassle. Best of luck to you.

**Redondo** · 05-08-14, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by rangerz2478

I don't see why it 70,000 doesn't make sense. Most books apply the rollover number to the deposit + bonus amount times whatever rollover. (could be 10-20 time rollover)

For example - If he deposited $5,000, and got a 20% bonus on a 10 time rollover, that would be $60,000 rollover right there.

20% is a 5 times roll of the deposit and winnings of the freeplay. My point was I was curious if the guy made a very large deposit for 20% or got a 100% and used the freeplay on a parlay or something.