I'm just curious why some books don't offer much in perks. For example.... Bovada only offers a scale for a casino rebate. They only cover your deposit fee if it's $300 or more. They don't offer any perks on sports wagers. Sbgglobal.com will reimburse your deposit fee on every deposit. They occasionaly will cover a payout fee up to $500. They give you 10% rebate on casino losses mom-fri. They give $5 for $5000 sports action, $5 for $10,000 casino action. They even gave me a $50 free play on a straight bet for my birthday. I just don't see how some books can get away not offering competitive perks to their customers.
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The world's best bookmaker offers the best "perk". It's called low juice. That's all they offer and they take the largest bets too.
So many fools fall for a whole range of "freebies" which lock them into betting into heavily juiced markets, not realising they are in effect paying for those perks and thinking they are getting a better deal.
In the end it probably separates the long term winners from the losers. Only winners truly recognise and benefit from betting in lower juiced markets.Last edited by Hareeba!; 04-22-14, 03:56 AM.Comment -
depends on ur sport of choice...
low juice does not even help me in mine because low juice its not offered at ANY book....its all personal choices
if ur just betting major 3-4 sports then yes low-juice of ourse, if not even available for your sports, much better optionsComment -
Judging from the avatar I think it might be NASCARComment -
Hareeba hit the nail on the head you cannot compete with a low juice sports book like pinnacle and matchbook no matter what the other books offer in Perks
It's unfortunate Americans have no other choice but to take those perks
The non-US player has a major advantage over the US player in terms of edge and valueComment -
shilling for Sbgglobal?Comment -
you got 4 posts chicklets...not too much cred...Comment -
those aren't perks they are gimmicks to entice some to bet more with a twisted thought process at least I am getting comped., 25% gamblers insurance on net losses is the best i've ever seen, they one rule is you need 10 weeks of action and betting 1 game a week qualifies, I was curious so i asked live help if someone was a heavy bettor and lost 100K, the would recieve a 25k freeplay? they said yes. Obviously the goal is to try to make money but this seems like the best perk to me. I won't mention the name of this book, i don't get paid a penny for endorsing this palces so why bother. some guys will know who i am talking about. oh and bovada doesn't offer a casino rebate, they comp you for action if wager over 5K and it's alot like the $5 per 10K in action you described, that's a slap in the face and nothing is actually bettor sometimes, i've lost over 20K in their casino before and recieved maybe $20 for my action. this was money earned sports and poker so if they offers a 10% casino rebate it's be 2K not $20. If you wanna bet big in casino's online you really should do it at places with rebates, the odds are much the same at alot of them. like the software 5dimes,sbr and betdsi uses.Last edited by Redondo; 04-27-14, 01:11 AM.Comment -
I know a lot of people say that about bonuses. With me though my style of betting more aggressive a bonus helps in the beginning. Best example is i am cashing out $10000 tomorrow at RW .I started with $350 and a 100% FP . So i normally go all in. So that is basically a start of $700 compared to $1400 . Normally i bet $500 though but you get the idea. Anyways i actually worked it up to $13000 (I was thinking of trying for $15000 by monday) but i lost a couple games so i am good with $10000 . A shame the Over 188 lost last night it even went into OT and it fell short. If they would have tied it again at the end with the 3-ball i would be at $14000 now instead of $10000. Well , a little Over that not much maybe $70 to play with still .
I think who you are talking about also has a wheel spin right? I have always deposited like $400-$500 normally there so i get the lesser amount back . I guess for 25% it may be worth doing $1000 once . The one time though i got nothing back because i hit there for $10000 so i was ahead.Comment -
You listed northbet as reputable. Do you know when or how northbet started??? They have been around for 3-4 years while there are numerous other books who have been around for 15+ years. Northbet was started by ex-employees of another sportsbook who stole their database when they left. When you do business with thieves you get what you get. Do some research pal.Originally posted by chicklets77Comment -
Internet has changed this is why you see all these problems. If you think these were not going on back in the day your crazy, there just wasn't a place for everyone to get together and discuss them. More and more people are finding forums and posting their problems which is why it looks like its getting worse and worse. The only thing that has steadily got worse is books kicking out winners but slow pays and no pays have been there since the start of online betting.Originally posted by chicklets77Comment -
yes that is the one, man i can't believe i took that over 188.5 too, It was my last play of a three teamer, had purs -1 1st Q,cubs brewers over 4 1st 5 and that depressing ass pick okc/mem over 188, that is flat out depressing to watch some manyt back to back missed shots.Comment -
Betonline should of refunded that deposit to the card they can't just keep it. If thats the case charge back on them and that will do them a world of hurt with their processors.Originally posted by chicklets77
Closing accounts has gotten worse but thats all part of the game, gotta find ways around it.
For USA players yeah there are not many options and most of the worry I have with the books that operate there is not them closing up and leaving with funds, its the government seizing their funds and site, it puts them in a place where they no longer have funds to pay because of the government took everything. If you can fix things with betonline they are good book, I have won 40k there and was able to get it all over a little time as they have a max payout of 8k a week. 5Dimes is ok and they should pay you, I just have an issue with their limited payout options and max of 3k for their best option. Bookmaker should take care of you another who i have seen payout 30-40k without question. Non-US theres a whole world of options.Comment -
I have had a couple tough losses like that . The Cubs i had a few days back that would have been 1000 . They had a 5-2 lead going into T9th and lost giving up 5 runs . To think 188 should have been a lock with OT normally but your right they shot so badly. How much would you have won on the 3-teamer if that would have hit?Comment -
Be careful of books that offer a lot of perks. It's usually a ploy to get your deposit. Stick with the main books and you will be fine.Comment -
$1200, i've been deposting $100. to three times a week for the couple months, had have over 2k twice and pissed it away before withdrawling a penny, of a funny thing about wager web, i have lost couple dimes within the last few months, emailed them about a courtesy freeplay, th manager emailed me back we've credited your account with $5 freeplay, I can't wait to take that place for 10 grand LOLComment -
I also have been gambling for about 15 years online exactly and am 35, I am not desulional thinking i'm going to turn a bill into thousands even though i have tons it dozens of times over the years . I often times fund books with a dime and don't give a crap about bonus of any kind, I play all the big boys, youwager,5dimes,bookmaker,bovada.etc any of those would be very shocking to the gen public and 1000's of people if they went under, I also play wagerweb,gtbets and a few other small shops that wouldn't be earth shattering to see a thread they close with player funds. If i was wiring 10 grand i would feel comfortable sending to any of the first books I mentioned.Originally posted by chicklets77Comment -
Funny story with that too, i was insulted by the $5 5 times roll freeplay,l bet that on 7 team parlay had a couple -190 plays in there, it paid 86, i ran that upto $350 on blackjack and had completed the roll in the casino, i blwe that on a 2 teamer. it would have been so sick to withdraw $300 off that $5 and send that 300$ back the next day for 50% freeplay LOL, totally pissed at myslef for not doing that.Comment -
How is this azzhole even still alive after all the players he has fukked???Originally posted by chicklets77Comment -
Yes but sometimes the only way other then flying all the way to Vegas is to do sportsbetting online. Unless i find another bookie but i got burned for $4500 once by a bookie . Most times i have been paid so far with online books with the exception of Betmania because they screwed me on my limits when i still had a roll to do . Now if Sportsbetting comes to AC that would make it interesting that is an hour away .Originally posted by chicklets77Comment -
Yes i know and TY for wishing me luck. I actually am cashing out at RW $5000 and another $5000 next week they have always paid me. I try to play at books i have already been paid-RW,Youwager, And Justbet . All for hits of $10000 . I hit way way back for $5000 when Bovada was Bodog took a month but i did get my $5000 . I think if a book has paid someone a large amount then the odds are you will get paid there.Originally posted by chicklets77Comment
