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allin1SBR MVP
- 11-07-11
- 4555
#36Comment -
HeeeHAWWWWSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-13-08
- 5487
#39
Oh. I'd assumed just greed initially, but looking at that list I'm thinking it's partly to do with transaction costs and fraud risks. Those in the 7% bracket are scam central, the bookies have a lot of trouble from there.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#40Just to be clear: if you don't do live trading there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to open a Betfair account now. It's just not competitive.
Exactly..that is what Betfair is for
Betfair in NJ for racing is useless..there will be virtually zero in the pools..its for NJ residents only and on track handle is very lowComment -
dealer winsSBR Wise Guy
- 02-03-09
- 816
#41I only use Betfair when I have to, and will use whichever site gives me the best "net" price". I am no longer bothered about doing bets just to make betfair £100s and keep my x% discount. Too much hassle and I begrudge Betfair too much now anyway.
Joining Matchbook has been great, and the 0% of soccer has already saved me at least £1000 in commission!!Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#43
I don't live trade but would be lost without Betfair, particularly for horse racing.
Cheap AH soccer gets a good deal of action from me too as does golf and F1 which none of my other bookies, including Pinnacle serve at all well.Comment -
TFCSBR High Roller
- 04-21-10
- 161
#44Yes, and the likes of Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Netherlands and Austria deserve a 30% hike because of all the nefarious "Swedish Prince" scams that originate from their countries?Comment -
kkkkkSBR Wise Guy
- 03-30-09
- 523
#45i dont know you all complain about 5%, im paying 20% since 2008 - 5 1/2 years and im still happy to play there becose of liquidity.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#47Hareeba there is very little AH money in nthe ppols for soccer pre game, even in game not as much as totals and 1x2.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#48
Do you play them?
I do.
I find that by pitching for a couple of cents more than Pinnacle and SBO I almost always get matched for takeouts of up to $2k pre game.
Sure there's not the volume of 1x2 and totals betting. I suspect most Poms don't really understand AH and find it too complex?Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#51So much for the arguments that Pinnacle always beats Betfair on US sports.
Right now I can get better ML odds (net of my commission) for both teams in the Superbowl at Betfair.Comment -
gaebiskonSBR Wise Guy
- 03-10-12
- 869
#52Isn't Matchbook catching up?
I hope Matchbook soon offers live betting for every sport. Can't wait to switch completely to it.Comment -
tommygunSBR MVP
- 07-01-10
- 2239
#53I don't do live trading. It's not legal online in Australia.
But there is no way I'd leave Betfair and I'd strongly encourage anyone who bets on racing to open an account there. They are by far and away the best place for betting on racing.
And for sports no other establishment offers as many markets. For some sports I bet on Pinnacle's and SBO's limits are pretty low. Betdaq? Australians can't bet there!
Yes the increase in commission in some countries and the premium charge crap is a concern but fortunately doesn't directly affect me. I just wish Betfair would get back to concentrating on what they set out to be in the beginning - and achieved it remarkably well.
also there are ways around if you get what i mean.....BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.
Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#54
Soccer? Presumably you are talking Euro, not Aussie? Most of that happens when we are sleeping!
And can you get timely vision?
Sure you can phone Betfair but by the time you get through and ID yourself odds have moved.
Not my scene.
As for ways around it -yeah I know two smartarses who thought that too and both ended up with their Betfair accounts cancelled permanently. I'm not willing to risk that thanks.Comment -
allin1SBR MVP
- 11-07-11
- 4555
#55
I love the fact that they focus only on sports betting. Those stupid games that are advertised on betdaq or betfair websites are ridiculous and annoying.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#56Betfair live betting for NBA games is very good with very solid volume, NFL and MLB is good too if the games are on tv in the UKComment -
kkkkkSBR Wise Guy
- 03-30-09
- 523
#57yeah but the reason is not that the games are on tv in uk, becose you cant bet live with such delay to UK, the reason is that those games are transmitted at many places, and one of them is UK.Comment -
kkkkkSBR Wise Guy
- 03-30-09
- 523
#58i will becose if i bet live with other EU bookies i face 10-13secs time for accepting bets and in most sports odds changed meanwhile. and with betfair you know you have 5 or 8secs and bets will be matched for sure at that price. so i preffer to pay 2k comissions monthly from something rather then get 100% from nothing.Comment -
tommygunSBR MVP
- 07-01-10
- 2239
#59To trade in play you need to be getting fast tv transmission. I don't have that.
Soccer? Presumably you are talking Euro, not Aussie? Most of that happens when we are sleeping!
And can you get timely vision?
Sure you can phone Betfair but by the time you get through and ID yourself odds have moved.
Not my scene.
As for ways around it -yeah I know two smartarses who thought that too and both ended up with their Betfair accounts cancelled permanently. I'm not willing to risk that thanks.
2. Soccer yes
3. Australian and European
4. The odds don't move that fast.
I don't know about you Hareeba! but I don't have trouble trading euro games.
This was simply a response to saying it can't be done and is illegal which is completely wrong on your behalf.BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.
Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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tommygunSBR MVP
- 07-01-10
- 2239
#60getting my bet on Hareeba talks 15 seconds, down to a fine art, the positions and times I strike in a match this normally has no affect on me so no problems of big line movements.BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.
Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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tommygunSBR MVP
- 07-01-10
- 2239
#61To trade in play you need to be getting fast tv transmission. I don't have that.
Soccer? Presumably you are talking Euro, not Aussie? Most of that happens when we are sleeping!
And can you get timely vision?
Sure you can phone Betfair but by the time you get through and ID yourself odds have moved.
Not my scene.
As for ways around it -yeah I know two smartarses who thought that too and both ended up with their Betfair accounts cancelled permanently. I'm not willing to risk that thanks.BETTING EXCHANGES, easy money.
Soccer Tipping: 5-0-1
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Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#62
Yes, I know it CAN be done but that doesn't make it legal. I'm not interested enough in doing it to take the risk of having my Betfair account closed like those of a couple of people I know who thought they were smart enough to fool them.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#63Pinnacle day to day blows away Betfair if you add up every line and 365 days a year
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muffinsSBR High Roller
- 03-03-12
- 145
#65Not quite right, offering live betting to Australian's online is illegal. It is not illegal for you to bet live online as an Australian, the crime is committed by the operator not the player. See Interactive Gambling act 2001 Part 2 s.15.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#66Correct of course. Thanks Muffins.Comment -
DaverrdSBR Rookie
- 01-27-11
- 25
#67
Having said that though, 30% increase in commission hasn't hit here yet fortunately (Australia) but I wouldn't be too shocked if they bring it in eventually.
Betdaq being blocked for Australia is a bit annoying, will look at WBX and Matchbook though have heard good things from friends.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
- 37212
#69
competition winner markets on golf, tennis, motor racing, football, basketball, baseball, ice hockey etc etc etc.
then of course there is soccer (and some other sports) which is a 3-way market.
The other thing you can't do at Pinnacle is ask for a price and get it matched some time later.Comment -
DaverrdSBR Rookie
- 01-27-11
- 25
#70Yes there are plenty of sports with more than one outcome. Even in 2 team events like football ( soccer) you can lay a draw or lay either team (3 outcomes: 1X2)Comment
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