Ok guys, can someone tell me....

[zizoudane10]

Why I see so many people from the US on sbr crying about the "good old times" when they were still able to use Pinnaclesports, SBO etc, when there is a simple solution to this?

Seriously: Why have I never ever read a post on here from guys using agents?

[crustyme]

Gaming and legal sources confirmed the charges involve PinnacleSports.com, one of the largest offshore sports wagering websites. Sources said agents for the website were arrested in several cities Wednesday.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/business/casinos-gaming/cantor-gaming-sports-book-director-arrested-faces-eight-charges

[zizoudane10]

Gaming and legal sources confirmed the charges involve PinnacleSports.com, one of the largest offshore sports wagering websites. Sources said agents for the website were arrested in several cities Wednesday.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/busines...-eight-charges

Righty right, no question.
But nobody ever heard of BET-IBC?
All guys from Germany who were ****** by the states 5% rule which lead to SBO, 188bet etc not accepting customers from Germany anymore are using them. And it's oh so easy.
You guys can still use Western-Union etc, right?

[zizoudane10]

So seriously nobody uses them?

[jjgold]

no

its illegal

[gauchojake]

Very interesting. Haven't heard of them but looks like it might be a work around.

[zizoudane10]

no

its illegal

Very interesting. Haven't heard of them but looks like it might be a work around.

All I can say is that EVERY serious player here in Germany uses them. And it works 100% damn fine. They even provide a special service for high-rollers to meet you f.e. at an airport and give you cash....

[gauchojake]

All I can say is that EVERY serious player here in Germany uses them. And it works 100% damn fine. They even provide a special service for high-rollers to meet you f.e. at an airport and give you cash....

Prost!

[zizoudane10]

Prost!

Prost

[MUHerd37]

I used to use a brokerage and bet at Pinnacle

[zizoudane10]

I was just surprised, that I never read about guys doing this. But all of the time I read complaints of not being able to use Pinnacle (SBO, whatever) anymore.
I'm not sure if you might need a Proxy (easiest thing to do though) to access Pinny. But BET-IBC opens the account for you. So your name and state doesn't matter at all to use them.

[MUHerd37]

I used a broker who set up the account and handled all deposits and withdrawals. I used a VPN when I went to Pinnacle to place the bets.

[zizoudane10]

I used a broker who set up the account and handled all deposits and withdrawals. I used a VPN when I went to Pinnacle to place the bets.

Right, basically the same.
We have tested them a long time now, and they are absolutely great.

So why do I keep on reading these posts like "wish I could use Pinnacle/SBO"?
Because you CAN.

[WhatALoser]

There are always ways but eventually everything catches up to you. USA is on another level. Other countries are cool because they're less lenient. Nothing is private anymore in the states. As much as people enjoy the new gadgets and technology that's out now, law enforcement loves is just as much if not better because I'm sure they've got better.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

You guys can still use Western-Union etc, right?

yeah but if you use w-u too much, you get black listed.

once you're black listed, no more w-u

[zizoudane10]

There are always ways but eventually everything catches up to you. USA is on another level. Other countries are cool because they're less lenient. Nothing is private anymore in the states. As much as people enjoy the new gadgets and technology that's out now, law enforcement loves is just as much if not better because I'm sure they've got better.

No question about privacy (NSA has a big dependance in Germany btw...).
But honestly: People sending money to any shady offshore book available, yet they won't use an agent? That's incredibly stupid IMO.

[zizoudane10]

yeah but if you use w-u too much, you get black listed.

once you're black listed, no more w-u

You guys might use

Skrill
Neteller
W U
Money Gram
Bank Transfer

W U black lists you? Why is that? Isn't it bad for business? I would encourage you to use my company like crazy if I was them.

[lakerboy]

zidane what is the goal here bud? you are on a a site where people bet $5 per event. what use would they have for pinny? pinny cant be beat anyways. yes i know you and your friends are winning there.

[zizoudane10]

lb, no goal at all. Just asking why people are whining that they can't use Pinny when they can.
And if you are losing @1.98 lines, you are def losing more on 1.83 lines or worse. If you want a book you can catch sleeping, Pinny obv isn't the choice for you. If you want a book that offers you the best odds available on the market (with the option to bet more than the average 5$), yes, in this case Pinny simply has to be your choice. I don't know about which "friends" you are talking here, but yes, of course you can be an overall winner at Pinny. In fact more than with any other book. But the average guy who is throwing darts at 10+ plays every day is losing at any book. I have seen one good volume bettor here on sbr, that is RussianRocket. Maybe he would be even better would he concentrate on the games he really really likes. Maybe not, no idea. But please don't tell me you can't beat Pinnacle. I can show you a guy who started with 1000 units 5 years ago and is now at 600.000 units. Only basketball all around the globe, mostly Pinnacle. Documented record from his first play on. All black on white. Discipline and work. Just as in real life.

[Darkside Magick]

If ibc -bet opens the account @ pinny and it don't matter where one is from...I think you still would need vpn/proxy to make bets in u.s.

In any case this some good shyt

[MoneyLineDawg]

Just a joke threads like this even need to exist

Shame on the dirtbags in our government that try to run every single part of our lives

[zizoudane10]

If ibc -bet opens the account @ pinny and it don't matter where one is from...I think you still would need vpn/proxy to make bets in u.s.

In any case this some good shyt

Yeah, vpn/proxy would be needed I think. But that's supereasy in the 21st century.

Just a joke threads like this even need to exist

Shame on the dirtbags in our government that try to run every single part of our lives

100% agreed. It's a disgrace and a bad fukking joke.

[jjgold]

Zizzy if you think someone you have zero clue about the business

You think you need a proxy at pinny

ROOKIE NIGHT

[zizoudane10]

Zizzy if you think someone you have zero clue about the business

You think you need a proxy at pinny

ROOKIE NIGHT

So jj, tell me more
No, I myself don't need shit to access Pinnaclesports, because I am from Germany.
You might be the only guy from the US that is still able to log into Pinny with an IP from the US
But hey, it's 3rd shift jj, business as usual.

[zizoudane10]

Here it is again for our special dancing midget, just for you jj:

https://bet-ibc.com/pinnacle-sports-blocking-all-ips-from-the-usa/?lang=de

[RubberKettle]

I used a broker who set up the account and handled all deposits and withdrawals. I used a VPN when I went to Pinnacle to place the bets.

I have done the same thing. Not many will give out connections or secrets on forum. Everyone looking for an edge not working together.

[looneytunes]

...

[relaaxx]

great thread

[OnkelChris]

Here it is again for our special dancing midget, just for you jj:

https://bet-ibc.com/pinnacle-sports-...e-usa/?lang=de

Giving your money to an agent is neither a trivial thing nor a matter of course. It is all about trust. If this one person one day decides to run with your money you can't do anything about it and you will never see a cent of it again.

[packerd_00]

Righty right, no question.
But nobody ever heard of BET-IBC?
All guys from Germany who were ****** by the states 5% rule which lead to SBO, 188bet etc not accepting customers from Germany anymore are using them. And it's oh so easy.
You guys can still use Western-Union etc, right?

There a rip off

[5mike5]

yeah but if you use w-u too much, you get black listed.

once you're black listed, no more w-u

Not if ur smart about it. 15 years and going using all the time. Never 1 question

[bigboydan]

Not if ur smart about it. 15 years and going using all the time. Never 1 question

Hi Dad

[zizoudane10]

Giving your money to an agent is neither a trivial thing nor a matter of course. It is all about trust. If this one person one day decides to run with your money you can't do anything about it and you will never see a cent of it again.

It isn't a single guy you are giving your money, too - it's a company whi are specialized since years and are working closely witg the big asian books. While I agree with the whole “trust“ issue: Lots of you guys trusted a guy that looked like Jon from BI.... Just saying. Banks are folding, companies are folding, all of the time. Trust is important, but as long as guys are trusting offshore bookd that exists since 6 months in banana republics... I'd rather trust an experienced company like the one I mentioned. Sorry for grammar mistakes, typing from cell phone, am on an annual party from the Judicial society of my girl. Right now a fat lady is singing Italian songs from the 17th century, disgusting as fukk... So I am at the bar, smoking, drinking whisky till she's done...

[zizoudane10]

Not if ur smart about it. 15 years and going using all the time. Never 1 question

I read somewhere you gotta stax under 4 figures. Is that true?

[Jim_Gunn]

Great thread! As a U.S. player I have recently wished I could wager at Pinnacle in addition to my other sportsbooks, mostly because I believe they offer another option especially for live betting of which there are very limited options for us. That IBC-Bet link looks interesting, especially since I have a VPN that can make me look like most any civilized country.