my mistake , deposited to an F rated sportsbook because of the bonuses

**TennisProFrance** · 07-23-13, 11:58 AM

How much we talking about?

**SBR Forum** · 07-23-13, 12:01 PM

Hi Candyman,

Welcome to SBR Forum.

What sportsbook did you deposit to?

**Wannabe_winner** · 07-23-13, 12:07 PM

I'd like that too, horrible situation. I'm not publicly naming the book until Friday (assuming I don't get paid by then), so please don't ask. PM me

**TennisProFrance** · 07-23-13, 12:09 PM

Post up the amounts you have stuck, if its more than beer money I will sort it for you, for a fee.

**Wannabe_winner** · 07-23-13, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by TennisProFrance

Post up the amounts you have stuck, if its more than beer money I will sort it for you, for a fee.

PM sent....

**5mike5** · 07-23-13, 12:17 PM

if a book isnt gonna pay u because u posted their name on this forum, u werent getting paid anyway buddy

**King_Suckerman** · 07-23-13, 12:23 PM

Have you filed a complaint with SBR?

**TennisProFrance** · 07-23-13, 12:52 PM

Replied.

**TennisProFrance** · 07-23-13, 12:53 PM

Yes fill out a complaint, probably wont help but will flag the issue and perhaps will put pressure on the scum bags.

**touchback** · 07-23-13, 04:59 PM

I would not waste a whole lot of time with trying to get money out of an F rated service... you need to move the balance out. The most efficient way though is to have quite a few funded outs to line shop or it can be difficult to get the lines you need with only a couple places...The basic concept of a scalp is to find an underdog that will pay off a higher amount than the price it costs for a losing wager on the favorite. Here are the lines for our example:
Sportsbook A had listed the Atlanta/Chicago game as:
Atlanta +170
Chicago -190
Sportsbook B had listed this offering:
Atlanta +145
Chicago –155
This provides a chance to win money in with no risk by betting the following:
At Sportsbook A you would place a wager on Atlanta at +170 in the amount of $100 to win $170. Wager #2 would be a bet at Sportsbook B on Chicago at a price of -155 in the amount of $155 to win $145. If Atlanta wins you will collect $170 from Sportsbook A and lose $155 to Sportsbook B for a profit of $15. If Chicago wins you will lose $100 to Sportsbook A and win $100 from Sportsbook B for a break even result.
In order to win this bet you will need to have an underdog win if you are betting an equal amount. However, let’s say you like Chicago in this game and you want to bet them. Let’s see how we can use these line differentials to our advantage.
Let’s assume that my normal wager is $50/unit. If I wanted to bet Chicago and I was a diligent line shopper I would bet at Sportsbook B and would have to lay $77.50 to win $50. However, if I want to use these line differences I can decrease my risk. The 1st bet we will make is to bet $100 at Sportsbook A on Atlanta to win $170.
Our 2nd wager will be at Sportsbook B on Chicago in the amount of $232.50 to win $150. If Chicago wins we will lose $100 to Sportsbook A and collect $150 from Sportsbook B for a net win of $50. If Atlanta wins we will collect $170 from Sportsbook A and lose $232.50 to Sportsbook B for a net loss of $62.50.
What we have done is lower our intial risk to where we are risking $62.50 to win $50 at a price of -124. This allows us to play the favorite at a reduced price.
This process is also commonly known as arbitrage.

**austin** · 07-23-13, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by touchback

I would not waste a whole lot of time with trying to get money out of an F rated service... you need to move the balance out. The most efficient way though is to have quite a few funded outs to line shop or it can be difficult to get the lines you need with only a couple places...The basic concept of a scalp is to find an underdog that will pay off a higher amount than the price it costs for a losing wager on the favorite. Here are the lines for our example:
Sportsbook A had listed the Atlanta/Chicago game as:
Atlanta +170
Chicago -190
Sportsbook B had listed this offering:
Atlanta +145
Chicago –155
This provides a chance to win money in with no risk by betting the following:
At Sportsbook A you would place a wager on Atlanta at +170 in the amount of $100 to win $170. Wager #2 would be a bet at Sportsbook B on Chicago at a price of -155 in the amount of $155 to win $145. If Atlanta wins you will collect $170 from Sportsbook A and lose $155 to Sportsbook B for a profit of $15. If Chicago wins you will lose $100 to Sportsbook A and win $100 from Sportsbook B for a break even result.
In order to win this bet you will need to have an underdog win if you are betting an equal amount. However, let’s say you like Chicago in this game and you want to bet them. Let’s see how we can use these line differentials to our advantage.
Let’s assume that my normal wager is $50/unit. If I wanted to bet Chicago and I was a diligent line shopper I would bet at Sportsbook B and would have to lay $77.50 to win $50. However, if I want to use these line differences I can decrease my risk. The 1st bet we will make is to bet $100 at Sportsbook A on Atlanta to win $170.
Our 2nd wager will be at Sportsbook B on Chicago in the amount of $232.50 to win $150. If Chicago wins we will lose $100 to Sportsbook A and collect $150 from Sportsbook B for a net win of $50. If Atlanta wins we will collect $170 from Sportsbook A and lose $232.50 to Sportsbook B for a net loss of $62.50.
What we have done is lower our intial risk to where we are risking $62.50 to win $50 at a price of -124. This allows us to play the favorite at a reduced price.
This process is also commonly known as arbitrage.

^ this is stupid advice and should never be followed as you might end up with more/all money stuck in an F rated service

**davidchong** · 07-23-13, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by austin

^ this is stupid advice and should never be followed as you might end up with more/all money stuck in an F rated service

not always.... its a 50-50

**timbaland99** · 07-23-13, 05:20 PM

If you have more than one book then I think I can help. If you like the blue jays tonight, bet the dodgers at your f rated book and bet the bluejays at your second book (5 dimes, Pinny,Bet365 etc). If the jays win, you no longer have a balance at the f book and you have successfully "transferred" your money to your second book. If the dodgers happen to win or whatever team you bet on at the f book happens to win then repeat this process until you have a $0 balance at the f book. This may take a couple days as you may not win the wager you want to win at your good book right away. Rinse and repeat

**touchback** · 07-23-13, 05:21 PM

Austin... the OP specifically asked how to move his balance over to his A sportsbook with minimal loss... and no one is going to do a book to book transfer with an F rated service so that leaves only one option that I can see which is scalp/arb. So what would you suggest Austin... I cannot think of another way to move that balance out??

**goombah** · 07-23-13, 07:41 PM

What is the purpose of scalping/arbing an F rated service, your not going to get paid anyway. And if the scalps and arbs go against you, your pissing good money after bad.

**goombah** · 07-23-13, 07:46 PM

Tennis pro, I have 1.7k stuck in a D shop. What can you do for me?

**Dunhill** · 07-23-13, 09:46 PM

Really guys... you're advising somebody to scalp/arb bets with an F rated book? What if he ends up like that guy that tried it with oddsmaker and ran up his balance from 12k to 45k and lost his entire life savings with arbing? If you can't get the money out, just try to forget about it... don't risk losing a lot more of your time and money with stupid bets.
Putting real money (the ones in your A sportsbook) at risk against monopoly money (the ones in your f book account) isn't really the smartest thing you could do.

But if you're still thinking about it, read this story first:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/oddsmaker-sportsbook-stiffs-player-45-000-5232/

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 01:13 AM

Originally posted by Dunhill

Really guys... you're advising somebody to scalp/arb bets with an F rated book? What if he ends up like that guy that tried it with oddsmaker and ran up his balance from 12k to 45k and lost his entire life savings with arbing? If you can't get the money out, just try to forget about it... don't risk losing a lot more of your time and money with stupid bets.
Putting real money (the ones in your A sportsbook) at risk against monopoly money (the ones in your f book account) isn't really the smartest thing you could do.

But if you're still thinking about it, read this story first:
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-...r-45-000-5232/

My suggestion was assuming that he did not deposit a lot of money at this f book. Something like $200 or less.

What is your suggestion? Forget about the money and take it as a lesson learned?

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 01:21 AM

Its very difficult to win every huge underdog you place a bet on. So if he make mlb wagers and uses book f for underdog bets and book A for favorite bets, I doubt that he would go on something like a 10-0 streak, winning all his bets he placed with book f. The link you provided is an extreme example and is not likely to happen. Who knows, maybe someone will buy his balance at .50 cents on the dollar and all this will be a moot point.

**horja1** · 07-24-13, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by davidchong

not always.... its a 50-50

so there is a 50% chance that you'lll end up having more money at the F book, when in fact you want to get money out of there

**horja1** · 07-24-13, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by timbaland99

If you have more than one book then I think I can help. If you like the blue jays tonight, bet the dodgers at your f rated book and bet the bluejays at your second book (5 dimes, Pinny,Bet365 etc). If the jays win, you no longer have a balance at the f book and you have successfully "transferred" your money to your second book. If the dodgers happen to win or whatever team you bet on at the f book happens to win then repeat this process until you have a $0 balance at the f book. This may take a couple days as you may not win the wager you want to win at your good book right away. Rinse and repeat

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by horja1

What don't you like about it? This way is probably the fastest way to get his money out if he doesnt want to just forget about it and if its not a large sum of money

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 02:20 AM

Originally posted by horja1

Does it make you feel good to piss all over an idea without providing a suggestion of your own? Good luck buddy

**TennisProFrance** · 07-24-13, 03:24 AM

Originally posted by goombah

Tennis pro, I have 1.7k stuck in a D shop. What can you do for me?

Hi, The value is too small for me to do much, it would cost to much and you wouldn't end up with much more than $500. Sorry. Anything over 4-5k+ is viable but below just isn't in either of our interests.

**TennisProFrance** · 07-24-13, 03:25 AM

I would not advise the method described, it's far too much of a gamble and you could end up like this poor guy: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-...r-45-000-5232/

**Dunhill** · 07-24-13, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by timbaland99

My suggestion was assuming that he did not deposit a lot of money at this f book. Something like $200 or less.

What is your suggestion? Forget about the money and take it as a lesson learned?

Still, I fail to see the logic of backing real money bets at A sportsbooks with monopoly money at the F rated book. Why couldn't he just make normal bets at the A sportsbook if he can't withdraw from the F one?

He could give some action to the F book and after that, if it's a small sum, he could try to take the money out. I assume that even the F rated sportsbook pay out from time to time. If he withdraws right after he deposited without any action, it's unlikely that that book is gonna be happy about it and his chances of getting the money will be even slimmer.

**goombah** · 07-24-13, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Dunhill

Still, I fail to see the logic of backing real money bets at A sportsbooks with monopoly money at the F rated book. Why couldn't he just make normal bets at the A sportsbook if he can't withdraw from the F one?

He could give some action to the F book and after that, if it's a small sum, he could try to take the money out. I assume that even the F rated sportsbook pay out from time to time. If he withdraws right after he deposited without any action, it's unlikely that that book is gonna be happy about it and his chances of getting the money will be even slimmer.

This is what I would do as well. Best bet is to try to make a small percentage of your balance and make a withdrawel attempt and make it appear to the book you have no clue that theya re an F shop and hope they think that you are there for long term so they pay you out a little. Month or two later call them up and tell them you need money for some emergency and beg them to send you a little more.

**the_situation** · 07-24-13, 01:36 PM

LOL @ anyone who is advising to arb against an F rated book. You should stop wagering now because you are clueless.

**the_situation** · 07-24-13, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by timbaland99

What don't you like about it? This way is probably the fastest way to get his money out if he doesnt want to just forget about it and if its not a large sum of money

I am laughing hard right now. Thanks for making my day lol. What don't you understand about why this is completely dumb? Money in an F rated book is basically monopoly money. Therefore, it is worth nothing.

**horja1** · 07-24-13, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by timbaland99

Does it make you feel good to piss all over an idea without providing a suggestion of your own? Good luck buddy

sorry but where you see an idea I only see nonsense

**the_situation** · 07-24-13, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by horja1

so there is a 50% chance that you'lll end up having more money at the F book, when in fact you want to get money out of there

I am dumbfounded how people fail to understand this lol.

**the_situation** · 07-24-13, 01:42 PM

The ONLY option available is to move on, learn from it, and don't make the same mistake again. All these F rated books lure people in with crazy bonuses. If it's too good to be true, it usually is.

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by the_situation

I am laughing hard right now. Thanks for making my day lol. What don't you understand about why this is completely dumb? Money in an F rated book is basically monopoly money. Therefore, it is worth nothing.

Your absolutely right. Money in an F book is worth nothing. Im glad I made your day

I didnt think he had a lot in the f book and I was doubting that he would go on a massive heater and not be able to zero out the bad account

**timbaland99** · 07-24-13, 02:55 PM

My idea was probably not the greatest as mentioned above, 50-50 chance of things going bad. Not good odds