So I am new here and very new to online gambling. Just wanted to have a little fun, ya know. After a little research (obviously not enough) I decided to deposit my little amount of money in 5dimes. I have played BJ 98% of the time. I play the classic 1 deck option. Being a newbie, perhaps, I am mistaken but I took that to mean that we were using 1 deck the whole time. Well, after a few suspicious plays I started to keep track of the cards being played and unless the 1 deck option means that they shuffle the deck after every hand 5dimes was cheating. The exact same cards would be used repeatedly sometimes in the hand directly after. For example, the 3 of spades was played 3 times within a 6 hand stretch. So, am I mistaken in what I think a 1 deck option means or have I been cheated?
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you were cheatedComment -
single deck is still shuffled after each hand so they aren't getting you that way. However your intuition to be suspicious is justified. IMO just avoid online casinos entirely. You will be cheated. 5dimes is a decent book though.Comment -
How were you cheated ??!!??
Obviously, single deck means single deck used in the shoe - and you are going to get a "fresh" shoe every deal online in a virtual casino.
If you werent getting a "fresh" shoe each time - how would you know how many cards remained in the deck before each hand ? This should have been obvious to you after the 2nd hand started.
Words like "cheat" "fraud" or "theft" are serious accusations. I understand you are new, but please THINK before posting such accusations. You are new and dont know - this does not mean you have a serious complaint, rather you are making blind accusations after losing because you do not know the rules of a game - READ before you spend your small amount of money and you'll have more money next time.Comment -
Lol calm down there dj. The entire post was written in a questioning manner. In fact, a question mark is in the title. Perhaps you should READ before making silly replies. Thanks to everyone else for being civil and helping me out.Comment -
All online blackjack is the same cheating, stealing crap that it is. It is a program designed specifically to take your money, period. It's a joke. What's with the jab at the guy by saying "spend your small amount of money"? How do you know how much he spends on the BJ table? You don't. You're just the typical douchebag on here that thinks he knows everything and brags about huge amounts they wager, while you really sit in mommy's basement playing 5 cent video poker hands.Last edited by Bandito97; 05-19-13, 05:56 PM.Comment -
I only play casino games when theres a bonus available and reasonable. I will do exactly what basic strategy tells me to do because I dont understand the game well enough.
This is a bonus casino, not my own money, most recently I'm up 1800 about 18/24k into a rollover, following basic strategy I lose that in 4k of play. Just saying it seems rather unlikely that I would lose that much that quick following basic strategy. It wasn't real money so I don't really care. But that came across very rigged to me.Comment -
I'm 100 percent certain all online casinos are scams.
When I say scam, I mean that the odds aren't the same as they would be a in a real Vegas casino. You lose at a much higher rate.
If you don't believe me, continue to play and you'll become a believer. Basic strategy doesn't apply. It's pre-determined what hands you're going to win and what hands you're going to lose.
I'm pretty sure the software recognizes when you up your bet as well so you will lose those at an even higher rate. Again, don't believe, keep playing...Comment -
I just played there and lost $500. penetrating incredible. The dealer had 20 after 20 after 20. Forget about the amount of times he gets 21. What are the odds of the dealer having so many 20s and drawing on 12 and never going bust. You can't feel safe. Even when I had a 20 I was nervous and then sure enough the motherfukker would keep pulling out cards till he got a 21. I never play blacjack in real casinos but is it as rigged in real life as it is online?
Also someone needs to get a hold of the software these places use and decode it to figure out what we all suspect.
There is no way the card facing down has an assigned value until you make your move. Once you make your move then the casino assigns it a value so they can get whatever they need to win.Comment -
alot of people have reported on live casino online losing alost every hand when betting $100 plus a hand and even witnessing it with others. I won't touch it again, i will play the regular software of the sportsbook/casino. I lost 9 $100 hands in a row on baccarat and three times I had 8 and pulled 9. I'm saying i couldn't just have had a lousy streak but my gut feeeling tells this is not the case.Comment -
Online blackjack is NOT to be played. Unless its just for a few hands or something. Impossible to make money at long termComment -
You're 100% correct. In a real casino, if you play basic strategy (by the book or the mathmatically correct way to play) you'll win about 48% of the time. Odds vary depending on house odds. Example. Dealers hits vs stands on soft 17, blackjack pays 3:2 instead of 6:5, etc.
Point being, the house edge should be around 2%.
With this online crap, I'm pretty sure it's closer to like 30-40%. You're not playing real blackjack. You're playing against a damn computer program that they can program however they want and it's not regulated.
They can literally program their software to win at a higher rate based on your bet amounts, etc.
Their "down" card isn't determined by the program until after you have played your hand. Basically, it's pre-determined regardless of how you play and when you up your bet, you're probably more likely to lose.
I also laugh my ass off at the "live" blackjack dealers they use to make people think it's legit. Sure there is a real person there acting like they are dealing, they'll even talk and chat with you. With that said, they aren't dealing real cards. The cards are still computer generated. Just look at them. The cards don't even look real.
Online casino's are a scam. All of them.
The Sportsbook at 5dimes is good though.Comment -
I lost about a quarter of what I started with playing BJ. After posting here I used the remainder in a series of sports bets. I was 4-2 on my picks and made back my initial investment plus a little extra. Glad I listened to the advice I have seen given numerous times on this website: stay away from online casinos. And I offer the same advice to anyone else new to this scene...Comment -
see belowComment -
"All online blackjack is the same cheating, stealing crap that it is. It is a program designed specifically to take your money, period. It's a joke. What's with the jab at the guy by saying "spend your small amount of money"? How do you know how much he spends on the BJ table? You don't. You're just the typical douchebag on here that thinks he knows everything and brags about huge amounts they wager, while you really sit in mommy's basement playing 5 cent video poker hands."
Who the hell are you to site around and make comments such as this ??
So all online games are rigged to the house having an unfair advantage...I dont recall saying anything to the contrary here - only that the cards will used again and again, as the deck would be theoretically "re-shuffled" with each hand - as otherwise the ability to place large wagers knowing there is a clear advantage to the player/house if cards remained in play more than 3 hands.
As to the comment of sitting playing 5 cent VP - please point me in the direction of ANY post I have made regarding my wager size. I dont claim to be the largest bettor here - but I am sure as hell a sharper poster and gambler than you should ever hope to be. Welcome to SBR, now get a clue or get out.Comment -
Never play any online BJ, the lure of fast money will be your demise, every hand is shuffled after being dealt so it is highly disadvantage to you. Your best bet is to play the teams, just be patient, this is the long road and you need to reserve your energy, you sprint too fast and eventually you will run out of breath and tumble. This book is the A+ rating which is deserves, they pay fast, less than a week, much better than your regular job. Study the teams more than bible thumpers who go to church more than twice a week and you will be rewarded.Comment -
Guaranteed they cheat and get away with it. Its outrageous.Comment -
house edge should only be .5, yes?Comment -
Who the hell are you to site around and make comments such as this ??
it's none of your business who i am and i'm qualified enough to know an a**hole when i read what one says. Now undo my zipper, have your favorite snack waiting for you.Comment -
This is actually fairly actually accurate in Bigdo OP if not worse with an online casino, specifically referring too just a computer RNG game. All depends on what the RCG (Random Card Generator) is programmed to deal in relation to the RNG (Random Number Generator)... Fact, almost all online casinos have a hold percentage of between 85% and 90% programmed into the RNG. Live play is a slightly different animal and there are many ways to skew the odds in favor of the house which I am not about to even try to get into...Comment -
So u gotta be a real junkie to continue to play rigged games. Kinda like the folks who play scratch off lotto tickets. Seems like one in the same to me.Comment -
Agreed..never got the attraction of online casinos. If they are giving you a huge bonus on a game with a natural 4% house edge..common sense tells you the player is advantaged even with a RO...this cannot last.
As to scratch-offs, I get why some people play them..its cheap, readily available entertainment and requires no skill and is easy to play. Now, the "professional" players as I like to call them-different story. I remember a guy who played 900 a session at these..would buy 20 at a time and go down up to 900-sometimes he would be up 200-300, yet hammer away looking for the big winner. 1 time he hit decent (10k), but I know he had last 10x that with me the prior 6 months.
I guess its just the addiction for these 1% of players..but I will never forget what he told me once...asked why not play sports, offered to set him up with an account..looked at me very seriously and said "what, you must be fvcking crazy...that stuffs all rigged and way to easy to lose your ass at it by getting hooked". Yea...I was the crazy one.Comment -
I guess its just the addiction for these 1% of players..but I will never forget what he told me once...asked why not play sports, offered to set him up with an account..looked at me very seriously and said "what, you must be fvcking crazy...that stuffs all rigged and way to easy to lose your ass at it by getting hooked". Yea...I was the crazy one.[/QUOTE]
Ya, we are the crazy ones...
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