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  • yisman
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-01-08
    • 75682

    #771
    Originally posted by fitguy67
    BTW, there's nothing wrong with their odds per se (pretty-well all books start with the same opener-set and diverge from their as their differing supply-demand and risk-exposure situations kick in)...as long as WW adheres to a reasonable and consistently-applied vig-structure (eg. 20 cents to 140, 15 cents to 180...etc. etc..) and it appears that they do...
    I think it would be 25 or 30 cents to 180, no?

    This lack of providing feeds is really frustrating for me.

    If I bet at a book, I want to be able to compare prices without having to log in constantly.
    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
    [/quote]

    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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    • raydog
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-07-07
      • 6984

      #772
      the rx forum runs a similar delayed sportsoptions odds page with WW on it...so i wouldnt think its that big of a deal for sbr to add them
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      • gamblingshark1
        SBR Rookie
        • 04-22-13
        • 35

        #773
        Happily got credited the missing 2500.00 into the ww acct. and have easily completed 1/3 of a 20000 rollover in 4 days and winning 1000 more into the account. Estimation of one more week of action and updating then how the payout process goes. Reiterating that ive never had any payout issues here.
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        • mikefromsd
          SBR High Roller
          • 10-06-12
          • 169

          #774
          Rollover at WW is calculated based on the lower figure for risk vs. win. Is this the norm for most books?

          Anyways, I was credited by WW for a pending $1,000 payout. No problem doing so. Customer service was friendly.
          WW clearly has a better website than Legends did, with better wagering options.

          I got a long way to go to meet the rollover, but I'll be focusing on maintaining or increasing my bankroll more than anything else.
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          • MBENZ
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-07-07
            • 5238

            #775
            Is anybody getting close to hitting this rollover?If so the payout expierience would be greatly appreciated.
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            • fitguy67
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-13-11
              • 5082

              #776
              Originally posted by mikefromsd
              Rollover at WW is calculated based on the lower figure for risk vs. win. Is this the norm for most books?

              Anyways, I was credited by WW for a pending $1,000 payout. No problem doing so. Customer service was friendly.
              WW clearly has a better website than Legends did, with better wagering options.

              I got a long way to go to meet the rollover, but I'll be focusing on maintaining or increasing my bankroll more than anything else.
              That is the correct attitude, bro. Patiently putting on plays only if/when the "price is right"...not "taking whatever price they have on the game i want...to help clear the damn rollover". Helps if you have AT LEAST one other book, so you have another "out" available if WW price not what you really should insist on.
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              • fitguy67
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-13-11
                • 5082

                #777
                Originally posted by mikefromsd
                Rollover at WW is calculated based on the lower figure for risk vs. win. Is this the norm for most books?

                yeah it is the norm for US-focused books. only exception i know of now is LooseLines which is "risk" amount for all bets except faves -200 or higher...then it switches to the "to win" <ie. smaller="">amount

                funnily enough, Legends WAS also an exception to this, counting rollover by "risk" amount [which, incidentally, is the norm for non-US focused books]</ie.>
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                • the_orangekat
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-08-07
                  • 1267

                  #778
                  This is gambling for you, never risk anything you can't afford to lose. I've had multiple locals stiff me before, why would off-shore be any different trusting people miles away in other countries when you think about it? Atleast hope is not lost, 2X rollover is not tough. Make the rollover and take your money out.
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                  • RonPaul2008
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 06-08-07
                    • 6741

                    #779
                    Originally posted by the_orangekat
                    This is gambling for you, never risk anything you can't afford to lose. I've had multiple locals stiff me before, why would off-shore be any different trusting people miles away in other countries when you think about it? Atleast hope is not lost, 2X rollover is not tough. Make the rollover and take your money out.
                    5x rollover
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                    • touchback
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-08-12
                      • 1227

                      #780
                      Originally posted by adamg30
                      Cheers
                      Nothing personal Adam... But hey, is it just me or does everyone else around here feel like throwing up now when they see the word CHEERS.
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                      • robmpink
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-09-07
                        • 13205

                        #781
                        Originally posted by adamg30
                        Cheers
                        Jon, is that you?
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                        • ChewFu
                          SBR Hustler
                          • 05-26-10
                          • 58

                          #782
                          Originally posted by robmpink
                          Does anyone have any good feedback? Or shall I say does anyone have the courage to comment on how things are going so far?
                          It's going fine in theory, although I've only made a small dent in my colossal rollover and so I may well be betting with monopoly money. Any updates from anyone else who's cleared the rollover? Been paid okay?
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                          • robmpink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-09-07
                            • 13205

                            #783
                            Originally posted by ChewFu
                            It's going fine in theory, although I've only made a small dent in my colossal rollover and so I may well be betting with monopoly money. Any updates from anyone else who's cleared the rollover? Been paid okay?
                            Well at least you are still in the game with f ball coming up. Really glad WW stepped in here to give the victims of Legends something.
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                            • acarmelo1
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-29-09
                              • 6321

                              #784
                              Originally posted by robmpink
                              Well at least you are still in the game with f ball coming up. Really glad WW stepped in here to give the victims of Legends something.
                              Not Victims of Legends. Legends Owner and CEO is Still behind bars, you can thank the US govermenet for the end of Legends, and for what happened to your funds.
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                              • robmpink
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-09-07
                                • 13205

                                #785
                                Originally posted by acarmelo1
                                Not Victims of Legends. Legends Owner and CEO is Still behind bars, you can thank the US govermenet for the end of Legends, and for what happened to your funds.
                                Possibly it was the owners actions that drew the us government to take such interest. I don't know the summary details, but still say they were victims.
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                                • ChewFu
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 05-26-10
                                  • 58

                                  #786
                                  Originally posted by robmpink
                                  Well at least you are still in the game with f ball coming up. Really glad WW stepped in here to give the victims of Legends something.
                                  That's the thing, though. I've no idea if I am still in the game. I've no idea if they're paying. So if they're just booking the bets of losers and planning to stiff winners, what's the point? I'm not saying that this is happening and maybe I haven't done enough reading around, but to herald Wagerweb as "stepping up" seems a bit generous, given that all I've read to date is that a C- book has assumed balances and imposed a pretty Draconian rollover on its new customers.
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                                  • robmpink
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-09-07
                                    • 13205

                                    #787
                                    Originally posted by ChewFu
                                    That's the thing, though. I've no idea if I am still in the game. I've no idea if they're paying. So if they're just booking the bets of losers and planning to stiff winners, what's the point? I'm not saying that this is happening and maybe I haven't done enough reading around, but to herald Wagerweb as "stepping up" seems a bit generous, given that all I've read to date is that a C- book has assumed balances and imposed a pretty Draconian rollover on its new customers.

                                    Chew, approach it as you like. It is your money, play money or whatever you feel it is. They did step up and assumed the balances and lowered the rollover from 10 to 5. The Betislands folks didn't have any chance.
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                                    • Hankwins
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-17-10
                                      • 2232

                                      #788
                                      ROB, any luck at WW lately, I have made three deposits and the dealer killed me on BJ, increased the bet to $50 and they hit 6 blackjacks in a row. I am going to decline a bonus next time and just use them as a shop for sameday payouts.
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                                      • touchback
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-08-12
                                        • 1227

                                        #789
                                        Originally posted by acarmelo1
                                        Not Victims of Legends. Legends Owner and CEO is Still behind bars, you can thank the US govermenet for the end of Legends, and for what happened to your funds.
                                        No he is not, judge reversed the order and he is at home.... I see fall guy coming.
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                                        • touchback
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-08-12
                                          • 1227

                                          #790
                                          Originally posted by robmpink
                                          Chew, approach it as you like. It is your money, play money or whatever you feel it is. They did step up and assumed the balances and lowered the rollover from 10 to 5. The Betislands folks didn't have any chance.
                                          Man.... they dropped the 10x rollover requirement to a 5x rollover requirement. WW stepped up for whatever reason and guys got bailed out... can anyone just say thanks around? ( It was posted how to bang a large chuck of this rollover out using the casino and a specific game, does not anyone pay attention)
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                                          • mikefromsd
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 10-06-12
                                            • 169

                                            #791
                                            I'll be reaching my 5X rollover in the next couple of days. My question...Will I need to resubmit any paperwork to wagerweb (copy of CC, license, etc...?)

                                            I had already sent all of this info over to Legends prior to their collapse, so I'm wondering if it was forwarded over to WW.
                                            thanks in advance.
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                                            • teaz2win
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 02-12-13
                                              • 98

                                              #792
                                              Originally posted by mikefromsd
                                              I'll be reaching my 5X rollover in the next couple of days. My question...Will I need to resubmit any paperwork to wagerweb (copy of CC, license, etc...?)

                                              I had already sent all of this info over to Legends prior to their collapse, so I'm wondering if it was forwarded over to WW.
                                              thanks in advance.
                                              Mike if this was a legends balance transfer and you didnt deposit with CC then I don't think you need to send anything. The only hiccup I had was they had my old address. You might want to call them or send them an email to make sure about the address.
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                                              • mikefromsd
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 10-06-12
                                                • 169

                                                #793
                                                Cool. Thanks.
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                                                • Peeig
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 02-06-08
                                                  • 567

                                                  #794
                                                  Originally posted by fitguy67
                                                  they--just like BetRev--have a business model centred on attracting peoples's $ with the lure of large $-matching &/or free-play bonuses...which lock the player into large ROR...then holding the player "captive" to their (generally-crappy vs. 10-cent books like 5dimes) lines...
                                                  BetRev's business model also involves stealing.
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                                                  • rcene
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-28-12
                                                    • 3036

                                                    #795
                                                    The whole process has been a fukkkkin mess
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                                                    • mikefromsd
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 10-06-12
                                                      • 169

                                                      #796
                                                      I finally reached the 5x rollover and submitted a payout request to WW last friday. Received a confirmation phone call today advising me that payment is approved, but it will take about 60 days to arrive.

                                                      I'm not in a big hurry to get paid, but damn 60 days is fukkin slow as shit.
                                                      Last edited by SBR Staff; 06-17-13, 06:57 PM.
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                                                      • ChewFu
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 05-26-10
                                                        • 58

                                                        #797
                                                        Originally posted by touchback
                                                        Man.... they dropped the 10x rollover requirement to a 5x rollover requirement. WW stepped up for whatever reason and guys got bailed out... can anyone just say thanks around? ( It was posted how to bang a large chuck of this rollover out using the casino and a specific game, does not anyone pay attention)
                                                        I'll say thanks if and when I get paid (assuming I don't bust the cash during the rollover). In theory it's great that WW stepped up and assumed balances etc, but I'll reiterate: if WW isn't paying, there's no thanks to be given.
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                                                        • teaz2win
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 02-12-13
                                                          • 98

                                                          #798
                                                          Originally posted by mikefromsd
                                                          I finally reached the 5x rollover and submitted a payout request to WW last friday. Received a confirmation phone call today advising me that payment is approved, but it will take about 60 days to arrive.

                                                          I'm not in a big hurry to get paid, but damn 60 days is fukkin slow as shit.

                                                          Says it on the website man. Did they take the money out immediately or did they leave it in there like other books so you can lose it?
                                                          Last edited by SBR Staff; 06-17-13, 06:57 PM.
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                                                          • ChewFu
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 05-26-10
                                                            • 58

                                                            #799
                                                            Question on behalf of a friend without an SBR account: she has done some wagering in the casino and CS has told her that the risk/win rule applies to casino as well as sportsbook - I've never bothered with casinos at US books so have no idea if this is true or not - is this standard protocol for US casinos? i.e. Bet £5, win £3, only £3 counts to the wagering?

                                                            TIA

                                                            Just to add: wouldn't this create a situation where if you bet £20 on red, and black spins in, this counts for £0 to the wagering, as this is the lower figure?
                                                            Last edited by ChewFu; 06-26-13, 04:55 PM. Reason: Additional Info
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                                                            • robmpink
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 01-09-07
                                                              • 13205

                                                              #800
                                                              Originally posted by Hankwins
                                                              ROB, any luck at WW lately, I have made three deposits and the dealer killed me on BJ, increased the bet to $50 and they hit 6 blackjacks in a row. I am going to decline a bonus next time and just use them as a shop for sameday payouts.
                                                              I've been getting crushed of late. Three times I had my balance to about 3-4k during this time, but wasn't able to hit my big bets or catch a monster hand.
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                                                              • robmpink
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-09-07
                                                                • 13205

                                                                #801
                                                                Originally posted by mikefromsd
                                                                I finally reached the 5x rollover and submitted a payout request to WW last friday. Received a confirmation phone call today advising me that payment is approved, but it will take about 60 days to arrive.

                                                                I'm not in a big hurry to get paid, but damn 60 days is fukkin slow as shit.


                                                                Glad you rolled it over. Yeah I agree that is a long time.You could have picked up 4 dimes in a week but would have $400 in fees. No one could fault them for having slow p2p payouts.
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                                                                • robmpink
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-09-07
                                                                  • 13205

                                                                  #802
                                                                  Originally posted by teaz2win
                                                                  Says it on the website man. Did they take the money out immediately or did they leave it in there like other books so you can lose it?
                                                                  Teaz, they take the money out when you request the payout during normal withdrawl hours. So it may take 60 days to arrive, but the money is out that day. If you request it off hours, it will sit there until it is processed the next business day.
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                                                                  • robmpink
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-09-07
                                                                    • 13205

                                                                    #803
                                                                    Originally posted by ChewFu
                                                                    Question on behalf of a friend without an SBR account: she has done some wagering in the casino and CS has told her that the risk/win rule applies to casino as well as sportsbook - I've never bothered with casinos at US books so have no idea if this is true or not - is this standard protocol for US casinos? i.e. Bet £5, win £3, only £3 counts to the wagering?

                                                                    TIA

                                                                    Just to add: wouldn't this create a situation where if you bet £20 on red, and black spins in, this counts for £0 to the wagering, as this is the lower figure?
                                                                    I'm not sure how to answer this. I believe that cenitar fellow said this is how they handle casino play. I'm not sure how other books handle it. I never bothered to find out since I don't make these types of casino bets.
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                                                                    • RonPaul2008
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 06-08-07
                                                                      • 6741

                                                                      #804
                                                                      Originally posted by teaz2win
                                                                      Mike if this was a legends balance transfer and you didnt deposit with CC then I don't think you need to send anything. The only hiccup I had was they had my old address. You might want to call them or send them an email to make sure about the address.
                                                                      They had the last address that you provided to Legends on file?
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                                                                      • Legions36
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-17-10
                                                                        • 3032

                                                                        #805
                                                                        Hey is it just me or is this for others? I can't save my user name in my browser no matter which browser i use firefox or chrome.
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