The Greek has closed account due to line error!

**FreeFall** · 03-15-13, 01:45 PM

Don't worry about your english around here. We have posters who were born and raised speaking english that still can't type as well as you have here!

As for your story that's a bummer. If you're a sharp player my guess is they also saw previous behavior from your last 5 years to make them want to second guess your account. This bet might've been what they needed to classify your account as sharp.

**filipinho** · 03-15-13, 01:54 PM

Yeah, I guess it was not your first palp...10x higher price than supposed to?He isnt sharp player, sharps dont do that.

**MIG-29** · 03-15-13, 02:06 PM

yep, this foolish bet of mine was probably what they wanted for a long time - to kick me away ... ok, nothing to do but accept the situation, though i had high opinion of Greek. But not now

Originally posted by filipinho

Yeah, I guess it was not your first palp...10x higher price than supposed to?He isnt sharp player, sharps dont do that.

push/cancel the bet is ordinary situation for that... but not to close account! that's ridiculous

**Art Vandeleigh** · 03-15-13, 02:10 PM

Idk, imagine going to a store and seeing something that should be priced $50 and instead the price tag reads $5. If you bring it to the cashier and try to buy it, they'd probably laugh at you, not ban you forever from the store. Overdone, overly dramatic.

**indio** · 03-15-13, 02:16 PM

So you tried to rip them off, and you're complaining because they had the "audacity" to kick you out? I'm laying 1/5 you didn't just make a novelty wager on this and failed to notice, I'm fairly sure you max wagered this and looked for more helpings. Just reinforces my theory, anyone who would have an image of a genocidal maniac and wretched piece of trash like Lenin as their avatar is almost always a sleazeball.

**Kaabee** · 03-15-13, 02:34 PM

obviously this depends on past history. for example: if it's his first hockey prop ever, and it's max bet then a boot is in order.

**raydog** · 03-15-13, 03:11 PM

how many times have you tried to fukk the greek by hitting bad lines? if its more than 3 or so in that 5 year span, i dont blame them a single bit for closing your acct.... stop trying to cheat books when you know there is an obvious error.

**Thremp** · 03-15-13, 03:15 PM

This is reasonable. Bookies can close accounts at any time and angle shooting is a totally reasonable reason.

**Emily_Haines** · 03-15-13, 03:46 PM

I don't know why people waste time betting the gross line errors, its not like they actually are go to let the bet stand. Then to top it all off you probably bet the max or entire account balance.

**MIG-29** · 03-15-13, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandeleigh

Idk, imagine going to a store and seeing something that should be priced $50 and instead the price tag reads $5. If you bring it to the cashier and try to buy it, they'd probably laugh at you, not ban you forever from the store.

that's it!

indio, avatar is just for fun, it's beside the point ....
10-years of betting experience definitely suggest me that i haven't done nothing criminal to be treated like a cheater. There were some similar situations, including at The Greek, something like:

Your stake has been refunded: misprint in the Line

Tomorrow bookie was in bad mood and misprint in the Line led to ban. So why rules for?
ok, thanks for comments, but i still assured in injustice. Live and learn, thats all i can say.

**John Dough** · 03-15-13, 03:57 PM

It was a bit harsh, but you shouldn't try to steal from books by betting into obvious bad lines. You don't want them to try to steal from you.

You did try to cheat them. Hopefully lesson learned.

**Fall778899** · 03-15-13, 04:11 PM

Here's a thought... DON'T F$CK UP THE LINES !! I don't care how many lines you put out if the player catches it before the book too bad. I'm in this to make money, the book wants my money, all's fair in love and war !

**MIG-29** · 03-15-13, 04:47 PM

ok, guyz, you make me convinced a bit ..... however, that lesson costs me account. I'm ready to admit my fault in exchange for bringing account back

.... actually, really disappointed about loss of it in such a silly way... DAMN! I'm not that one who brings money to bookies so they were gladly kick my but ....

**rwd201** · 03-15-13, 04:54 PM

you you make a mistake cant take it back or change it
they make a mistake and you get baned
seems about right

**bobbywaves** · 03-15-13, 05:53 PM

Did Greek advise you before or after results? If after, then Greek took a free shot at you. If you lose wager, they keep your $. If you win, they delete wager & close your account. No win situation for player. What about the line errors that are not as obvious? It's not the players responsibility to do research & check if line is fair & comprable to other sportsbooks. Book hangs a bad line they need to take responsibility, instead of taking free shots at players.

**MIG-29** · 03-15-13, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by bobbywaves

Did Greek advise you before or after results?

before

I think it doesn't matter. They just were searching at any kind of my lapse, because i don't bring them money for a long time. And when i "swallowed" their error line .... bingo! they caught me at last! with long-expected pleasure .... No more losing money for Greek, in spite of losing some reputation.

**Stumpage** · 03-15-13, 08:22 PM

Can't quite understand why you would have bet on the line in the first place.....Better option might have been to alert them to the mistake. Often times books will spring you a free play for informing them; Not all the time, but it's certainly happened many times in my experience over the years, though I can't recall if it ever happened with Greek.....

**caveira** · 03-15-13, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by Art Vandeleigh

Idk, imagine going to a store and seeing something that should be priced $50 and instead the price tag reads $5. If you bring it to the cashier and try to buy it, they'd probably laugh at you, not ban you forever from the store. Overdone, overly dramatic.

Good point, they should just void your bet if this is the first time it happened.

**Scorpion** · 03-17-13, 04:05 PM

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**rangerz2478** · 03-17-13, 06:24 PM

The fact that that is such an OBVIOUS line error, I can't blame thegreek one bit. Gotta be smarter than that.

**dealer wins** · 03-17-13, 06:35 PM

LOL, scammer gets owned and is upset about it!!!

**kiwi** · 03-18-13, 07:21 PM

Even if you all think it is normal that bookies can void wrong lines after they made a mistake (and of course I know they will do that, that's not the question) or even ban players who tried to exploit these lines I always did and always will disagree! If a player accidentally plays a wrong bet he nearly never find a fair bookie who let him cancel this bet. Why should a bookmaker have the right to void bets instead to say "Ok, I made this line error and now I have to pay fot it."? And if one compares a bookmaker with a shop, then think about that of course if one bought something in a shop one still has the right to bring it back again and get the money back for some days. A bookmaker though want to have the right to cancel own mistakes but doesn't let the bettor cancel his wrong bets. I know it is like this and I cannot change it but I really wonder why everybody seems to accept these unfair rules as completely normal and fair.

**Fall778899** · 03-18-13, 07:52 PM

It's total BS what these books get away with. If anyone with half a clue opens a book that is fair to the players it will wipe out the current books.

**BeardedTaco** · 03-19-13, 12:05 AM

should have done the total opposite and e-mail them about the bad line

**masachi** · 03-19-13, 12:30 AM

I think its unfair too.
Bookies have an own staff, who get their salary. So same situations are their liability.
At wrong case it will be only void bet. Why are bookies cant fire out,punish their sleepy inattentive staff?
Only because we are playing with them, they do a business!

**Squared Box** · 03-19-13, 07:47 AM

I would have banned your ass as well, little shot taker.

Next time take a second and think about betting obvious bad lines. How much do you think this act of greed is going to cost you? Greek is pretty unique as far as prop lines go, and you just blew the chance to bet them. Good job!

**benandjerry** · 03-19-13, 08:18 AM

I absolutely think it was wrong to bet such a bad line. That said, if it was a first time thing, it was harsh. Not completely wrong, but harsh.

Originally posted by kiwi

Even if you all think it is normal that bookies can void wrong lines after they made a mistake (and of course I know they will do that, that's not the question) or even ban players who tried to exploit these lines I always did and always will disagree! If a player accidentally plays a wrong bet he nearly never find a fair bookie who let him cancel this bet. Why should a bookmaker have the right to void bets instead to say "Ok, I made this line error and now I have to pay fot it."? And if one compares a bookmaker with a shop, then think about that of course if one bought something in a shop one still has the right to bring it back again and get the money back for some days. A bookmaker though want to have the right to cancel own mistakes but doesn't let the bettor cancel his wrong bets. I know it is like this and I cannot change it but I really wonder why everybody seems to accept these unfair rules as completely normal and fair.

I agree with you a lot. It has to go both ways. I really dont think you should bet an obvious line error, and I think such bet should be (BEFORE THE EVENT) void, but I also think if thats the case, you yourself should also be able to cancel a bet thats an obvious mistake on your end (so long as its done within minutes of being place, with no market movement). There are plenty more cases, in the event of a wrong graded wager you're required to report it often within 3 days (1 sometimes?) when its in your favor, however, some books will regrade the ones in their favor faaaar later should they detect just to mention another case where it doesnt go both ways in a fair manner. Plenty more obviously.

**noyb** · 03-19-13, 09:04 AM

Originally posted by Fall778899

It's total BS what these books get away with. If anyone with half a clue opens a book that is fair to the players it will wipe out the current books.

more likely it will be broke within 6 months.

**onemoregoal** · 03-19-13, 09:46 AM

Cancel bets by all means but to ban a player for an error on the books part inst fair. It not like the player was seeking out to screw over the book like some methods..Its entrapment. And whilst VERY likely the player knew what he was doing, a book cant guarantee that he knew the price was off and to treat him badly for it.
Mistakes happen all the time in the real world, if a bank teller gave me 100 instead of 10 and caught me, they would simply ask for the money back, have a little chuckle and that would be it. My account wouldn't be closed and I wouldn't be made to feel bad for it.

**MIG-29** · 03-22-13, 10:57 AM

thanks once again for the comments...
Now i've got difinite conclusion about this case:
1) TheGreek behaved themself like a miserable rogue. Agreement between player and bookie based on rules, and this time Greek decided to play out of rules. Betting on error line isn't player fault. Bookies make line - players bet on it, so WTF? And all the more, it isn't cause to ban.
2) Sharp players should expect something like that from bookies and should not give them any chance to find player's fault.

**lecubs28** · 03-22-13, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by MIG-29

Betting on error line isn't player fault.

what the penetrate? does anybody take responsibility for anything anymore? this is like when jon came asking for forgiveness and saying it wasn't his fault betislands after he ran the shop like an idiot

**ADR51** · 03-23-13, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Fall778899

Here's a thought... DON'T F$CK UP THE LINES !! I don't care how many lines you put out if the player catches it before the book too bad. I'm in this to make money, the book wants my money, all's fair in love and war !

Here is another thought....is way easy to pick something that is way off and just call it making money, i think you are just a dirty scumbag that tries to take advantage of whatever situation, and then calls himself a wise guy...LOL Sore loser!!!

**Maniac** · 03-23-13, 12:32 PM

Its all about cost/benefit reward for a book - the more sports/leagues/props a book offers then the more staff they need and the staff they do have will often be looking after multiple sports/leagues props and this is how mistakes occur, generally with linesmakers have a lot to keep an eye on then it is easier to make a mistake and move on to their next sport without necessarily noticing. If a book were forced to pay out on line errors then books would be faced with a dilemma:

1. They can hire more staff so that everyone has less sports/leagues/props to keep an eye on to minimise mistakes, which is of course will cost them more in wages etc.

2. They can keep the same number of staff and get rid of the lower leagues and lower turnover sports/leagues/props and just stick to offering the big sports and big leagues and markets.

When it comes to proposition bets, how much do you think a book gets in turnover on these, and how much of that turnover is purely recreational and not punters looking for mistakes, value bets and middles between them and other books ? Would this turnover be worthwhile a book hiring another member of staff just to keep closer eye on them and ensure there are no mistakes ?

**Fall778899** · 03-23-13, 01:25 PM

Hey maniac give me a break !! These poor sportsbooks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have any comprehension how much money they make ?