cw vs blackdog

[pokernut9999]

i never said they woudnt. i said i was givin false information. i will wait on sbr to rule on this. the rules are not clear, so i am not wrong.

Like I said before , written rules will always prevail over oral statements. Just because an employee said something by mistake does not mean you get to bend the rules in your favor.

Why the need to post about this instead of using their site to file a complaint, that is what it is there for. Do other books have that feature on the site ? Do not think so

[firedawg]

whatever. if they have treated you well then i am glad. i didnt even want the withdrawl this morning like i said. i was told that was my option. i wanted to continue betting on all sports. that is why i contacted the this morning

[pokernut9999]

They have treated everyone that plays there great. The ones that bash were denied credit or have never played there. You have to be able to read between the posts to know who is credible.

[firedawg]

im not bashing anyone. i just wanted answers. which i have yet to get

[pokernut9999]

im not bashing anyone. i just wanted answers. which i have yet to get

Well the posters that know what is going on told you BD is right. The ones that do not or have not played there tell you otherwise. Plus he said to fill out a dispute and he will abide with what SBR decides , what more do you want ?

[firedawg]

nothing.

[Bill Dozer]

i am up 427.00 correct?
my balance is showing 927.00 so my credit line is 500.00 when will i ever get the 427.00? never it appears. i should have placed thos bets elsewhere i guess

I can't log into BD with a test acct right now but if there is one balance showing a total of the $500 available plus winnings (vs. how a VIP.com breaks it down) I can see why the player would think he could take the funds.

It looks like the amount available to wager vs. the balance is where the confusion is. Players not familiar with locals and +/- figures may think the rule is saying that when the balance is above their line they can have it and that they cannot withdraw anything below it because it represents the credit.

But where it says "...until you make your first payment" suggests the book is talking about winnings since players of course will never be able to withdraw their line of credit. Regardless, BD will need to be more technical with rules (especially as they get away from forums and experienced players), have it say "the difference of winnings - credit line," and make it clear that a winning player will never get the first $500 he wins.

We will speak with BlackDog today about the details and how the funds show in the account.

[CaneDawg]

Just my two cents

If I was a book and had a grey area dispute like this for such a small amount

I would pay the customer, say thanks for his past business and cancel his account, and rewrite the rules so they are clear.

All this for 427

[onthewhat]

LOL! Blackdog fukkin sucks...they make it where its impossible to win, you have to win $1,000 to cash out $500.

Go to Credit Wagering boys, only requirement is a 3x wagering rollover which is real easy, if you win $400 you will get paid $400, no run arounds by them.

Plus Credit Wagering has deeper pockets than Black Dog. If there was a dispute at CW like this, they would probably pay you. Black Dog is counting pennies and is trying to find ways to refuse to pay customers.

How much does JJ Gold get to promote this shit book?

[bettilimbroke999]

Crapdog is beginning to show their true colors, how does a guy have to win a 1000 to cash out 500, what a joke, hell I'll give any sharp in the world that deal, lose a 1000 pay a 1000, win a 1000 get 500

[nosniboR11]

After reading this and looking at all the post by bigblackdog, what a guy to be talking for you company, u might own it but hey you are killing your business, The way you treat you players is so unprofessional and ignorant its pathetic. I would never use a backdoor book with people that can not even take care of a simple problem without insults. anyway people stay away from this joke site

Creditwagering if you need a credit book

[jjgold]

I never had any problems with Blackdog

Too many nickle and dimers here trying to get over on books

Many guys here are not experienced enough to play on credit

[onthewhat]

I never had any problems with Blackdog

Too many nickle and dimers here trying to get over on books

Many guys here are not experienced enough to play on credit

guy you get paid to promote them, doubt you even play with them

[jjgold]

onthewhat you should be careful what you say, I would not want to see anything happen to you, your out of your league Son.

I would not spread rumors about offshore operators

Best advice you will ever get

[pokernut9999]

One guy in 2 years has a complaint and everyone wants to throw them under the bus. No matter how you interpet the rules he is still wrong.


How many times has CW changed their rules in 9 months? They have been burned many times and had to adjust. Blackdogs rules are there to read yet most people never do till they have a problem. My advice is read the rules at any book you play and if you do not like them then play elsewhwere.

[jjgold]

Pokernut I only promote top books and do not want to ruin my rep so I am not going to throw any books on my list.

I do not have to tell you though


Betblackdog and Rebate Wager are very good books and very underrated.

They are also on SBR Odds Screens, I do not see Credit Wagering on there.

[BIGBLACKDOG]

The Truth Will Come Out

all live chat transcripts with firedawg have been forwarded to SBR. once they complete their review i will post BLACKDOGS final response to firedawgs allegations which will include actual transcripts from live chat.

[pokernut9999]

Pokernut I only promote top books and do not want to ruin my rep so I am not going to throw any books on my list.

I do not have to tell you though


Betblackdog and Rebate Wager are very good books and very underrated.

They are also on SBR Odds Screens, I do not see Credit Wagering on there.

All a poster has to do is look at the guys bashing and realize they have no credibility.

1st complaint in 2 years and guys come out of the woods bashing. I am sure most were turned down for credit.

[jjgold]

All a poster has to do is look at the guys bashing and realize they have no credibility.

1st complaint in 2 years and guys come out of the woods bashing. I am sure most were turned down for credit.

Good Point

[mtneer1212]

I have played with blackdog since May....... always treated with class, no problems getting paid, no hassles getting dough to them, customer service was A1.

The rules when I started were explained to me very carefully, including this dispute regarding trial accounts versus regular accounts. I also understand where the poster in question may have gotten confused, or even may have received the wrong info from a CS rep.

Luckily, or unluckily, I lost the first month I played. I paid, got transferred over to a regular account after 90 days, and have been paid every time I was owed. No issues.

IMO, The poster in question is just making noise here -- why else would he bring up CW, when his beef is with Blackdog?

[nosniboR11]

all live chat transcripts with firedawg have been forwarded to SBR. once they complete their review i will post BLACKDOGS final response to firedawgs allegations which will include actual transcripts from live chat.

Much better, just be professional even though you are right, just can make future customers fell a little more comfortable.

[pokernut9999]

I have played with blackdog since May....... always treated with class, no problems getting paid, no hassles getting dough to them, customer service was A1.

The rules when I started were explained to me very carefully, including this dispute regarding trial accounts versus regular accounts. I also understand where the poster in question may have gotten confused, or even may have received the wrong info from a CS rep.

Luckily, or unluckily, I lost the first month I played. I paid, got transferred over to a regular account after 90 days, and have been paid every time I was owed. No issues.

IMO, The poster in question is just making noise here -- why else would he bring up CW, when his beef is with Blackdog?

I mentioned CW in a response to him and he said this was a Blackdog thread


Yet his title is CW vs Blackdog

[teaserpleaser]

Today got a Bank wire from Rebate Wager for a Dime its my 3rd payout with them very solid book.

[jjgold]

Today got a Bank wire from Rebate Wager for a Dime its my 3rd payout with them very solid book.

I am going to report tomorrow on rebatewager and my payout report

[Cloak & Dagger]

Just my two cents

If I was a book and had a grey area dispute like this for such a small amount

I would pay the customer, say thanks for his past business and cancel his account, and rewrite the rules so they are clear.

All this for 427

exactly...bad press over some chump change...makes you wonder about their backing

CW is no better though...they will threaten to kill your children if you owe them $10

real talk

this is the new offshore...vague rules...and books tighter with payouts than miley cyrus

[Cloak & Dagger]

Pokernut I only promote top books and do not want to ruin my rep so I am not going to throw any books on my list.

I do not have to tell you though


Betblackdog and Rebate Wager are very good books and very underrated.

They are also on SBR Odds Screens, I do not see Credit Wagering on there.

thats because whoever makes the lines at CW has downs...

[pokernut9999]

exactly...bad press over some chump change...makes you wonder about their backing

CW is no better though...they will threaten to kill your children if you owe them $10

real talk

this is the new offshore...vague rules...and books tighter with payouts than miley cyrus

So a book should pay out everytime someone complains

[Cloak & Dagger]

So a book should pay out everytime someone complains

you seem to be defending offshore books alot lately...

what book do you work for?

[pokernut9999]

you seem to be defending offshore books alot lately...

what book do you work for?

I defend common sense We live in a world where everyone wants something fo nothing. Rules are rules !!!!


Why is that so hard to accept

Let one person slide and the next one wants to break the rules.

[BIGBLACKDOG]

exactly...bad press over some chump change...makes you wonder about their backing

CW is no better though...they will threaten to kill your children if you owe them $10

real talk

this is the new offshore...vague rules...and books tighter with payouts than miley cyrus

when you read the transcripts from live chat you will understand exactly why his payout was canceled. we will not be blackmailed by false allegations into doing something we are not required to do.

we did everything to get this individual paid in the time frame that we commit to and state on our website. he choose to use the forum to pressure us into paying him by the end of the business day. i will not be blackmailed to do something that i am not required to do. its not about the money. its about the principal.

[Cloak & Dagger]

when you read the transcripts from live chat you will understand exactly why his payout was canceled. we will not be blackmailed by false allegations into doing something we are not required to do.

we did everything to get this individual paid in the time frame that we commit to and state on our website. he choose to use the forum to pressure us into paying him by the end of the business day. i will not be blackmailed to do something that i am not required to do. its not about the money. its about the principal.

[jjgold]

Usually these type of threads the books are right and the scammer is wrong.

Rare books at fault, just a guy looking to take a shot at a book

[Cloak & Dagger]

Usually these type of threads the books are right and the scammer is wrong.

Rare books at fault, just a guy looking to take a shot at a book

cmon JJ....

are you serious with that statement??

when the US online gambling law passed...it gave more power to offshore books then ever before

now...the attitude books have is...the players need us...we dont need them

before...it was the other way around

[firedawg]

when you read the transcripts from live chat you will understand exactly why his payout was canceled. we will not be blackmailed by false allegations into doing something we are not required to do.

we did everything to get this individual paid in the time frame that we commit to and state on our website. he choose to use the forum to pressure us into paying him by the end of the business day. i will not be blackmailed to do something that i am not required to do. its not about the money. its about the principal.

make sure you post my phone conversations where i was lied to and mislead you small time books are a frickin joke. play the phone conversations where i was told different things several times you joker. i realize everyone makes mistakes but this is a joke. i didnt even want the pay out at first and you know it. YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT 1 THING. IT IS ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE!. i have been playing offshore for years and never once have i had a problem with anyone!

[firedawg]

I never had any problems with Blackdog

Too many nickle and dimers here trying to get over on books

Many guys here are not experienced enough to play on credit

jj, i wasnt tryin to nickle and dime anyone! your a frickin joke who works for these clowns. i know what i was told and no ass clown is going to post i am a liar when im not.