5Dimes is rated A+ here? WTF?

[5mike5]

Had been with 5 dimes for over 2 years, wagering more than 100K in their Sportsbook/Casino. Never had any issue what so ever with their CS/Management corresponding payouts... A book is always rated depending on the ease of deposits/Payouts and 5dimes is a step ahead of others...

Please do not compare 5dimes with BI

+1

play by the rules and u have nothing to worry about there, no matter how big or often u request payouts...and its always fast...take a shot at a bad line or something shady, and thats a different story..

CS pretty much sucks there from experiences of others, but i never had deal with CS except to arrange dep/payouts via chat....if theres a REAL problem i skipped CS and just went str8 to tony, and hes not mr. nice guy by any means, but he was more than fair the few times ive dealt with him

cant compare books that were never even in the same galaxy, but different players have different experiences too...its not always the same for everybody, nor do i agree with some of the decisions that they have made in the past

[raydog]

the sooner people realize that bi was nothing more than a few guys answering the phone and running a post up pph service, the better they will feel about having money in real sportsbooks again...

[bubba]

the sooner people realize that bi was nothing more than a few guys answering the phone and running a post up pph service, the better they will feel about having money in real sportsbooks again...

thats fine and i agree that was the case. But how did SBR not warn us about this??

[Dunhill]

Not arguing bailout is "bad" business deal, otherwise why called bailout? The FullTilt bailout by Pokerstar is 100x shittier in terms of money amount, right? They have already had all the poker players. What to gain for Pokerstar?

Pokerstars gained a monopoly on online poker. If, for example, PartyPoker would've bought Full Tilt, Pokerstars would've had competition. With the acquisition of the FT brand, no other poker room stands a chance to compete with them.

[benandjerry]

cant compare books that were never even in the same galaxy, but different players have different experiences too...its not always the same for everybody, nor do i agree with some of the decisions that they have made in the past

I'm not saying that 5d is bad, I've had nothing but good experiences with them (that doesnt mean there arent a lot of concerning issues involving them), but by your logic they have no business be an "A" book since they're not in the same league as pinny and certain other places, and its not even close. That rating is paid for.

[5mike5]

they werent in same galaxy because bi hasnt been around for years and years with a solid track record like major books like 5dimes has...not even close actully... BI was just a gimmick bonus shop that was new, just was lucky i dont take bonuses offshore...i wasnt talking about "ratings" of any kind...and im well aware they dont mean everything and are paid for

was just simply stated BI and 5dimes were never in same galaxy as overall books...even when BI was paying and their user were in love with them...thats all

[wrongturn]

Pokerstars gained a monopoly on online poker. If, for example, PartyPoker would've bought Full Tilt, Pokerstars would've had competition. With the acquisition of the FT brand, no other poker room stands a chance to compete with them.

After Pokerstar suffered about same 100s millions of loss if not bigger than FullTilt during that black day, they quickly paid all US players balance. Everybody and their mother know where to play from that point on. Bailout for monopoly, haha, that is a good one. Tell Ford for that opportunity in 2008/2009, they will laugh at your face.

[AKATDOG]

5dimes has been very good to me.

bounced a check back in november, then they sent another one within a month.

lol really!? did they cover your $30 charge for a bounced check fee? the timeyou spent trying to cashit? now your bank will hold your checks for minimum 5 days to clear now becuae they dont trust you? that place isnt even a last resort!

[Dunhill]

After Pokerstar suffered about same 100s millions of loss if not bigger than FullTilt during that black day, they quickly paid all US players balance. Everybody and their mother know where to play from that point on. Bailout for monopoly, haha, that is a good one. Tell Ford for that opportunity in 2008/2009, they will laugh at your face.

Can't say that I know anything about cars, but you might want to check a little the antitrust laws.
And going back ontopic.... if you think that pokerstars buying their biggest competitor was a bad decision on the long run you clearly have no business sense whatsoever.

[wrongturn]

Can't say that I know anything about cars, but you might want to check a little the antitrust laws.
And going back ontopic.... if you think that pokerstars buying their biggest competitor was a bad decision on the long run you clearly have no business sense whatsoever.

Come on, if their biggest competitor struggles a bit, then it is a great deal. Not when the competitor is not even in the business any more. LOL.

Good point on antitrust laws in auto industry. Definitely there are reasons that Pokerstar want to spend 100s millions to bailout Fulltilt players, but gaining monopoly is not one of them, because they have already had that. Reasons may have something to do with legal, brand name, etc., and most importantly, they show everybody that they manage business so well that they can afford 100s millions. That is not something we can say for sure about any "big" offshore books for even 2 millions after BI fiasco.

[hankcream]

If you would have chosen reduced juice in lieu of a bonus this wouldn't have been an issue. I've played at many different books over the years and for an American, 5Dimes is the only book I would give an A to. Granted their customer service isn't the greatest but as far as options, lines, and safety no other book, that I can use, is any where close.

[Dunhill]

Come on, if their biggest competitor struggles a bit, then it is a great deal. Not when the competitor is not even in the business any more. LOL.

They bought it so that other company wouldn't. On their own, FT had no chance whatsoever to get back on their feet. But if another company (like partypoker or that bernard tapie group) were to buy them, they would've had a lot of competition again. By buying FT, pokerstars won't have to worry about competition for a very very long time.

[wrongturn]

They bought it so that other company wouldn't. On their own, FT had no chance whatsoever to get back on their feet. But if another company (like partypoker or that bernard tapie group) were to buy them, they would've had a lot of competition again. By buying FT, pokerstars won't have to worry about competition for a very very long time.

OK, it makes sense only if bailout came before others had a chance, not after the so called "deals" fell off repeatedly, and obviously that no one will do that.

[ChicagoBlackhawk]

Tried 5 dimes poker room out. After realizing how high the rake is...called to inquire.
Was put on hold for 5 minutes with no return....hung up on twice, and hounded for account info the next time......all for a simple question

Now if it is such a simple question, answer me why they could not and would not answer this. The only answer they would repeat is it is a 3rd party software.....If you guys put your name on the software, dont you think you can answer a simple question about how you make money?

Stay away from these crooks. the customer service department is the biggest joke in the industry. bunch of children answering calls.

[SportsMushroom]

another no pay thread about 5 dimes

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/2133756-youwager-heritage-5dimes.html

are people really going to continue defending them?

[jmillionz]

Been playing at 5dimes for the last 2 years, never and I mean NEVER an issue. Paid like clockwork every time and quickly EVERY time! Customer service can be tough at times but other than that no other book for US players comes close, end I story!! Then again I never accepted any bonuses there, so I can't speak on that!

[jmillionz]

Oh and btw roughly $350,000 in transactions between deposits an withdraws. I just net over my transactions about a week ago for last 2 years. So it's funny they will try to beat someone for pennies and pay me thousands every month with no issues!! There is more to these stories if they aren't paying someone, and you aren't getting the full story or truth from people who get hassles for a payout!!

[ChicagoBlackhawk]

so how much is SBR or 5dimes paying you for these shill posts jmill?

[jmillionz]

Yea I'm a shill. Check my posts hawk. Then get back to me!

[5mike5]

no use in arguing with him Jmillz, its pointless...

callin u a shill is just their defense mechanism

[jmillionz]

You are right about that Mike. All I can say is I know I never have any issues at 5dimes. Get paid and paid quickly every time. And judging by your posts you always do as well. Hard for me to believe they would stiff anyone being the fact I never get hassled about a payout. Getting paid and in a timely manner is most important to me, so if the CS isn't the greatest ill trade that for solid

[jmillionz]

Trade that for solid payouts every time! I understand that we can't rule out what can happen offshore after the BI debacle but I have to be truthful about 5dimes and truth is they have never done me wrong. Even when there was an issue with a certain method a year and a half ago and I didn't get that payout via that method, they made good on it via a different method!

[5mike5]

totally agree, they pay me like clockwork, and lightening fast, which is all i care about...i dont deal with CS unless on chat for payouts/deposits....they never give me any problems whatsoever

[SportsMushroom]

I like how people that defend 5dimes pay no attention to the daily threads about nopays, slowpays, illegally confiscated balances and abuse by 5dimes


yeah keep saying that you got paid over and over, either you are a shill or I will be laughing my ass of when you come in here whining one day cause its your turn to get the shaft from 5dimes

[jmillionz]

Shroom all we are doing is speaking on our own experience with them. We all realize anything is possible and it certainly would suck if 5dimes decided to run off like BI. That being said, do you really think BI and 5dimes should ever be compared or mentioned in the same sentence? I would feel comfortable saying 5 D's is very well established and has a lot to lose if they ever considered pulling that shit! In fact they stand to lose a lot more long term than gain by running off! Again "anything is possible" but I feel pretty comfortable having a balance at 5dimes, it's very simple for those that don't. You ready??? Don't play there!! I think they will make it without the action of those that don't feel they are a good and safe book cause I think it's safe to say there are a lot more bettors that think they are a safe and solid book than those that don't!! Enough said!

[BigDofBA]

I've heard people say they have horrible customer service but I've had great experiences.

I always get paid super quick too.

I don't want to jinx it but so far so good. They will continue to have my business and they are my #1 book.

[SportsMushroom]

Shroom all we are doing is speaking on our own experience with them. We all realize anything is possible and it certainly would suck if 5dimes decided to run off like BI. That being said, do you really think BI and 5dimes should ever be compared or mentioned in the same sentence? I would feel comfortable saying 5 D's is very well established and has a lot to lose if they ever considered pulling that shit! In fact they stand to lose a lot more long term than gain by running off! Again "anything is possible" but I feel pretty comfortable having a balance at 5dimes, it's very simple for those that don't. You ready??? Don't play there!! I think they will make it without the action of those that don't feel they are a good and safe book cause I think it's safe to say there are a lot more bettors that think they are a safe and solid book than those that don't!! Enough said!

if you want to praise 5dimes open a new thread and do it there

by going into threads were people have legitimate complaints about 5dimes and posting about your 'good experience' is like spitting in their face

and it makes you a shill, and if you are not a shill then it makes you a douchebag

why would you add insult to injury? people being robbed by 5dimes dont need you telling them about your 'experience'

[tto827]

In some cases yes mushroom, you are a douchebag stating your good experiences with a book. But the good majority of the time it is the player thats attempting to screw the book, not the other way around. Or the player is just an idiot and didn't follow rules he agreed to.

[bigskings]

5D is fine with me so far.
The problem is we are wagering on line, we should expect problems.
No one sportsbook is perfect! The person said 5 dimes is the worst, please suggest at least 10 that better than it, right?
I played at 4 different book before, now mainly played at 5dimes

[benandjerry]

5D is fine with me so far.
The problem is we are wagering on line, we should expect problems.
No one sportsbook is perfect! The person said 5 dimes is the worst, please suggest at least 10 that better than it, right?
I played at 4 different book before, now mainly played at 5dimes

Ok I'll bite.

pinnacle, the greek, sbobet, ibcbet, dafabet, 188bet are all arguably better, and I could inflate this a lot by listing skins of the major asians. Then it becomes a bit more muddy, depending on how you judge limitation or if you're a small stake bettor bet365 and ladbrokes could easily be ranked ahead as well as several other EU books. Out of the US facing off shores I cant comment on legends or heritage but I think a case could be made for them? Bookmaker/cris/dsi has a good case too and I actually prefer dsi over 5d overall, down to personal preference a bit I guess. They're probably a top5, at the very least top10 Costa Rican off shore shop though, but not world wide.

I'm not saying 5dimes is bad, they have never done me wrong either and I have some action there, though far from the majority, that doesnt mean there hasnt been a few concerning issues surrounding them around here that shouldnt be swept under the carpet. Carry on with the blindfold and you may learn the hard way. All I'm saying is there is nothing wrong proceeding with caution, the reason you're using them is not necessarily because of how great they are, but maybe rather the lack of greater competitive alternatives.

[szk1983]

I have been with 5dimes for 6 years now. I have never had an issue with a payout, and that is really all that I care about. In fact almost every ** withdrawal that I make, I have the money the same day. **, next morning. True, there customer service reps are for the most part very rude, as are their managers. Who cares? As long as I get paid, I can handle rudeness. Bottom line, in all of the 5dime complaint threads, I have not heard of anyone getting stiffed of money that was rightfully owed to them, and that's all I care about.

[Alluvada143]

@SZK 1983 - Well said

[tto827]

Not arguing bailout is "bad" business deal, otherwise why called bailout? The FullTilt bailout by Pokerstar is 100x shittier in terms of money amount, right? They have already had all the poker players. What to gain for Pokerstar?

I am not saying big books are in shaky finances. But who knows? You know? SBR know? Who to believe? At least the BI fiasco does not increase players' confidence on their financials, in fact, confidence much more reduced. May be not to you and not big drop to me, but to many other players, including all new players, that is a huge confidence hit.

Poker stars knows in the long run, that after X amount of play, they will get X amount of dollars back (from rake, tourney entries, etc.)
Giving Justin7 $85,000 could end up costing them half a million. Too many sharps with too high of balances, there is no way to calculate what the total cost would be of a bailout for a book because they don't know how much the players will win/lose before meeting rollover. Poker stars was easy,
bailout-(bailout*rake*rollover). They knew what they were getting into, no book does.

[mighty maron]

Just asked by 5dimes to send money under a name different than my own. This does not seem like a good idea....

[szk1983]

Just asked by 5dimes to send money under a name different than my own. This does not seem like a good idea....

I've actually done that plenty of times. It's not just 5dimes. With some of their processors, you can only send one deposit per 8 days per name, so if you sent under your name within the last 8 days, you'll have to send it under another sender name. Nothing shady about that.