If you were scammed by Bet Islands and are interested in uniting to form a group that would focus on recovering our funds with the focus of facilitating a bailout from a real book. We need to unite together and show the real sportsbooks that a collapse like this cannot be allowed to happen if they want their business to survive. The offshore world simply cannot survive, especially for americans, if a theft like this is allowed to happen. With a rumored meeting in the coming weeks of sportsbook managers, now is the time to band together as collectively we will have a greater impact on the process as opposed to just waiting in the wings for something to happen.
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Im in what nowComment -
Good luck with this...so your going to unite American bettors, tell them unless there is a guarantee on players funds, you'll refuse to send money to books.
This should do well..until NFL action resumes that week.
Sorry, but losers are losers for a reason, they can't resist betting week after week - and books would love it WINNERS went on strike and refused to play with them.Comment -
They arent getting a dollar of my money ever again unless i see a bailout..but everyone talks about getting people united but i never hear any plan of what to do..there has to be a plan of what to do and some organization. I think calls and emails would help a little bit, maybe..but at the end of the day..the biggest thing that needs to be done is to convince the books its better for them long term to get a deal done for the players..i have heard many people in the different forums, some affected and some not, say that this is a black eye on the industry..and it is, these books need to be convinced that helping to heal that black eye will improve their business.Comment -
The reason that there will be no bailouts from any reputable book is because most of the BetIslands accounts were already accountholders at other books. Why would a book give away money to a customer that it already has?Comment -
To keep business..i will use myself as an example. In the last 2 years i know i have lost close to 30k to youwager, if there is no bailout youwager will never see a fukking dime from me, i will not risk going on a nice run and not getting my money..if books come together to offer a bailout it will make them look good, keep customers happy..and they know in the long run they will get it back anyway.Comment -
guys no book(solid books anyways) in their right mind is just going to bailout OPs becuase BI ripped them off
makes 0 business sense to do so....
good will doesnt fly in the offshore gambling world
im rooting for u guys, but i think chances are below slimComment -
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Been using the same sports book for years until i recently switched, so i was unaware of bet islands until joining this forum recently. Just wondering what made them so attractive?
I read that they did not even have live betting. I'm huge on live betting, i understand others may not be, but what was so attractive about this book?Comment -
According to Bill Dozer of SBR there are meetings where it's being discussed..another guy 'claims' he has contacts that tell him 4 or 5 books might get together and so something for the players..and yes i know that most of these people who claim they have contacts are full of shit, but it's possible..if they do this bailout you and i both know they get this money back in the long run and the people who were bailed out will fall in love with there rescuer..1.5 million sounds like a lot but itf its split up by 4 or 5 books thats nothing but a bad day in the NFL..if i was book id gladly trade that for years of future business.Comment -
well, i know if i had lost money there, i would be holding out for any hope i could too so dont blame u
GL and hope u guys all get something quick as possible
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I hope people that lost some real money at BI get it back.. I just really think its a long shot.. and if something is done it will be something ridiclous in the books favor that makes it impossible to ever see a dime for most playersComment -
hope is all you will have to hold onto,Comment -
This wont work for those who try itComment -
I'm in....okay now what lol.
Ain't nothing we can do.Comment -
I am in the same boat. Over the last ten years I have opened accounts at just about every decent book out there, even some indecent ones. So they all have me on their list. Currently I am only funded at four, and this leaves me feeling kinda naked, cause I like to have a lot of options for line shopping. Over these ten years I have usually been active at twice that many or more. Over the last month, I have received three offers from books that I would have accepted if not for the BI rip-off. I am pulling my horns in. I do not feel safe, and I have too much of my net worth out there. So, if there are enough posters like me and the other posters in this thread and the other similar thread, the off-shore books are losing some business.Last edited by BranchDavidian; 12-30-12, 12:51 AM.Comment -
recipe for disaster
What did you expect, you let wiseguys in for the commissions you give away 1/2 points , cash back , cash bonuses, freeplays to all that complain or beg , low juice etc. things a lot of books could not afford to offer and everyone bought it up, throw in the nice rating from SBR and you have a recipe for disaster. And now you want a bailout and most likely be pissed if the book that bails you out wont give you what you are used to. Time to look elsewhere good books out there that do not need SBR approval and that offer great CS and bonuses and fast payouts what else do you need Happy new years to all .Comment -
What books do you use that have great CS and fast payouts. Legit question, not being a smart ass. There are the obvious ones like Bookmaker and 5Dimes, but I hear other guys say they use lesser known books that don't advertise (but they claim are great books). Do you have any others you've used that you are comfortable with, that might be lesser known, but solid books?Comment -
Your money is gone, game, set, match...sorry. But if talking about hope makes you feel better, well it works for 12 Step support groups.Comment -
It's highly doubtful YouWager scammed you out of a single penny while Betislands was a complete scam. So you can post up with YW and get paid, while BI is no longer around. Also, why should any book be put at risk due to the shit management of BI with a bail out? When Jon was pimping BI after his original backer woke up, every company balked at the huge debt he carried. And, rightly so. This was not a mystery in the industry and everyone saw it coming. Well, everyone except SBR.
You can't sleep at the wheel or your gonna crash. SBR, players, and ownership bought a line of bullshit from a snake oil salesman with no history of running a business. Again, why should shops doing the right thing put their business in jeopardy? Just post up at a good shop that pays. One more thing, Mr. Jones is correct. The vast majority of players where stolen from Betphoenix and Justbet. Both places Jon worked as a sales man. Best of luck to you JDC.
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Let's see how the meeting in the second week of January goes. There are reputable books who understand what is on the line here. Is it going to be the way of the criminals (BI/EZ) or the way of reliable business? It is up to these reputable books to set the standard. It is up to these books to draw a line and say 'enough is enough'. If they don't do that, the scammers win and it will all be downhill from here. If offshore is widely considered unreliable, offshore -as a whole- loses. The bailout these books would envision is not for immediate profit, but for longterm credibility of an industry. This industry needs standard bearers, that are clearly differentiated from the thieves who believe that CR will offer them safe shelter from justice.Last edited by Dark Horse; 12-30-12, 08:22 PM.Comment -
risk vs reward
i cant even believe people think other books should make up for another books bad business.
if a book did do that they should make you sign a waiver saying you will never deposit at a brand new book ever again.
wtf has this world come to does anyone take responsibility for their own actions anymore?Comment -
Risk versus reward? What does that have to do with crime? Or is it all just the same to you because you think it doesn't affect you?Comment -
here is food for thought for you guys... pick someone to speak with sbrjohn ... if a book comes along that actually decides to help out, they will most certainly request a partial deposit of the BI balance...ask sbrjohn if he would be interested in a guarantee deal like the shrink offered at his forum... perhaps john can guarantee the safety of everyones funds up to a certain amount 2-5k maybe...put him on the hook if something bad were to happen... that way guys might (or might not) feel a little better about sending more money offshore, since that will inevitably be part of the deal....it never hurts to askComment -
you know i am far from clueless, bigd... i didnt have money at bi...regardless of if shrink ever got cornered on his guarantee , it wouldnt hurt for these guys to ask john if he would honor something like that(merely an idea to bring up)...something to help them realize that sbr didnt set out to ever have players funds taken...it might be seen as a good faith gesture...Comment -
go to deep web
hire ''some people''...Comment
