Large Money Mia From Betfair Account

**wtf** · 12-05-08, 11:17 AM

aston NEVER POSTED the log of the wagers he claims he lost on. saying BF locked his account.

**pjesnik24** · 12-05-08, 12:03 PM

I believe that some of the people from SBR were in contact with him if I remember correctly from some posts in this thread. Can they say something or Aston asked everybody to keep his privacy?

**APK** · 12-05-08, 12:09 PM

Maybe he's sleeping with the fishes.

**wtf** · 12-05-08, 12:15 PM

one way or the other something FISHY did happen, that is for sure

**sickler** · 12-22-08, 06:40 PM

Was this ever resolved?

**sickler** · 12-25-08, 10:47 AM

Aston airs his dirty laundry, then disappears in the middle of the night, leaving us in a lurch. Not cool.

Dozer et al, what was the status of this complaint when it left your radar? Or has it?

Inquiring minds want to know.

**pjesnik24** · 12-25-08, 01:50 PM

well, if I remember correctly people from SBR were helping him so they should have at least some info. I would apreciate it if they would at least say that they are not allowed to say anything and not to ignore us all

**sickler** · 12-25-08, 09:32 PM

**wtf** · 12-25-08, 09:59 PM

dear mods, do you guys submit complaints to betfair also? please inquire about this issue. thanks

**sickler** · 12-25-08, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by wtf

dear mods, do you guys submit complaints to betfair also? please inquire about this issue. thanks

SBR had contact with Betfair regarding this dispute.

Some of us have accounts at Betfair. This isn't a case of a bunch of grannies in a knitting circle waiting for the latest gossip that shouldn't concern us.

**wtf** · 12-25-08, 10:54 PM

i know for a fact betfair are pure slime, in the same arena as madoff

very eager to see what their position on this is

i am sure they want it to go away and paid off aston to shut up

**Justin7** · 12-26-08, 02:52 AM

I have addressed a couple complaints against BetFair. BetFair's reponses are mostly useless. "We will contact the customer". But the complaining player usually drops the complaint.

I have one open now regarding a software issue. We'll see if they resolve it satisfactorily with the player. The dispute is over a trivial amount, so it doesn't make a particularly good test case.

**acw** · 12-26-08, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

BetFair's reponses are mostly useless.

I am looking forward to a downgrade!

**noyb** · 12-26-08, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by acw

I am looking forward to a downgrade!

yeah because those other A-books (Bookmaker-group f.e.) are sooo much better and reliable then Betfair

**jalle** · 12-26-08, 08:06 AM

Really no responses from Aston, what a shame...

**sickler** · 12-26-08, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by Justin7

I have addressed a couple complaints against BetFair. BetFair's reponses are mostly useless. "We will contact the customer". But the complaining player usually drops the complaint.

I have one open now regarding a software issue. We'll see if they resolve it satisfactorily with the player. The dispute is over a trivial amount, so it doesn't make a particularly good test case.

So SBR had no further correspondence with Aston and Betfair in regards to this dispute?

**sickler** · 01-05-09, 10:19 PM

**Stumpage** · 01-05-09, 11:20 PM

Maybe BetFair, ya know...."Took 'im out".....

**Santo** · 01-06-09, 09:56 PM

Some of you watch too many movies

**jasonyap** · 01-09-09, 08:26 AM

Just complaint to http://www.ibas-uk.com if it's real...

**wtf** · 01-09-09, 08:49 AM

come on aston' life was ruined by this, then he stops posting with no resolution?

something major happened.

**Mudcat** · 01-09-09, 09:34 AM

Could have just been a hoax. Quite a few times over the years I have seen guys just make up stories like that.

Don't know the purpose. A form of attention whoring I guess.

Jamie_UK and bigloser have done that on this forum. Maybe this was a ghost.

**sickler** · 01-09-09, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by Mudcat

Could have just been a hoax. Quite a few times over the years I have seen guys just make up stories like that.

Don't know the purpose. A form of attention whoring I guess.

Jamie_UK and bigloser have done that on this forum. Maybe this was a ghost.

No, this situation appears to be real. Refer to SBR employee JoshW's posts in this thread:

Originally posted by JoshW

I know that Bet Fair security team is looking into the issue. SBR has also had contact with the Bet Fair Canadian account manager who is going to look into this situation.

None of this points to any outcome, but Bet Fair is at least looking specifically at this player's account issues.

Originally posted by JoshW

Bet Fair security is still investigating. Based on discussion with management the money on the other side of the bets was not dumped to certain accouts (100s of account on the other side of the bets), so that eliminates the best chance of recovering funds in my mind.

SBR will continue to try to help the player, but at this point it looks like whether fraudulent or not, the money (aside from credit card fraud charges) is gone and can't be recovered.

The issue is did he lose the money or did unauthorized forces take control of his account.

**JoshW** · 01-09-09, 12:08 PM

It wasn't a hoax. As far as I know Bet Fair showed that the bets were made whether it was the player making them or not from his normal IP address using his username and password. I was sent the bets in question with the player's permission and agreed nothing could be done since everything was legitimate. BetFair was willing to make some small consessions such as a small commission break on future action (this was just to help the player out, no admission of anything wrong on bet fair end), and that was the last I heard from either side.

**wtf** · 01-09-09, 12:14 PM

so josh, who could have profited from these actions assuming it was not aston?

or just some malicious actions of a hacker?

could someone been on the other side of these wagers since your the only one outside of aston to see them. interested in your thoughts.

**bettilimbroke999** · 01-09-09, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by JoshW

It wasn't a hoax. As far as I know Bet Fair showed that the bets were made whether it was the player making them or not from his normal IP address using his username and password. I was sent the bets in question with the player's permission and agreed nothing could be done since everything was legitimate. BetFair was willing to make some small consessions such as a small commission break on future action (this was just to help the player out, no admission of anything wrong on bet fair end), and that was the last I heard from either side.

Sounds like aston decided to go big time or on tilt and ended up in the soup kitchen, I just dont see how some1 could have used his username/pass from his IP address to lose his money on some horse races, just seems very unlikely especially if it was 30-1 b/c if he put 30000 on a 30-1, the guy who broke into his house to get on his computer and steal his money would've needed to also have 900000 in his own account to match the 30-1 bet, just seems very unlikely

**JoshW** · 01-09-09, 12:47 PM

wtf,

I was told that their were dozens of bettors on the other sides of all these bets, with the total number of bettors on the other sides being in the hundreds. I did not see anything but the actual bets, not who matched them. But that was an obvious issue, so I went over it with Betfair. And they said that was no pattern on who was on the other side.

My guess is malicious hacker if Ashton didn't make the bets, because there is no way that anyone profited.

**sickler** · 01-09-09, 01:01 PM

Well, I suspected (and still do) that Aston gambled big, lost, and came out with this story in an effort to recoup a big loss. This is without any proof, just an opinion.

**fiveteamer** · 01-09-09, 01:11 PM

it would be a shame if SBR spent time investigating a guy who just went on tilt.

**pjesnik24** · 01-09-09, 01:27 PM

what did betfair say, where the odds at market average or...?

**Mudcat** · 01-09-09, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by sickler

No, this situation appears to be real. Refer to SBR employee JoshW's posts in this thread:

Oh. I hadn't read much of the thread. Probably should have kept my idle speculation to myself. Sorry.

**HeeeHAWWWW** · 01-09-09, 01:36 PM

I suspected wifi snooping at the time, since he didn't seem to understand what encryption was.

**headgames** · 01-09-09, 04:21 PM

If a player used another person's unprotected wifi connection, could login/password details be intercepted or recovered?

**Justin7** · 01-12-09, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by fiveteamer

it would be a shame if SBR spent time investigating a guy who just went on tilt.

I can't comment on this complaint, but I can say... about 25% of the complaints are completely without merit.

**sickler** · 11-24-09, 11:13 PM

Aston disappeared after dropping this bomb.