Real Madrid vs Barcelona - Copa 2nd Leg

Visage987 · 01-24-12, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by SlickRick1382

Personally thinking that the over should be good play being that Real Madrid needs to win 2-0, 3-1, 3-2, etc. Since they have to score a minimum two goals to advance they leave themselves up to counter attacks

well, i am no expert, but
I don't think that they would need that at all , since that is not a deciding game (just one of many).

SlickRick1382 · 01-24-12, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by Visage987

well, i am no expert, but I don't think that they would need that at all , since that is not a deciding game (just one of many).

It's the 2nd leg of the Copa Del Rey Tourney that is based on aggregate score so yes they would since they lost the 1st game at home 2-1

Visage987 · 01-24-12, 02:06 PM

What i meant was, that they (madrid) would be happy even with a 1-0 win.
Besides, barcelona always has a greater ball possesion and they tend to play it safe, leaving little room for things like counter attack and what not, which means less oportunity for the other team to score.....

SlickRick1382 · 01-24-12, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Visage987

What i meant was, that they (madrid) would be happy even with a 1-0 win. Besides, barcelona always has a greater ball possesion and they tend to play it safe, leaving little room for things like counter attack and what not, which means less oportunity for the other team to score.....

A 1-0 win means they lose and don't advance on aggregate. They lost 2-1 at home so a 1-0 makes it 2-2 on aggregate but Barcelona advances since they didn't concede at home.

Real can only advance with a 2-0, 3-1, 3-2 or better.

The Special One · 01-24-12, 02:20 PM

Draw for sure

SlickRick1382 · 01-24-12, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by The Special One

Draw for sure

I could always play Real Madrid ML at +465 and the draw at +329

Or perhaps Real Madrid at +1 -115

dxunchuk · 01-24-12, 02:29 PM

if I play this game, I would bet on O/U not on money line

Visage987 · 01-24-12, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by SlickRick1382

A 1-0 win means they lose and don't advance on aggregate. They lost 2-1 at home so a 1-0 makes it 2-2 on aggregate but Barcelona advances since they didn't concede at home.

Real can only advance with a 2-0, 3-1, 3-2 or better.

true

Either way, this is one of these games, that i won't touch.

allin1 · 01-24-12, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Visage987

true

Either way, this is one of these games, that i won't touch.

The Hot Pepper · 01-24-12, 03:55 PM

It should be an over 2.5 if Barcelona doesn't lay the concrete in the box...

GoodSun · 01-24-12, 04:05 PM

Barca ML, real madrid defense playing terrible.

SlickRick1382 · 01-24-12, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by The Hot Pepper

It should be an over 2.5 if Barcelona doesn't lay the concrete in the box...

That's what I was thinking and probably the play I would make. Considering that Real Madrid has to score to have a shot I'm leaning towards the over. Only problem is my book has it at Over 3 which reduces my desire to play it at the moment

jordigs · 01-24-12, 05:14 PM

IMO over game. Madrid needs to score 2 goals or more, and Barça with some fast players like alexis or messi can make some damage on Reals defense.

The Hot Pepper · 01-24-12, 07:11 PM

After further thinking about this game it could be a honeypot for the bookies so a mere 1-1 could be very well possible if you ask me.

Better not to touch this match.

JOHON8 · 01-25-12, 12:51 AM

Barca holding possession, frustrating Madrid who can barely create a goal against them. Mourinho is a great coach but he's facing the toughest team on earth.

What benefits the books in a big game like this? Draw or under, that's the smart bet pre-match bet, otherwise who the **** knows what's gonna happen.

eXon · 01-25-12, 02:25 AM

5.25 On RM? I get that Barca is a tough team to beat when they're playing at home, but they aint unbeatable for sure. So good value here on Real, Mourinho has to change tactics though, can't play the way they played at home. If you ask me over 2,5 is the way to go.

SlickRick1382 · 01-25-12, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by eXon

5.25 On RM? I get that Barca is a tough team to beat when they're playing at home, but they aint unbeatable for sure. So good value here on Real, Mourinho has to change tactics though, can't play the way they played at home. If you ask me over 2,5 is the way to go.

Agreed. That's why I'm tempted to throw a unit on Real Madrid. It's not impossible that Barca loses and at +450 I think their is a ton of value. If I do go Real Madrid +450 I may put down a half unit or so on the draw at +330 as well.

I like the Over but my book has it at o/u 3 at -116 so I'll most likely pass since I can't get 2.5

Just checked and the ML is now at +414 down from +450 earlier. Think it's worth a shot.

eXon · 01-25-12, 03:06 AM

Yeah screw the over, it's down to 1,60 @ Unibet so no value at all. I'm going with Real madrid and the draw as well. Good luck.

Sunde91 · 01-25-12, 03:50 AM

Madrid +1 1.8 or +.75 +107 looks like ridiculous value

If they have any heart at all they wont get destroyed again by their rival

Is the line inflated because Bar has handled them so much?

SlickRick1382 · 01-25-12, 04:05 AM

Originally posted by Sunde91

Madrid +1 1.8 or +.75 +107 looks like ridiculous value If they have any heart at all they wont get destroyed again by their rival Is the line inflated because Bar has handled them so much?

Think it has more to do with the fact that Barcelona is at home. Always tough to win in Camp Nou.

Still it's bust or nothing for Real Madrid in my opinion. Losing 1-0 or 3-0 is the same thing in this case and is a loss. Hopefully Mourinho stops with the defending tactics all game and opens up his teams attack more.

FindTheLock · 01-25-12, 04:23 AM

the problem with playing barcelona is they hold the ball for as long as they want to. They could easily burn half the game away just passing the ball back and forth to each other.

SlickRick1382 · 01-25-12, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

the problem with playing barcelona is they hold the ball for as long as they want to. They could easily burn half the game away just passing the ball back and forth to each other.

Which is why Real Madrid needs to push the action and score goals right away

FindTheLock · 01-25-12, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by SlickRick1382

Which is why Real Madrid needs to push the action and score goals right away

real will have limited possession in this game. They will need to play a perfect game to beat barcelona on their home field. Barcelona don't need to push for anything, and that isn't a good recipe for an over. Just because a team needs to score doesn't mean they will be able to.

SlickRick1382 · 01-25-12, 04:42 AM

Originally posted by FindTheLock

real will have limited possession in this game. They will need to play a perfect game to beat barcelona on their home field. Barcelona don't need to push for anything, and that isn't a good recipe for an over. Just because a team needs to score doesn't mean they will be able to.

I'm not playing the over. Playing Real Madrid Money Line at +440 and the Draw at +323

FindTheLock · 01-25-12, 05:05 AM

if that is what you like you should just take the +1 on real madrid so if they lose by 1 which is the most likely scenario u will get a push.

dariofranco · 01-25-12, 11:51 AM

R.Madrid it's not going to win in Barcelona for sure, so betting that side is losing money. First of all Guardiola, the players and the fans are not going to be relaxed. It's a derby against his max rival and want to beat them. And in the other side Madrid players are conditionated by the pressure that suppose can not beat Barsa.
After last match Ramos argued with Mourinho, one of the things they discuss about were that players don't understand why Mou change the playing way when the rival is Barsa into a deffensive tactic. Today, maybe we'll see Madrid playing as always, attacking, no because Mou wants, but result in Benabeu needs it. If Barsa let it..
Today i take more goals in scond half(1 unit), i thought both teams are not going to start in a run to run match, and wait to second half with 20-25 mins intenses. We'll see anyway, a difficult match to bet

Sorry if you dont understand something but my english is not as good as i like

showtiime · 01-25-12, 11:55 AM

BTS, chalky but meh

Alexy77 · 01-25-12, 02:52 PM

EaglesPhan36 · 01-25-12, 04:40 PM

Someone needs to score to get this thing flowing + I got the over and this blows.

Covy · 01-25-12, 04:44 PM

Madrid seems to be creating more chances...perhaps they would be a 2H play?

GPJ · 01-25-12, 04:47 PM

Real creates 10 chances, no goal, Barcelona creates one chance and scores, that's the difference.

latinrus · 01-25-12, 04:51 PM

Sad, sad, sad for Madrid fan!

great 45 minutes! And the team losing! Shitload of missed chances!

EaglesPhan36 · 01-25-12, 04:52 PM

That was a nice flurry to get some goals going. I can see the hinges coming off in the 2nd half and Barca scoring a couple more with Real maybe getting a consolation goal.

latinrus · 01-25-12, 05:00 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

That was a nice flurry to get some goals going. I can see the hinges coming off in the 2nd half and Barca scoring a couple more with Real maybe getting a consolation goal.

hope not!

Today at least I saw the Madrid I want to see!

Mourinho lose the game in Madrid, he completely shit his pants there! Playing ultradefensive at home!

Madrid can play great football if the want! but sadly today losing!