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  • baskets
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-24-11
    • 11691

    #36
    good luck to all. hope my -3 at least pushes. I just can't see a 2 goal win.

    but I've been wrong before, especially in soccer
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    • EaglesPhan36
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-06-06
      • 71662

      #37
      Every game you bet on is guess work Clockwork. Whether we admit it or not. In the end, you either guess right or wrong.
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      • The Special One
        Restricted User
        • 01-08-11
        • 3972

        #38
        has anyone here ever watched a game without betting it?
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        • FindTheLock
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-27-10
          • 7194

          #39
          yeah, gambling is gambling in the long run, but you can wait for an edge and you will be more successful then trying to bet on heads or tails.
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          • FindTheLock
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-27-10
            • 7194

            #40
            Originally posted by The Special One
            has anyone here ever watched a game without betting it?
            I watch a lot of games I didn't bet on, but I always have a pick bet to see if I would have made the right decision. So gambling was involved for sure...
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            • The Special One
              Restricted User
              • 01-08-11
              • 3972

              #41
              really? personally, i dont bet the games that im going to watch, most of the time..
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              • EaglesPhan36
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 12-06-06
                • 71662

                #42
                Majority of the soccer I bet on, I don't get to watch.
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                • FindTheLock
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-27-10
                  • 7194

                  #43
                  GL fellas! No matter what you bet on or if you watch, I hope you all win in the long run!
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                  • baskets
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-24-11
                    • 11691

                    #44
                    think it will be 2-0 minimum at the half. then there will definitely be a goal in the 2nd half. 3-0 absolute minimum and Al Jazeer doesn't sniff a goal
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                    • FindTheLock
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-27-10
                      • 7194

                      #45
                      I am going to be honest and I could be very wrong, but I think it will be 3 or 4-0 in the 1H.
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                      • baskets
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-24-11
                        • 11691

                        #46
                        sound focking great to me, sir.
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                        • southpaw74
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-21-09
                          • 7104

                          #47
                          Barcelona -3 and over 4 is juiced like crazy at 5dimes. I'm torn
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                          • baskets
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-24-11
                            • 11691

                            #48
                            how can you lose the -3? has to be worst case you get a push


                            2-0, 2-1 ---------------- almost impossible

                            3-1 --------------------- probably only way to lose the -3

                            3-0, 4-1 ---------------- at least a push
                            4-0, 5-1, 5-0, etc ------ golden
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                            • FindTheLock
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-27-10
                              • 7194

                              #49
                              I think final score will end up being 5-0 or 6-0.
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                              • BaronMunchausen
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 07-04-10
                                • 82

                                #50
                                Barcelona should cruise to a 4 or 5 goal victory in my opinion. I don't expect Al Sadd to score, so I'm staying away from the Over 4 just in case Barca only nets 4. Here's an interesting quote from an article I read earlier....

                                "Al Sadd set up the glamour tie after hitting the African champions Esperance on the break in their quarter-final, beating the Tunisians 2-1 despite having only four shots on goal all game."

                                Barca -3 for me.
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                                • BaronMunchausen
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 07-04-10
                                  • 82

                                  #51
                                  Even if Barca takes it easy, I have a hard time believing they won't win by 4+ if Al-Sadd could only manage 4 shots on goal against Tunisia. How many opportunities will they have against a team like Barca? 2-3?
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                                  • baskets
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-24-11
                                    • 11691

                                    #52
                                    I agree.

                                    What I don't understand is how on back to back days these picks can be so obvious and clear and then just routinely hit... ????

                                    I mean, you flash the card of Mont/Santos games in front of anybody and they'd instinctively have to go Mont and Santos on the sides and over/over on the totals. And then like clockwork they easily cruised on in.

                                    And here it is again. A plain as apples game of Barca/Al Whatever and it looks clear as day. Hope I don't screwed on this. I just can't imagine Barca w/ just 1 or 2 goals in this game. How would that be possible?
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                                    • Boxing Champ
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-11-11
                                      • 3358

                                      #53
                                      Guys this tournament is about humility too.
                                      That's why there's hardly any fouls.
                                      Barca has nothing to prove. Al Saads coach said that the only way they have a chance is if they field 15 players.. They might just score 2 or 3 and then just pass, or let in a goal of mercy..
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                                      • Boxing Champ
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 03-11-11
                                        • 3358

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by baskets
                                        I agree.

                                        What I don't understand is how on back to back days these picks can be so obvious and clear and then just routinely hit... ????

                                        I mean, you flash the card of Mont/Santos games in front of anybody and they'd instinctively have to go Mont and Santos on the sides and over/over on the totals. And then like clockwork they easily cruised on in.

                                        And here it is again. A plain as apples game of Barca/Al Whatever and it looks clear as day. Hope I don't screwed on this. I just can't imagine Barca w/ just 1 or 2 goals in this game. How would that be possible?
                                        I bet you lost your obvious Monterey over Reysol too...and the Over
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                                        • FindTheLock
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-27-10
                                          • 7194

                                          #55
                                          if Al Sadd got to play with 15 i would still pick Barcelona haha
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                                          • BaronMunchausen
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 07-04-10
                                            • 82

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                            Guys this tournament is about humility too.
                                            That's why there's hardly any fouls.
                                            Barca has nothing to prove. Al Saads coach said that the only way they have a chance is if they field 15 players.. They might just score 2 or 3 and then just pass, or let in a goal of mercy..
                                            That's really the only thing that worries me. The fact that they have absolutely nothing to prove and they know Al-Sadd has zero chance of beating them, so they allow a late sympathy goal or stop trying after they take a 2 or 3-0 lead.
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                                            • Boxing Champ
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-11-11
                                              • 3358

                                              #57
                                              But you notice the total hasn't moved...
                                              It's juiced like crazy on the Over at -151 now...but it didn't move to 4.25 like it usually does..
                                              It stays juiced to the outrageous amount and Under is only +111 not +130
                                              usually that means Under is the play...
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                                              • FindTheLock
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-27-10
                                                • 7194

                                                #58
                                                game isn't for 3 hours. Still time to move the line on it.
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                                                • baskets
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-24-11
                                                  • 11691

                                                  #59
                                                  been steadily rising the side and total pretty much everywhere

                                                  pinny went to 3 and 3.5 a while ago and now is offline.
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                                                  • FindTheLock
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-27-10
                                                    • 7194

                                                    #60
                                                    I'm going to wait and bet on it through live betting. I hope there is no score for the first 10 minutes so I can get a better line on the O2.5
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                                                    • Boxing Champ
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                      • 3358

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                                      game isn't for 3 hours. Still time to move the line on it.
                                                      They don't move it for a reason... 5 Dimes never lets it get this juiced.
                                                      Unless they are afraid. If you look at it from Barca's point of view...
                                                      2-0 is not enough to stop playing, because if Al Saad scores a stupid bounce goal on a counter
                                                      anything can happen after 2-1. They will wanna be up 3 at least before they sub or relax for good.
                                                      They will probably score 3 in the first half because they will wanna rest players for Santos game.. They can score 1 or 2 by accident with 7 men in the second half... I would play -3 before Over 4....3-0 or 4-0 is a lot more feasable than 5-0, because Al Saad will not score with 15 men..
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                                                      • FindTheLock
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-27-10
                                                        • 7194

                                                        #62
                                                        Heavily juiced lines win too. Line movement in soccer is totally meaningless. This isn't like other sports. Ask lakerboy he has tried to use line movement in NFL, CFB, and Soccer with no success whatsoever. It really does work in the NBA for some reason though.
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                                                        • FindTheLock
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-27-10
                                                          • 7194

                                                          #63
                                                          moving an actual spread or total in soccer has more impact than on any other sport for the books. -3 and -3.5 is a huge difference. If you move half a point in any other sport it isn't such a big deal.
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                                                          • Boxing Champ
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-11-11
                                                            • 3358

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                                            Heavily juiced lines win too. Line movement in soccer is totally meaningless. This isn't like other sports. Ask lakerboy he has tried to use line movement in NFL, CFB, and Soccer with no success whatsoever. It really does work in the NBA for some reason though.
                                                            Why don't they move it from -3(-141)and Over 4(-151)???
                                                            It always moves by this point..
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                                                            • baskets
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-24-11
                                                              • 11691

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                                              They don't move it for a reason... 5 Dimes never lets it get this juiced. Unless they are afraid. If you look at it from Barca's point of view... 2-0 is not enough to stop playing, because if Al Saad scores a stupid bounce goal on a counter anything can happen after 2-1. They will wanna be up 3 at least before they sub or relax for good. They will probably score 3 in the first half because they will wanna rest players for Santos game.. They can score 1 or 2 by accident with 7 men in the second half... I would play -3 before Over 4....3-0 or 4-0 is a lot more feasable than 5-0, because Al Saad will not score with 15 men..
                                                              you sound convinced of a Barca romping. I concur
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                                                              • FindTheLock
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-27-10
                                                                • 7194

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Boxing Champ
                                                                Why don't they move it from -3 and Over 4???
                                                                they don't move it because they are either trying to lure people into thinking like you do, which helps them pay off the winners that they're juicing to high heavens, or they think they have the correct read on the game and are taking a gamble on it. If you were a book would you rather pay out -150 or +111?
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                                                                • FindTheLock
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 02-27-10
                                                                  • 7194

                                                                  #67
                                                                  they probably think even if they moved it the bets would still come in on barca and the over, but the juice would have to be lowered if they moved it to a higher number, which would cost them more money.
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                                                                  • FindTheLock
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 02-27-10
                                                                    • 7194

                                                                    #68
                                                                    for example -3-150 or -3.5-110... the person betting on the -3 thinks his team is going to win by 4 or more. otherwise he would never lay 3. So if his team wins 4-0 then the books have to pay more money on the lower vig.
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                                                                    • BaronMunchausen
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 07-04-10
                                                                      • 82

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by FindTheLock
                                                                      they probably think even if they moved it the bets would still come in on barca and the over, but the juice would have to be lowered if they moved it to a higher number, which would cost them more money.
                                                                      Great point. Agree 100%.
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                                                                      • Boxing Champ
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-11-11
                                                                        • 3358

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by FindTheLock

                                                                        they don't move it because they are either trying to lure people into thinking like you do, which helps them pay off the winners that they're juicing to high heavens, or they think they have the correct read on the game and are taking a gamble on it. If you were a book would you rather pay out -150 or +111?
                                                                        They don't pay out of their pocket... They pay winners with losers money and take interest on the difference between -150 and +110.. They don't care who wins, they need the same amount on both sides..
                                                                        Gambling 101...don't you know that??
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