good luck to all. hope my -3 at least pushes. I just can't see a 2 goal win.
but I've been wrong before, especially in soccer
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EaglesPhan36
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12-06-06
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#37
Every game you bet on is guess work Clockwork. Whether we admit it or not. In the end, you either guess right or wrong.
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The Special One
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#38
has anyone here ever watched a game without betting it?
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FindTheLock
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#39
yeah, gambling is gambling in the long run, but you can wait for an edge and you will be more successful then trying to bet on heads or tails.
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FindTheLock
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#40
Originally posted by The Special One
has anyone here ever watched a game without betting it?
I watch a lot of games I didn't bet on, but I always have a pick bet to see if I would have made the right decision. So gambling was involved for sure...
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The Special One
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#41
really? personally, i dont bet the games that im going to watch, most of the time..
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EaglesPhan36
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#42
Majority of the soccer I bet on, I don't get to watch.
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FindTheLock
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#43
GL fellas! No matter what you bet on or if you watch, I hope you all win in the long run!
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#44
think it will be 2-0 minimum at the half. then there will definitely be a goal in the 2nd half. 3-0 absolute minimum and Al Jazeer doesn't sniff a goal
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FindTheLock
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#45
I am going to be honest and I could be very wrong, but I think it will be 3 or 4-0 in the 1H.
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#46
sound focking great to me, sir.
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southpaw74
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#47
Barcelona -3 and over 4 is juiced like crazy at 5dimes. I'm torn
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#48
how can you lose the -3? has to be worst case you get a push
2-0, 2-1 ---------------- almost impossible
3-1 --------------------- probably only way to lose the -3
3-0, 4-1 ---------------- at least a push
4-0, 5-1, 5-0, etc ------ golden
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FindTheLock
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#49
I think final score will end up being 5-0 or 6-0.
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BaronMunchausen
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#50
Barcelona should cruise to a 4 or 5 goal victory in my opinion. I don't expect Al Sadd to score, so I'm staying away from the Over 4 just in case Barca only nets 4. Here's an interesting quote from an article I read earlier....
"Al Sadd set up the glamour tie after hitting the African champions Esperance on the break in their quarter-final, beating the Tunisians 2-1 despite having only four shots on goal all game."
Barca -3 for me.
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BaronMunchausen
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#51
Even if Barca takes it easy, I have a hard time believing they won't win by 4+ if Al-Sadd could only manage 4 shots on goal against Tunisia. How many opportunities will they have against a team like Barca? 2-3?
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#52
I agree.
What I don't understand is how on back to back days these picks can be so obvious and clear and then just routinely hit... ????
I mean, you flash the card of Mont/Santos games in front of anybody and they'd instinctively have to go Mont and Santos on the sides and over/over on the totals. And then like clockwork they easily cruised on in.
And here it is again. A plain as apples game of Barca/Al Whatever and it looks clear as day. Hope I don't screwed on this. I just can't imagine Barca w/ just 1 or 2 goals in this game. How would that be possible?
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Boxing Champ
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03-11-11
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#53
Guys this tournament is about humility too.
That's why there's hardly any fouls.
Barca has nothing to prove. Al Saads coach said that the only way they have a chance is if they field 15 players.. They might just score 2 or 3 and then just pass, or let in a goal of mercy..
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Boxing Champ
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#54
Originally posted by baskets
I agree.
What I don't understand is how on back to back days these picks can be so obvious and clear and then just routinely hit... ????
I mean, you flash the card of Mont/Santos games in front of anybody and they'd instinctively have to go Mont and Santos on the sides and over/over on the totals. And then like clockwork they easily cruised on in.
And here it is again. A plain as apples game of Barca/Al Whatever and it looks clear as day. Hope I don't screwed on this. I just can't imagine Barca w/ just 1 or 2 goals in this game. How would that be possible?
I bet you lost your obvious Monterey over Reysol too...and the Over
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FindTheLock
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#55
if Al Sadd got to play with 15 i would still pick Barcelona haha
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BaronMunchausen
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#56
Originally posted by Boxing Champ
Guys this tournament is about humility too.
That's why there's hardly any fouls.
Barca has nothing to prove. Al Saads coach said that the only way they have a chance is if they field 15 players.. They might just score 2 or 3 and then just pass, or let in a goal of mercy..
That's really the only thing that worries me. The fact that they have absolutely nothing to prove and they know Al-Sadd has zero chance of beating them, so they allow a late sympathy goal or stop trying after they take a 2 or 3-0 lead.
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Boxing Champ
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#57
But you notice the total hasn't moved...
It's juiced like crazy on the Over at -151 now...but it didn't move to 4.25 like it usually does..
It stays juiced to the outrageous amount and Under is only +111 not +130
usually that means Under is the play...
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FindTheLock
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#58
game isn't for 3 hours. Still time to move the line on it.
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#59
been steadily rising the side and total pretty much everywhere
pinny went to 3 and 3.5 a while ago and now is offline.
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FindTheLock
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#60
I'm going to wait and bet on it through live betting. I hope there is no score for the first 10 minutes so I can get a better line on the O2.5
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Boxing Champ
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#61
Originally posted by FindTheLock
game isn't for 3 hours. Still time to move the line on it.
They don't move it for a reason... 5 Dimes never lets it get this juiced.
Unless they are afraid. If you look at it from Barca's point of view...
2-0 is not enough to stop playing, because if Al Saad scores a stupid bounce goal on a counter
anything can happen after 2-1. They will wanna be up 3 at least before they sub or relax for good.
They will probably score 3 in the first half because they will wanna rest players for Santos game.. They can score 1 or 2 by accident with 7 men in the second half... I would play -3 before Over 4....3-0 or 4-0 is a lot more feasable than 5-0, because Al Saad will not score with 15 men..
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FindTheLock
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#62
Heavily juiced lines win too. Line movement in soccer is totally meaningless. This isn't like other sports. Ask lakerboy he has tried to use line movement in NFL, CFB, and Soccer with no success whatsoever. It really does work in the NBA for some reason though.
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FindTheLock
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#63
moving an actual spread or total in soccer has more impact than on any other sport for the books. -3 and -3.5 is a huge difference. If you move half a point in any other sport it isn't such a big deal.
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Boxing Champ
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03-11-11
3358
#64
Originally posted by FindTheLock
Heavily juiced lines win too. Line movement in soccer is totally meaningless. This isn't like other sports. Ask lakerboy he has tried to use line movement in NFL, CFB, and Soccer with no success whatsoever. It really does work in the NBA for some reason though.
Why don't they move it from -3(-141)and Over 4(-151)???
It always moves by this point..
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baskets
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11-24-11
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#65
Originally posted by Boxing Champ
They don't move it for a reason... 5 Dimes never lets it get this juiced. Unless they are afraid. If you look at it from Barca's point of view... 2-0 is not enough to stop playing, because if Al Saad scores a stupid bounce goal on a counter anything can happen after 2-1. They will wanna be up 3 at least before they sub or relax for good. They will probably score 3 in the first half because they will wanna rest players for Santos game.. They can score 1 or 2 by accident with 7 men in the second half... I would play -3 before Over 4....3-0 or 4-0 is a lot more feasable than 5-0, because Al Saad will not score with 15 men..
you sound convinced of a Barca romping. I concur
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FindTheLock
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#66
Originally posted by Boxing Champ
Why don't they move it from -3 and Over 4???
they don't move it because they are either trying to lure people into thinking like you do, which helps them pay off the winners that they're juicing to high heavens, or they think they have the correct read on the game and are taking a gamble on it. If you were a book would you rather pay out -150 or +111?
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FindTheLock
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#67
they probably think even if they moved it the bets would still come in on barca and the over, but the juice would have to be lowered if they moved it to a higher number, which would cost them more money.
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FindTheLock
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#68
for example -3-150 or -3.5-110... the person betting on the -3 thinks his team is going to win by 4 or more. otherwise he would never lay 3. So if his team wins 4-0 then the books have to pay more money on the lower vig.
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BaronMunchausen
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07-04-10
82
#69
Originally posted by FindTheLock
they probably think even if they moved it the bets would still come in on barca and the over, but the juice would have to be lowered if they moved it to a higher number, which would cost them more money.
Great point. Agree 100%.
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Boxing Champ
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03-11-11
3358
#70
Originally posted by FindTheLock
they don't move it because they are either trying to lure people into thinking like you do, which helps them pay off the winners that they're juicing to high heavens, or they think they have the correct read on the game and are taking a gamble on it. If you were a book would you rather pay out -150 or +111?
They don't pay out of their pocket... They pay winners with losers money and take interest on the difference between -150 and +110.. They don't care who wins, they need the same amount on both sides..
Gambling 101...don't you know that??