Howard webb bet 650k on spain

cornerkick · 07-12-10, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by mihaita666

correct...the red card for de jong was like obvious, I still can;t understand why didn;t he give him the red card.

Well, it's the world cup final after all. He didn't give any red cards or penalty in the tournament until then, so he wanted to keep a "friendly" attitude I guess.

oakland23 · 07-12-10, 03:53 AM

It was not football, i was fight. This match was very irritating. Howard Webb is overvalued.
Viktor Kassai from Hungary is the best referee !

phenomenon · 07-12-10, 03:53 AM

he should have showed second yellow card to Robben,coz hit ball after wishtle,but he didnt,he showed xavi with same reason.

Gandev · 07-12-10, 04:10 AM

There were tons of referee mistakes in this world cup, but not in this game.I don't know why people are against Howard Webb!

cornerkick · 07-12-10, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by Gandev

There were tons of referee mistakes in this world cup, but not in this game.I don't know why people are against Howard Webb!

There were some mistakes, no doubt about that, but overall Webb was fair, and I don't know who would have done a better job. The game would have been crap if he showed 2 red cards in the first half, and in the end he would have lost control of the game. Glad it didn't happen.

diamond · 07-12-10, 04:38 AM

Webb did an excellent job. Netherlands should hav been redcarded at least two times more. I like the fact that he used common sense, and didnt send of Robben when he kicked the ball away, even though it should have qualified to 2nd yellow.

noyb · 07-12-10, 05:40 AM

the referee was awful, though i doubt whether it unfluenced the outcome of the match

obv, de jong should have been a red in the first half and v bommel could have been a red. van bommel should have been a red for his 2nd foul in the 2nd half, iniesta should have been a red for the way he reacted when the ball was long gone. webb caught that but only warned him, god knows why. pujol should have been a red on his foul on robben. robben decides to not go down, missed the chance which wasn't even a chance by that time anymore, since pujol was hanging onto his trousers for 5 seconds. if you want to encourage players not taking a dive all the time, it was utterly ridiculous webb did nothing and let that go, as the whole stadium saw it.

so you have a ref who's giving out yelows that should have been a red, on the other hand he was also giving out yellows for stuff that was hardly a foul in the first place. the v bronckhorst yellow card was ridiculous, one of other dutch and one of the spanish cards as well. the first heitinga card: no way the ref actually saw that. only reason he gave that because the spanish player was faking near-death on the pitch. also, he gave out 2-3 yellows for protesting, which in my book is also the sign of a very weak referee. a good ref tells the guy to calm down, uses his charm instead of using cards. if a player really goes all-out out of line, give him a red, but that wasn't the case here.

the second heitinga-card was ofcourse correct, but i'm sure i'm not the only one seeing remarkable similarities between the pujol-shirt pulling and robben trying to stay on his feet (which webb let go), and on the other hand this situation in which the spanish player dropped himself to the ground as fast as he could when he felt the slightest of touches (and webb did give the card). way to go in the fight against players taking a dive all the time. apparently it does pay with this ref.

he also got a 100% clear corner-kick wrong (no idea how he could have missed that) which later proved decisive, and whether or not the pass to guy that gave the pass to the guy that scored was offside, i still don't know as fifa refused to show it (only the final pass which was clearly not offside). all in all, no way the ref did well.

comments like "have you ever tried refereeing yourself" are bs ofcourse. i tried to play soccer, but am way worse at it than the 22 guys on the pitch yesterday, still, i feel i'm entitled to comment on how they played. i'm guessing i'd also be a way worse referee than this guy. regardless, this was supposed to the best referee in the world and he ****** up. he was lucky the best playing team ended up winning it, so there seems to be some justice in it all, but anyone claiming he did "a good job" should re-watch the game.

u21c3f6 · 07-12-10, 05:48 AM

What is the chance that there will be replay for major decisions? It seemed to me (a novice) that too many games were unduly influenced by bad or no calls.

Joe.

stc9357 · 07-12-10, 05:52 AM

It wasn't quite balanced glad I didn't put money on the game, he gave yellow cards three minutes late, saw no fouls when there were clearly fouls there.

SmokyMcPot · 07-12-10, 05:55 AM

Spain deserved a red card too :-S IMO they even argued more then the dutch players... I just hate that

always complaining even if they know it's wrong... and ALWAYS giving a sign it's their kick-off/corner or whatever even if they clearly touched the ball... Makes them look ridiculous

COOGI · 07-12-10, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by SmokyMcPot

Spain deserved a red card too :-S IMO they even argued more then the dutch players... I just hate that

always complaining even if they know it's wrong... and ALWAYS giving a sign it's their kick-off/corner or whatever even if they clearly touched the ball... Makes them look ridiculous

..yup both side deserved a red card .not just one side only 4 mins left why a red card ... why not pk kick ??

Socrates · 07-12-10, 09:19 AM

******* Robben, I can't believe his missed his one on one vs Casillas.

Cid · 07-12-10, 09:53 AM

Howard webb bet on spain.........ARE YOU RETARDED?

jennahazeplays · 07-12-10, 09:59 AM

nnot best job ive seen

ejfel01 · 07-12-10, 10:27 AM

i don't think refs are allowed to place bets

pauloctopus · 07-12-10, 10:34 AM

i predict spain and they win wasnt fixed im the best capper at SBR 12 of 12 look my spreadsheet

http://pauloctopus.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

vitalyo · 07-12-10, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by ejfel01

i don't think refs are allowed to place bets

No they DON'T .It's a bull shit trend.

COOGI · 07-12-10, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by ejfel01

i don't think refs are allowed to place bets

.they will not tell u if they place a bet ....they have friends family...etc....

COOGI · 07-12-10, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by noyb

the referee was awful, though i doubt whether it unfluenced the outcome of the match obv, de jong should have been a red in the first half and v bommel could have been a red. van bommel should have been a red for his 2nd foul in the 2nd half, iniesta should have been a red for the way he reacted when the ball was long gone. webb caught that but only warned him, god knows why. pujol should have been a red on his foul on robben. robben decides to not go down, missed the chance which wasn't even a chance by that time anymore, since pujol was hanging onto his trousers for 5 seconds. if you want to encourage players not taking a dive all the time, it was utterly ridiculous webb did nothing and let that go, as the whole stadium saw it. so you have a ref who's giving out yelows that should have been a red, on the other hand he was also giving out yellows for stuff that was hardly a foul in the first place. the v bronckhorst yellow card was ridiculous, one of other dutch and one of the spanish cards as well. the first heitinga card: no way the ref actually saw that. only reason he gave that because the spanish player was faking near-death on the pitch. also, he gave out 2-3 yellows for protesting, which in my book is also the sign of a very weak referee. a good ref tells the guy to calm down, uses his charm instead of using cards. if a player really goes all-out out of line, give him a red, but that wasn't the case here. the second heitinga-card was ofcourse correct, but i'm sure i'm not the only one seeing remarkable similarities between the pujol-shirt pulling and robben trying to stay on his feet (which webb let go), and on the other hand this situation in which the spanish player dropped himself to the ground as fast as he could when he felt the slightest of touches (and webb did give the card). way to go in the fight against players taking a dive all the time. apparently it does pay with this ref. he also got a 100% clear corner-kick wrong (no idea how he could have missed that) which later proved decisive, and whether or not the pass to guy that gave the pass to the guy that scored was offside, i still don't know as fifa refused to show it (only the final pass which was clearly not offside). all in all, no way the ref did well. comments like "have you ever tried refereeing yourself" are bs ofcourse. i tried to play soccer, but am way worse at it than the 22 guys on the pitch yesterday, still, i feel i'm entitled to comment on how they played. i'm guessing i'd also be a way worse referee than this guy. regardless, this was supposed to the best referee in the world and he ****** up. he was lucky the best playing team ended up winning it, so there seems to be some justice in it all, but anyone claiming he did "a good job" should re-watch the game.

Naz18 · 07-12-10, 10:17 PM

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_6257692,00.html

waco66 · 07-12-10, 10:54 PM

de jong was lucky

AlphaOmega · 07-12-10, 11:04 PM

This guy sucked big balls and gave too many yellow cards out. that guy who drop kicked that dude from spain should have earned a red card.

SoV · 07-12-10, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by pauloctopus

i predict spain and they win wasnt fixed im the best capper at SBR 12 of 12 look my spreadsheet

http://pauloctopus.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

Webb did his best to not give any red cards, which is the way a ref in the final should go about with his job.

lakerboy · 07-12-10, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by SoV

Webb did his best to not give any red cards, which is the way a ref in the final should go about with his job.

So if a red card offence occurs a ref ( because it is the final) is supposed to ignore it and hope things clear up ? A supposed top ref should follow the rules and do what is required and not what you said Sov.

MyLuck888 · 07-12-10, 11:30 PM

Seemed like good officiating to me

spongerat · 07-12-10, 11:31 PM

good luck ya'll

SolidDala · 07-13-10, 07:52 AM

So many players that lost big on NETHERLANDS for sure in here. Ref did great job, the dutch were only interested in chopping legs, Spain at least tried to reach the ball with their tackles.. They can be glad he didn't send someone out in halftime, he did not cause he didn't wanna ruined the final...

hansmuller8615 · 07-13-10, 07:56 AM

It was a joke
soccer is a joke
Neths is a joke
webb too

The Baron · 07-13-10, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Smogs

What about Robben fukkin up his 1 on 1 in the 60th minute, it wasn't the refs fault

All this should have, would have crap is stupid. Its true there are some bad calls but thats just the way soccer is. I'm sure at one point or another the Dutch team benefited from a bad call. It all balances out.

thespeculator · 07-13-10, 08:07 AM

he did his best not to give a red , how de jong didn't get one proves my point,

Wilforth · 07-13-10, 08:50 AM

How was he on Spain when Netherlands deserved to have a man sent off in the 1H? Who didn't see De Jong's karate kick on Xabi Alonso?

MarlinsFan2212 · 07-13-10, 10:13 AM

Yea De Jong should have gotten a red no doubt.

blackf1re · 07-13-10, 10:32 AM

Webb did ok.

The things he did wrong favoured Holland.