joe hart best goalie in premier?

Vaughany · 01-12-14, 10:37 AM

On his day yeah.

atofsu32111 · 01-12-14, 11:00 AM

boom ** all day

Vaughany · 01-12-14, 11:00 AM

Tiote had a wonder goal wrongly disallowed

Merkel · 01-12-14, 11:03 AM

I like Mignolet, but his form has slumped recently.......

plekz · 01-12-14, 11:04 AM

Controversial, not wrongly. Offside players keeping City from blocking the shot. This ain't hockey.

Vaughany · 01-12-14, 11:11 AM

Was only gouffran in offside position, no?

swordsandtequila · 01-12-14, 11:28 AM

Was wrong. Hart was in no way obstructed, nor was the ball touched. He couldn't have made that save if he was 12' tall. Head referee screwed up. End of story.

plekz · 01-12-14, 11:34 AM

Sure you know better brosif then commentators in four different languages.

swordsandtequila · 01-12-14, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by plekz

Sure you know better brosif then commentators in four different languages.

You used the same argument yesterday, and it holds up today. Both live and in studio agreed it was a botched call, head referee could have and should have ruled it a good goal. Post the video and let others weigh in, "brosif". Oh, and f*k off you condescending prick.

Giz · 01-12-14, 11:41 AM

yea hes mint

reason why england will win the world cup

cheers

plekz · 01-12-14, 11:46 AM

Stick to picking fights on internetforums with people you know the chances of it actually happening (and you being in the same country as them) is 0,1%.

Trust me i'd talk the same shit to your face, and call you a bitch to your face aswell. Italian did not, Swedish did not, and so on.

Giz · 01-12-14, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by plekz

Stick to picking fights on internetforums with people you know the chances of it actually happening (and you being in the same country as them) is 0,1%.

Trust me i'd talk the same shit to your face, and call you a bitch to your face aswell. Italian did not, Swedish did not, and so on.

Bruv, what the hells happened to you?? You never used to have so much hate in you what happened??? Lose a big bet or something...relax have a drink bask in our brotherly community and enjoy the winnazzz some of us are giving out all bout sticking together, now wut ya avin???

horja1 · 01-12-14, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Giz

yea hes mint

reason why england will win the world cup

cheers

swordsandtequila · 01-12-14, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by plekz

Stick to picking fights on internetforums with people you know the chances of it actually happening (and you being in the same country as them) is 0,1%.

Trust me i'd talk the same shit to your face, and call you a bitch to your face aswell. Italian did not, Swedish did not, and so on.

Picking fights? You're the one who goes out of his/her way to act like an ass. Whatever you think big boy, fact is it was a bad call. Done arguing with you, it's getting boring.

plekz · 01-12-14, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Giz

Bruv, what the hells happened to you?? You never used to have so much hate in you what happened??? Lose a big bet or something...relax have a drink bask in our brotherly community and enjoy the winnazzz some of us are giving out all bout sticking together, now wut ya avin???

wasn't talking to you. it was to the faggit with the ironmaiden av. and i don't drink alcohol as i am not a weakminded individual that needs such stuff to ''relax'' or ''enjoy'' myself.

edabramov · 01-12-14, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by plekz

wasn't talking to you. it was to the faggit with the ironmaiden av. and i don't drink alcohol as i am not a weakminded individual that needs such stuff to ''relax'' or ''enjoy'' myself.

must be fun at parties

Giz · 01-12-14, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by plekz

wasn't talking to you. it was to the faggit with the ironmaiden av. and i don't drink alcohol as i am not a weakminded individual that needs such stuff to ''relax'' or ''enjoy'' myself.

again,

wut ya avin???

krigaren · 01-12-14, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by plekz

Stick to picking fights on internetforums with people you know the chances of it actually happening (and you being in the same country as them) is 0,1%.

Trust me i'd talk the same shit to your face, and call you a bitch to your face aswell. Italian did not, Swedish did not, and so on.

The swedish commentators all thought it was a wrong call, heavily aswell. Dunno what you are on about.
It was 100% wrong to dissallow that goal, that was 100% a correct goal.

plekz · 01-12-14, 03:04 PM

Prolly talking about the multiple of streams i had up, you know like i said initially? bit challenged in the reading department are we? Since if you had even a moderate comprehension level one would suggest you wouldn't have had to write that post. And I in turn would not have had to waste seconds of my life on you.

15 seconds of fame are up though, so back into nothingness you go.

Savvy.

atofsu32111 · 01-12-14, 03:38 PM

i dont get why it should be a goal? The guy was so offside i dont get what is different in this situation

swordsandtequila · 01-12-14, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by atofsu32111

i dont get why it should be a goal? The guy was so offside i dont get what is different in this situation

1) Didn't touch ball
2) Didn't interfere or obstruct the vision of the goalkeeper

Assistant never raised the flag for offsides; wasn't until after conferring with the head ref the call was made. But don't take my word for it, google "Tiote disallowed goal" and you'll get your answer.

zizoudane10 · 01-14-14, 06:46 AM

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swordsandtequila · 01-14-14, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by zizoudane10

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What's up Zizou. Wrong thread?

zizoudane10 · 01-14-14, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by swordsandtequila

What's up Zizou. Wrong thread?

Nah man. These are the actual numbers of all goalies that played in the first half of this season. Was just referring to the initial question "joe hart best goalie in PL?" So, based on the actual overall numbers (from this season), he isn't.

swordsandtequila · 01-14-14, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by zizoudane10

Nah man. These are the actual numbers of all goalies that played in the first half of this season. Was just referring to the initial question "joe hart best goalie in PL?" So, based on the actual overall numbers (from this season), he isn't.

Gotcha. Thread got so off track forgot the original question

zizoudane10 · 01-14-14, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by swordsandtequila

Gotcha. Thread got so off track forgot the original question

plekz · 01-14-14, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by swordsandtequila

1) Didn't touch ball
2) Didn't interfere or obstruct the vision of the goalkeeper

Assistant never raised the flag for offsides; wasn't until after conferring with the head ref the call was made. But don't take my word for it, google "Tiote disallowed goal" and you'll get your answer.

reason the goal was dissallowed was because of Gouffran keeping Hart from moving, and if you read the FIFA offside rules you can clearly see that it includes being offside either in terms of blocking view for the GK OR keeping the GK from action. now is it likely Hart would have saved that ball, no probably not, but that doesn't justify Gouffran's action and HIS action came before the goal.

Vaughany · 01-14-14, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by plekz

reason the goal was dissallowed was because of Gouffran keeping Hart from moving, and if you read the FIFA offside rules you can clearly see that it includes being offside either in terms of blocking view for the GK OR keeping the GK from action. now is it likely Hart would have saved that ball, no probably not, but that doesn't justify Gouffran's action and HIS action came before the goal.

yes, Hart could argue that he stayed on his spot because he thought Gouffran was going to attempt to re-direct trajectory of ball, so technically you are correct

azsportswin · 01-14-14, 01:04 PM

Hart didn't move from his spot from the beginning of the shot. I think he was screened and didn't see the ball until it was through the maze of players between him and the shooter, and it was hit with such pace and great placement that it was too late to do anything. I don't think the players in offside position had any affect on his lack of reaction at all.....I think it would have gone in regardless......it was a good goal in my opinion.

plekz · 01-14-14, 05:45 PM

it doesn't matter what you ''think'' the rules clearly stipulate that you arent allowed to interfere in the game in any way from an offside position in such a manner that it either blocks LINE OF SIGHT or blocks movement. In this case there is more then ample room that Gouffran being there hindered Hart's movement and since that action took place BEFORE the goal it supersedes the shot. '

thank fucc you aint out there reffing any games.

azsportswin · 01-14-14, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by plekz

it doesn't matter what you ''think'' the rules clearly stipulate that you arent allowed to interfere in the game in any way from an offside position in such a manner that it either blocks LINE OF SIGHT or blocks movement. In this case there is more then ample room that Gouffran being there hindered Hart's movement and since that action took place BEFORE the goal it supersedes the shot. '

thank fucc you aint out there reffing any games.

Settle down....we're just offering opinions here....it's simply my opinion that Gouffran was far enough away from Hart that it did not hinder his movement. Watch the replay, especially from behind the goal....it's clear Hart doesn't see the shot go off as he is being screened by his own players and he freezes. Sure, he raises his hand and looks at the AR after the ball goes in the net because he sees the offsides player, but players are trained to do that. There was no hinder by Gouffran because he was far enough away and there was no movement from the keeper to hinder. Again, just my opinion.

swordsandtequila · 01-14-14, 06:42 PM

These guys break it down nicely, and as evidenced by the video Hart's movement was NOT hindered by Gouffran. From the moment the cross first hit the turf until Tiote's shot Gouffran is moving away from Hart. It's understandable (but inexcusable) why the ref made the decision, doesn't mean it's right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0rzWoApvwWY