The pros are getting smoked today in the early games

icandothis · 12-06-15, 06:41 PM

Please put "pros" in quotes.
There isn't a tout in existence that is an actual sharp.
Sharps don't need to sell picks because they make a living winning their bets.
Take Pregame for instance. With the possible exception of Dave Essler, there is not one guy on the site that is positive units ($$$) for the year. They are just degenerate gamblers who spin their results and market their plays to other degenerate gamblers who are too lazy to handicap games for themselves.

tbone123 · 12-06-15, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by icandothis

Please put "pros" in quotes.
There isn't a tout in existence that is an actual sharp.
Sharps don't need to sell picks because they make a living winning their bets.
Take Pregame for instance. With the possible exception of Dave Essler, there is not one guy on the site that is positive units ($$$) for the year. They are just degenerate gamblers who spin their results and market their plays to other degenerate gamblers who are too lazy to handicap games for themselves.

Exactly. I paid for thousands of services in my 15 year span of betting and can say maybe 3 have made me some cash. All the names being released on SBR are the touts that market very heavy in this business and you will never win with these guys. If you're going to let someone do your homework then find a person in the regular forum who is having a good year and has a reputable name and follow. 99.9% of the cappers posted on this service thread will never make you money long term.

Wojo · 12-06-15, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by icandothis

Take Pregame for instance. With the possible exception of Dave Essler, there is not one guy on the site that is positive units ($$$) for the year.

I don't recall Dave Essler doing well in previous years. What sports is he doing well in now and what sports did he do well in the past?

Just curious for the reason stated earlier.

Rob7168 · 12-06-15, 11:28 PM

pnly on occasion do 1 of these guys go on a Major winning streak and the rest BURY you...Trust me,,, play the games yourself this way when it loses you only have yourself to blame. These guys do NOT own a crystal ball at home they are ONLY giving you their OPINION on a game ,,That's it. If you can see a PRO in that matter as a "pro Opinionater" you might stop paying someone that is going to keep promising you millions. They are ONLY making money off of you.

tbone123 · 12-06-15, 11:41 PM

Originally posted by Rob7168

pnly on occasion do 1 of these guys go on a Major winning streak and the rest BURY you...Trust me,,, play the games yourself this way when it loses you only have yourself to blame. These guys do NOT own a crystal ball at home they are ONLY giving you their OPINION on a game ,,That's it. If you can see a PRO in that matter as a "pro Opinionater" you might stop paying someone that is going to keep promising you millions. They are ONLY making money off of you.

Safe to say 99.9% of these guys only make money off the amount they get paid from their clients. I had services i was with in the past say im sorry i didn't respond to your email i work from 9-5 lol. I said that had to be one of the biggest eye openers to me. I now ask before i sign up not to send me free plays but to send me a betting ticket of some form. Not only does most people have other jobs but most of these guys don't even bet the plays they are giving you.

icandothis · 12-07-15, 05:20 AM

Baseball only

redbird71 · 12-07-15, 09:59 AM

T bone, who would you recommend following in the forum for hoops, both college n pro?

jsmanuel · 12-07-15, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by redbird71

T bone, who would you recommend following in the forum for hoops, both college n pro?

Honestly man, I couldn't find a consistent tout winner. I been posting the daily picks with results from TeamRankings and I am doing quite well.

teamejd · 12-07-15, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by icandothis

Please put "pros" in quotes.
There isn't a tout in existence that is an actual sharp.
Sharps don't need to sell picks because they make a living winning their bets.
Take Pregame for instance. With the possible exception of Dave Essler, there is not one guy on the site that is positive units ($$$) for the year. They are just degenerate gamblers who spin their results and market their plays to other degenerate gamblers who are too lazy to handicap games for themselves.

He is pretty spot on. The only reason people sell plays is because there is a market for it.
A lot of people that follow service plays don't want to invest anytime in it.
Just look at all the threads with guys asking for services with these great records that can't be proved.

Not sure what it is now. But years ago being a handicapper on Pregame you only got 35% of each pick sold.
If that is the same today none of these guys are doing this as a full time job