Factsman also likes the under 140 in the NC State/LSu game.
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peppers
SBR Rookie
05-09-10
29
#3
He said over in his video
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jakid
SBR High Roller
02-19-15
104
#4
Lol. Thanks. 🙋
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#5
Factsman is huge fade, he is such a hack. The guy never wins. Somebody over at his forum said he is down 40+ units since January.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#6
Factsman excuse for yesterday's loss below. He is one sad handicapper. Claims he lost 2 million dollars during the bowl season. He's one of the biggest phoneys in the biz. With that being said, you can make some money fading his putrid picks. He'll have another loser for tomorrow.
"I watched this game at 6 am edited.
and watching it without sound
I really don't know how this game didn't go over 150
then I see the score..........and said what are they subtracting points.
the last 6 minutes with missed free throws and missed shots was brutal
we get em on Saturday"
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#7
FACTSMAN is one of the biggest scams the handicapper business has ever seen. A complete loser who can't keep a record or pick a game to save his life.
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#8
Factsman Is Not A Bad Guy
Your entitled to your opinion about Factsman......
But I for one have enjoyed the fellowship of his Forum. If you know him at all. He will tell you that you will win with him and lose with him. It's Gambling Not Fortune Telling.
He offers more on his Forum than just selling picks. He could care less whether you buy his package or not. I won 18-0 MLB with him a few yrs back and it was ALL FREE PICKS.
Sounds like your Bank Roll has Busted that is your fault. Not anyone else's
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#9
Factsman is not a bad guy
If you take the time over a 10 year period of time and hang out on a Sports Forum and get to know guys that hang out on the Forums. You will realize that is why Joe has his own Forum. It is Bash Free. When I first signed up on his forum. I was actually (Discouraged) by Joe to purchase his package. He told me it is not for everybody and that I would be wasting my time buying his package. That is not something most Touts do. I have joined several through the years who every time you call they want to sell you an upgrade. Joe does not care whether you buy his package or not. He does this for a fun hobby. You had to seek him out to purchase his package. Joe has give out 1000's of Free Picks on his Video's and Site. A few years ago 18-0 MLB..ALL FREE.... Joe is as real as it gets. He let's you know when he wins and loses.. If you know Joe he would be just as happy for you if you Faded his Plays and made Money. He is just that kind of guy... If you bought his package and lost. I hate that. I've been there with several Touts and then I have the right to not purchase the packages after that. It is Gambling. Joe is not a scumbag. He is a pretty good guy that enjoys our hobby... He does Lose.. He does Win..... The Forum is full of great guys. You never are forced to buy Package or are arm twisted. I respect you opinion but Joe doesn't deserve this bashing.
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slider34
SBR Rookie
02-06-09
22
#10
Come on Vols...
Of course he wants everyone to buy his picks. I've checked in from time to time on his site for the past 5 years and when he gives out free picks, it's to promote his site. Nothing wrong with that but don't act like what he is doing if for you. He wants to drive people to his site to have them sign up and fund the links on his offshore accounts. You realize he gets a nice kickback for that right? Marketing 101 is to sell a product, run "specials" and act like you don't need to sell your product. Of course he does, that's why he has a site.
His forum is bash free because he bans anyone that doesn't suck his dick and act like he is a god. He bashes other posters from time to time and it's his site, he has that right. But again, I can see you envy the guy but he's in this to make money. If he won at a 70% clip, why would he need to sell picks for 4 or 5 guys? Why would he need to get people to sign up for bookmaker? You think those bonuses he gives out comes out of his pocket? Don't be stupid.
Also realize his site used to be hosted by bookmaker. Then you wonder why he promotes that site? Do you realize JustBet was bought my bookmaker and now he pimps that book?
So he bets 20K a game yet sells months of his picks for $300. Open your eyes, good guy or not he is just trying to make a buck
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#11
It's funny how the people that stick up for Joe Apricena have never purchased his "Factscard." The only people that praise this clown are the poor ass wannabes that want free plays, free brackets and a friend.
This guy is a loser, nobody that purchased his card in the past ten years is a repeat customer. He has ZERO repeat customers, hence the stupid Whip it Out Wednesday and Factsman Friday videos. He is great at marketing, I'll give him that with the million dollar challenge, the videos, corny forum stories, etc but he is a LOSER when it comes to making you money. Nobody is worse. Ben Burns, gridirongold they all suck but Fatcsman takes the cake because he LIES.
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#12
Factsman Is Not A Bad Guy
Joe is a Good Guy In A Bad Business And Industry... I Can Understand If You Want To Document A Losing Streak. I Get Your Point. Joe I Am Sure That He Benefits From Referrals. But Anyone Can Become An Affiliate. I Don't Blame Anyone For Not Signing Up For A Tout Who Is Losing. Play Em or Fade Em. Joe Win Or Lose Is A Good Guy His Forum Is Entertaining. Lots Of Other Sharp Cappers Share Info. It's A Cool Forum. And Not One Time Have I Been Strong-Armed To Buy His Package. I've Been Hanging Out 10 Years And Joe Gives Out Some Good Capping Information.
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#13
Factsman Is Not A Bad Guy
As far as poor azz wannabe's wanting Free Picks... Badger consider where you are at. "A Service Play Forum". Every one on here is here for that Reason. People plot and put their money together to purchase these Tout's Plays. Sometimes You Win- Often Times You Lose. It Is Gambling Without A Doubt. Hell yeah Free Plays and coordinating with other Forum Members is what it is all about. It's a hobby for most of us. Unless your a certified Gambling Addict who has been derailed. Picks, Moves, and Plays are just educated opinions or else these guys would be giving us the Mega Ball Numbers with their wise and astutue paranormal abilities. These guys are not prophets. It is Delusional and Irrational to give any of the Touts Money. That's why most of us are here in the Service Plays.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#14
He's 0 - 2 again today in XMLB down 2.25 units. Keep talking.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#15
For somebody that's been in the business for 30 years you'd think Joe Apricena would have a bigger spine. The guy is the biggest hypocrite cry baby in the tout business. Complaining about people calling his family names then he tells people to fuk their grandmother on Easter. The guy is a loser.
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ripemup
SBR High Roller
12-20-14
116
#16
LMAO guys a loser. he brought his daughter into the videos and all that. It was all his fault. Hes dealing with gamblers and people constantly losing money on his videos. what did he expect? lol he should have the common sense to leave his family out of his posts and videos and treat it like a business. He has noone to blame but himself. Either he should have provided winning plays(which he didnt or hasnt) cuz noone has anything to say or complain about if your plays are winning!! (but they are not.) The other option was to leave his family far far away from all this which also he didnt. Hopefully he learns now. And he "claims" to be in this industry for long long time, then he should know the people and the circumstances involved and should have bigger balls to handle this by now. Leave his plays cuz they are posted and records are posted here now and all that so anyone can do their due diligence and research and take from the records what they want. What this shows is this guy who "claims" to be in this field for "years" had someone talk shit about his family(which he brought on to himself) and cried and ran away as if this is the first time someone has done this. Im sure many have talked shit in different manner and different ways before cuz his record is not at all great or nothing to write home about lol whether hes a good guy or a saint or whatever noone gives a shit. If he cant handle it, should have never been in it in the first place.
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Watergate
SBR MVP
12-16-12
1261
#17
If he is really that bad then post his picks and we can fade.
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pippy
SBR Hustler
12-08-10
75
#18
Tried to listen to one of his videos..painful..fuc this fuc that etc..sounds like a buffoon..
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#19
Factsman Is Not A Bad Guy
It takes a coward to send out death wishes and to disrespect a family man who has a precious 4 yr old child and you call her a whore just because you don't like his service that is just trash and I call you out for that. It shows you have no clue what kind of guy Joe is. He is a great care taker of his wife and daughter and that behavior is worse than any lost wager period. Just my thoughts and view. Its not worth discussing. The Very Best are lucky to hit 58% You can be upset with a Tout or Forum its just not cool to threaten innocent people over your inability to pick Winners
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ripemup
SBR High Roller
12-20-14
116
#20
Again..noone would have threatened or whatever to his wife or kid etc if he had the common sense to keep his family out of this. That waS his own doing and his fault. The person whoever threatened or abused or whatever was definitely wrong and shouldnt have done it. BUT this is gambling and he knows the industry and the people hes involved with on the day to day very well by now im sure. He didnt use the best of his judgement to keep his family out of it. Picks should have been secondary. Family and common sense should have been PRIMARY.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#21
Joe Apricena is a bold faced LIAR and a hypocrite. I highly doubt anybody said or emailed him anything about his family. He threw a similar same temper tantrum a few years ago.
When things don't go his way he flips his lid and starts whining like a little kid. He claims somebody trashed his family and then posts for people to fuk their grandmother on Easter. He's a disgusting excuse for a human, does nothing to help society. He is unstable, and I think this situation is getting he best of him.
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sdtnvols42
SBR Hustler
08-25-08
76
#22
Joe is filming a live video and his precious daughter just walks up and says hello to her dad and waves at the camera
. COME ON MAN!!!
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bigjoey
SBR Hustler
03-26-11
87
#23
Glad you guys realize this clown is a fraud, tried his service a while back and he sucks. Thats why he don't want his plays out there or it will crush his little hustle he got going. Never liked hearing him always with a different excuse.
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pippy
SBR Hustler
12-08-10
75
#24
[QUOTE=sdtnvols42;23781545]It takes a coward to send out death wishes and to disrespect a family man who has a precious 4 yr old child and you call her a whore just because you don't like his service that is just trash and I call you out for that. It shows you have no clue what kind of guy Joe is. He is a great care taker of his wife and daughter and that behavior is worse than any lost wager period. Just my thoughts and view. Its not worth discussing. The Very Best are lucky to hit 58% You can be upset with a Tout or Forum its just not cool to threaten innocent people over your inability to pick Winners[/Q
Agree with above regarding family..wife and kids are off-limits wasn't aware of this ,shame on anyone hurling insults at children..
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#25
You're exactly right BigJoey.
The jig is up for this loser and now he's going underground for a while until (he thinks) this will blow over. As I said earlier, he did this same thing a few years ago.
Same bullshit story...he doesn't need this headache, guys are threatening my family, go fuk yourself, I'm a millionaire yet I live in a dumpy town home, go fuk yourself, haters hating for no reason, my plays were bad this month but I won 20 straight 6 years ago, go fuk yourself, im a mother fuc%er during bowl season, I make 25 units every year in spring training, fuk this, fuk that, I bet 30 dimes a game, etc, etc, etc.
It's all lies, it's been all lies for years and will continue to be all lies for as long as this dirtball can find an internet connection.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#26
Nobody threatened or hurled insults at his family. He is a LIAR. He's used this same lie in the past. He wants sympathy and is using the family card, which is worse than somebody actually insulting his family. The guy is a joke and a hypocrite telling people to fuk their grandmother on Easter. You guys are clueless.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#27
[QUOTE=pippy;23781955]
Originally posted by sdtnvols42
It takes a coward to send out death wishes and to disrespect a family man who has a precious 4 yr old child and you call her a whore just because you don't like his service that is just trash and I call you out for that. It shows you have no clue what kind of guy Joe is. He is a great care taker of his wife and daughter and that behavior is worse than any lost wager period. Just my thoughts and view. Its not worth discussing. The Very Best are lucky to hit 58% You can be upset with a Tout or Forum its just not cool to threaten innocent people over your inability to pick Winners[/Q
Agree with above regarding family..wife and kids are off-limits wasn't aware of this ,shame on anyone hurling insults at children..
Sdtnvols, you asshole with the stupid picture, don't accuse me of something I didn't do or say. I hate the guy but I would never say shit about his family. Don't come in my thread with your accusations.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#28
11/02/2008 Factsman. In 2008 it was his autistic son and mom. Fast forward to 2015 and now it's his wife and daughter. The bullshitter is recycling his lies. Lying about people taking shit about your family is as low as it gets and you can see for yourself who Joe Apricena really is:
THANKS JOSH
BUT IM ACTUALLY THE ANTI TOUT
I NEVER USE THE TYPICAL SPORTS PICKS TERMINOLOGY
SHIT IM ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE
I TELL GUYS TO TAKE THERE FOOT OFF THE GAS
I TELL MY GUYS TAKE BABY STEPS
IF I HAVE A BAD WEEK I MAKE POSTS AND STICK THEM
I ALWAYS KNOW I'LL HAVE A BULLS EYE ON MY HEAD
BUT....................HERE IS WHY I LOVE THIS PLACE
YOU HAD A ROUGH WEEK A FEW WEEKS AGO
YOU DIDN'T HIDE IT
NO ONE BASHED YOU
WHAT DID THIS FORUM SAY TO YOU
JOSH...................IT HAPPENS KEEP EM COMING
AND I THINK IT MAKES YOU AND OTHERS
MORE CONFIDENT
AND CAN POST WITH OUT LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER
I MEAN.....................I DONT DO THE STU FEINER BRANDON LANG VIDEO'S
I TURN DOWN FREE PLUGS ON THESE HANDICAPPING TV SHOW OR RADIO SLOTS
I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO DIS ASSOCIATE MYSELF FROM THE DOUCHE BAGS IN THIS BUISNESS
2 THINGS ILL NEVER FORGET
AND YOU TELL ME HOW SICK THIS IS
MOST OF THE GUYS THAT KNOW ME KNOW I HAVE A 7 YEAR OLD AUTISTIC BOY................LOVE OF MY LIFE
WELL SOME ONE POSTED ONCE
"HEY FACTS YOU BETTER START WINNING...RETARDED KIDS CAN BE EXPENSIVE"
NOW LETS JUST SAY I KNOW WHO POSTED IT AND THAT MATTER IS RESOLVED
BUT WHY ????????????
WHEN MY MOM HAD A STROKE
THERE WAS A POST FACTSMAN'S MOTHER CANT SUCK MY PRICK
BECAUSE SHE HAD A STROKE
NOW WHAT KIND OF SICK PEOPLE DO THIS
....................
THE FORUM TO ME IS A HANG OUT
ITS FUN FOR ME
ITS A PLACE WHERE I MET MANY FRIENDS AND PLAN TO MEET MANY MORE
BUT ITS SAD...................THAT I HAVE TO MAKE THESE KIND OF POSTS
BUT U GUYS HERE ARE LIKE MY FAMILY
AND AS MUCH AS ALOT OF YOU GUYS THINK EVERYONE KISSES MY ASS
I GET ALOT OF THESE TOO.
IT REALLY SUCKS
JOE
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#29
Another post from 11/02/2008 by Joe Apricena. Look familiar? Same bullshit he's saying now that he used 7 years ago.
"I CAN HANDLE A BASH FROM A JERK OFF
BUT MY KID
AND MY MOTHER................CMON
AND ITS NOT LIKE THESE GUYS PLAY MY GAMES EVERY DAY
ITS A COMP PLAY
THATS POSTED IN THE FORUM
I FLAT OUT CRUSHED THE BOARD IN FOOTBALL
AND IM DEFLECTING HATE MAIL
HOW ****** UP IS THAT
AND GUYS THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDING MY FUSTRATION
ALSO
click on my link to get my 10,000 dimer play of the decade
for $9.99
LOL"
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ripemup
SBR High Roller
12-20-14
116
#30
LMAOOO No WAY!! Hes done this before? LOL Im telling you this whole thing is shady at best. I mean like i said earlier..IF....IF..hes been doing this consistently winning for long time like he says, HE of all people should know the people and the business hes involved with LOL To come out and cry bout some people threatening or talking shit bout his family who H, HIMSELF, put out there is just stupid LOL I dont get his plays or know his plays but hes doing this in a losing streak and if hes done this EXACT thing before then u gotta think....SCAM!!! LOL He gonna come back sometime in MLB in a few weeks and start something again once hes on a lil hot run. LOL Use your common sense people. Stop coming with that "oh his wife..his daughter" lOL FOH! he put em there. make better plays. this guys a quitter and shady as hell.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#31
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Joe Apricena's wrongdoings and misconduct go much deeper than using his family as chum bait.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#32
So this loser has been winning for 30 years, been selling picks for 20 years and not a single person can attest to the quality of his plays? This thread has a lot of views and not a single person can come forward with factual proof that this factscard program wins, there is no record, just a lot of bullshit and lies from him.
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#33
He's on the Yankees today at -115/-120, fade away. Play on Orioles + money.
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mp5070
SBR Hall of Famer
09-13-08
5446
#34
What does he have for today?
Thanks!
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badgers608
SBR Hustler
03-18-15
87
#35
Factsman 0 - 7 last 7 down 8 units Documented
No play today, stay tuned he'll have something for us soon.