Ras?

fuzzhit · 10-01-13, 03:56 PM

Anyone got the 3 released?

doncrizz · 10-01-13, 04:34 PM

LA Lafayette -10
Troy -3
UAB -3.5

Confirmed

Can someone post VR?

Fatjack · 10-01-13, 06:46 PM

Bump confirmed?

alamo · 10-02-13, 05:06 AM

Lines haven't moved on these so good chance people can get them if they so choose

duh_omega · 10-02-13, 06:16 AM

Can anyone confirm these? Lines havent moved much so im skeptical

doncrizz · 10-02-13, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by duh_omega

Can anyone confirm these? Lines havent moved much so im skeptical

What are you talking about? They all moved 1.5 points which is standard on sides. Troy only moved half a point from 3 to 3.5 but that's a much bigger move off a key number. these are confirmed as I stated before

alamo · 10-02-13, 07:24 AM

Thanks Don...For any of you disbelievers check Dons history. Guy doesnt bullchit.

Ferndog68 · 10-02-13, 08:56 AM

Don is a class act. I wouldn't question his post. if he says they are confirmed take it to the bank

oneguy · 10-02-13, 10:18 AM

If picks are not winning big then lines won't be moving big. Maybe??????

docholiday555 · 10-02-13, 10:28 AM

if u lose every week dont expect to move lines

Fatjack · 10-02-13, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by doncrizz

What are you talking about? They all moved 1.5 points which is standard on sides. Troy only moved half a point from 3 to 3.5 but that's a much bigger move off a key number. these are confirmed as I stated before

Thank you sir!

ANDTHEWINNERIS · 10-02-13, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by oneguy

If picks are not winning big then lines won't be moving big. Maybe??????

Handicappers have been moving lines forever. Back in the 70s it was Mike Warren, and even Doc, were moving lines, then it was Dr Bob, now it is RAS. The one thing they all have in common, the shelf life is short. Currently not counting FCS games, which are posted for the first time, the closing line value is at its lowest point ever. So it remains to be seen, is this the closing of the window of value, or is it just a temporary pulse, we shall see.

downsouth · 10-02-13, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by docholiday555

if u lose every week dont expect to move lines

Has won 3 out of 5 weeks (week 1 barely) overall up on the season 33-28. But hey, its the internet, why let facts get in the way.

gs · 10-02-13, 04:55 PM

so if you had bet $100:

33 x 100 = 3300
28 x 100 = -2800
profit +500

vip= 110/100 bet or -10 x 28 = -280

your grand profit is =$220 - ( cost of subscription) = a loss

gs · 10-02-13, 04:56 PM

ras still hasn't even helped you pay the subscription cost

matt711 · 10-02-13, 05:07 PM

RAS has been a class act...and has even answered numerous questions...maybe you should be betting a grand a game, instead of $100...

matt711 · 10-02-13, 05:09 PM

Ras sevice isnt for the $100 better.....Honestly ...who can find a better and honest service?

hallandale · 10-02-13, 05:29 PM

Season not over for them they could go 8-0 this week?

GChild · 10-02-13, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by downsouth

Has won 3 out of 5 weeks (week 1 barely) overall up on the season 33-28. But hey, its the internet, why let facts get in the way.

This guy works for ras don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors!!!!

Giroux · 10-02-13, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by gs

ras still hasn't even helped you pay the subscription cost

Do you pay the subscription costs?

Frats · 10-02-13, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by gs

so if you had bet $100:

33 x 100 = 3300
28 x 100 = -2800
profit +500

vip= 110/100 bet or -10 x 28 = -280

your grand profit is =$220 - ( cost of subscription) = a loss

If you only bet $100 a game, you shouldn't buy an RAS subscription. If you can't be near a computer during their releases, you shouldn't buy a subscription. If you only have an account at one book, don't understand how to line shop, don't understand how to beat some of the counter-measures the books will take to stop you from playing steam, don't understand variance, care more about how a capper does over one weekend than over thousands of plays, etc, then RAS isn't for you. The service is aimed at a very specific subset, and Edward always seems to be very upfront about that fact.

Frats · 10-02-13, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by GChild

This guy works for ras don't be fooled by the smoke and mirrors!!!!

or facts

gs · 10-02-13, 08:26 PM

So how many guys who follow the picks in here really can afford to but $1000 per bet, come on, these cheap bastards are in here trying to get a free pick because they think $1200 or whatever the subscription is too much. All I am saying is that if you cap your own games or follow some of the guys who are on the college football forum or nfl forum you are better off. In fact if you stop paying these guys you might even force them to discount the price. The bottom line is its your money and everyone can do what they wish. I'm not trying to be a dick just giving those guys who are looking to pay for RAS service that there are other options that happen to be free.

gs · 10-02-13, 08:29 PM

By the way if you risk $1000 per bet that would be risking a total of $61,000 to earn $2,200 still doesn't make sense.

gs · 10-02-13, 08:33 PM

I forgot to deduct the $1200 subscription. $2,200-$1,200 = $1000. Doesnt sound like its for the $1,000 bettor either.

matt711 · 10-02-13, 08:50 PM

1,000 profit after 5 weeks seems good for my pocket....as a $1000 better....they are over 55% the last 3-4 yrs..and hit around 65% the last 2 weekends....just tell me who is better

gs · 10-02-13, 09:11 PM

ok lets look at the college forum:
vegasreaper 34-16-1
firedawg 39-27-1

and these guys give us their picks for free

Ferndog68 · 10-02-13, 11:46 PM

vegasreaper is really hitting big. the 34-16-1 does not include the teasers he has also provided (at least i don't think). he is someone to tail right now.
im not sure of firedawg but might want to keep an eye on also

HilltopTony · 10-03-13, 06:11 AM

It would be interesting to see what RAS record is on the games they release as opposed to the closing lines that most bettors get on those games.

hallandale · 10-03-13, 06:38 AM

If you can't get the line he gives don't play them Ed says that vey clear. And in hoops 1000 player is up 73000 in last two years show me a capper who did that. I'm sure the clients are happy with that???

matt711 · 10-03-13, 07:40 AM

Good discussion...i have followed vegas reaper and a few other...thanks for the feedback...we all want to win...Sonnybaby,buck,etc...many good cappers here

PhilLattuca · 10-03-13, 08:24 AM

you guys know that if you just played RAS play's from reading off the boards or getting them from another board, the only difference you would lose from the subscribers is under 2% in the last 2 years.

last 2 yrs, i think 3-4 games mattered when RAS released and the closing line. beating the closing line is not as important as ppl think

sunzal · 10-03-13, 08:39 AM

Originally posted by gs

so if you had bet $100:

33 x 100 = 3300
28 x 100 = -2800
profit +500

vip= 110/100 bet or -10 x 28 = -280

your grand profit is =$220 - ( cost of subscription) = a loss

thats why he says over and over you shouldn't buy his service if you're only betting 100 a unit....only on this site does a 3 percent return on investment over the course of 6 weeks somehow makes you a loser....i guess people should just follow all those cappers who claim to win 80 percent every year...cause that's where the money is.

sunzal · 10-03-13, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by PhilLattuca

you guys know that if you just played RAS play's from reading off the boards or getting them from another board, the only difference you would lose from the subscribers is under 2% in the last 2 years.

last 2 yrs, i think 3-4 games mattered when RAS released and the closing line. beating the closing line is not as important as ppl think

I used to believe this too, but then there was a basketball run where it happened 6 times in a month....line changes matter sometimes, depending on key numbers....and it has been more than 3-4 times over 2 years...it's been about 3 per year i football and a lot more in basketball...