Please respond if you are using this service and are able to share the picks. This service seems really good but too pricey for my blood. 
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Let them put plays 10min after start like RAS then we will see how good they are????Comment -
The question was for anybody that uses the service and can share their playsOriginally posted by hallandaleComment -
says he has a spy in every forum--will track ip address and ban the snitchComment -
They dropped close to 250 units a couple of years ago, there were a couple of posters on here that ran into that Bad-luck. Buyer bewareComment -
Br has policies that might anger some people. Their rules says that no other services are allowed to join and if they join they will get banned. It also says that anyone who shares plays will be banned. If they go back with different email addresses and if they catch them as repeat offender, they simply add them to a black list without saying anything and in this black list they send random picks. This policy angers some people.Originally posted by paw
If you google bettingresource you will see many praises and some complaints. Almost all complaints in forums are from new usernames created with the intention to bad mouth br and usually these users have less than 10 posts under their belt, all bashing br, even the sbr ones, look it up. After staying away from br for a long time I finally joined and I am slapping myself for not joining earlier. Unless you are smart, almost all forums will steer you towards losing or losing path. I use few winning services and these services never get posted. I did all the research on bettingresource, i finally decided to check it out first hand by using their weekly subscriptions for few weeks. I made enough to pay for the full year subscription. SO i paid for the 52 weeks subscription out of winnings. Things are very good. Out of all the services that i use, br is way ahead and best ROI. This is not for everyone though. You have to stick to their money management and play all their plays. The results and all the plays posted in their site are real. They even have referrals from other clients such as the admin from "cleanuphitter" who can verify the results. Admins of gamelive forum (hooligans talk) can also verify the results. During my time with them, they had a big downswing (about -110 units) from april 22nd to june 16th but recovered nicely and up about 650 units with an average risk of about 7.5 units per game. They are versatile with wide range of sports and nice dog money lines.
They are by far the most profitable service this year. Like i said, you never see winning services posted here because no body wants to share winners for free and ruin it for themselves. Don't bother telling me that ras is a winner and those plays are getting posted. Honestly, is anyone winning from the ras plays when you follow from the forum posts? no body. Like i said the mass on the forums will always steer you towards losing.
Do your own research. If you are going to play bettingresource, i would highly recommend that you make sure that you get it straight from them. There are people on the internet claiming that they have br picks for cheap and they will shove you their own plays--look up bettingresource in the moneymakerforum and you will see more on this. Also, people who form buy groups or share plays will eventually get caught and black listed and you will be joining those complainers sooner or later.
And all the ras lovers and others, before you call me as a shill or working for br, please be advised that i do post on threads like this because br from time to time will ask their clients to post just to get things straighten out. For example, a while ago when something came up they asked if anyone is a poster in sbr in one of their picks email. When you say yes, they will ask you to keep an eye out and clear up certain things. I am sure there are other posters who use the service. If br sees this, they will probably ask them to chime in as well. I will alert them of this post. Their long time clients will never share the picks, so don't bother asking for to share the picks.
Finally, me post in in ras posts has nothing to do with br asking. That is me sharing my own experience because i used to use ras in the past.Comment -
Anybody that writes a novel praising a service and belittling a competitive one, raises red flags with me.
That is b.s. about ip addresses with spies on forums.
You sure sound like BR himself.
Where is BR monitored at?
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Have to agree 100% with Wojo the voice of reason here
.. Ive never seen anywhere where this service was monitored. The idea of spies and hunting IP addresses is total hogwash. This service actually started with a yahoo group that I remember. Never any documented results that could be verified so anyone wanting to waste 10000 yr on picks deserves what they are asking for
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Hence my point. In forums, the mass always steer away from winners and go towards the losers. I already mentioned few places where they are monitored and you ask the same thing. You guys are getting raised in the slaughter house, so there is no hope. Let there be mercy on your souls.Comment -
Like I said put plays out 10min after start like RAS so everybody will see if they are good or Bull shit???Comment -
I'm sorry, I just haven't been reading all of your short stories on this forum.Originally posted by 747planes
I didn't realize it would be so difficult to mention these places BR is monitored at, but instead, why don't you just write a few sentences on how ignorant people on forums are.
Good post by Hallandale.Comment -
correct . prop bet ; they have the - - - - - to do it . no - 2500 yes + 1900.Originally posted by hallandaleComment -
So, is bettingresource a scam?Comment -
Sep 30 - Oct 06: -43.04 Units
I would have hate to been on that ride!Comment -
Do you realize how easy it is for any service selling picks to post at kickoff either on their own site or twitter? All plays are then dated and time stamped......100% verifiable that nobody could dispute. No taking anyone's " word for it". No questionable 3rd party monitor.Originally posted by 747planes
Any service that claims to be transparent and accurate that doesn't do this is hiding the truth, and there is no doubt of that.Comment -
It actually speaks for them. No way it'll be posted if not true.Originally posted by dymd3zComment -
The bottom line is that BR doesn't post their plays shortly after they go off so as to be transparent. That being said there is no need for further discussion.
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Scroll down their results page and take a look in March...they had a downswing -89 units week and still rebounded nicely. Then they had a stretch where they had a similar downswing but over a span of few weeks (around april to june) and still rebounded nicely. Keep in mind that they use 1 to 10 unit scale and majority of their plays are for risk of 8 units.
Unless they have a good weekend, it looks like they will have 2nd losing week. But i am not worried. Like i said went through bigger downswings earlier in the year and they came through. Just stick to their money management.Comment -
[QUOTE=chunk;19863388]Do you realize how easy it is for any service selling picks to post at kickoff either on their own site or twitter? All plays are then dated and time stamped......100% verifiable that nobody could dispute. No taking anyone's " word for it". No questionable 3rd party monitor.
Any service that claims to be transparent and accurate that doesn't do this is hiding the truth, and there is no doubt of that.[/QUOTE
That is a great idea and would weed out the scammers.Comment -
I am going to chime in here. For years I did follow BR and for the most part they actually did pretty well indeed that is for sure. However about 2-3 years ago A poster on here that went by Trader Tom if I remember correctly had come on here and stated they were down -250 units + and were getting killed. What was ironic is that during that time BR Took down their records off of their site which they have never done before and it was down for quite sometime. So therefore the red flags went up EVERYWHERE FOR THEM........................ This is a fact. Now with that being said They seem to be back in action doing well. I just don't know anytime a site does that their is a needle in the haystack and they had plenty of time to come publicly and state why they did that. Not to mention for years they gave away a free week or two of picks to show everyone what was UP ? They stopped that also ? Edward from RAS Doesn't hide from Anyone ? Why does BR DO ????? For a site that charges 2to 5k a year you would think they would Come Public with all these that has went on for years now ? So far Not one WORD........................Comment -
Guys getting bludgeoned past few months. Hundred dollar a unit bettors are down a new car.Comment -
[QUOTE=clockwise1965;19871444]I once brought that up to a paid service to be more transparent and post plays at start. His reply was people would then make live bets on his plays for freeOriginally posted by chunkComment -
Exactly............................ All of these sites Hide behind their So-called customers. Again I give kudos to Edward at RAS at least he will Post up and be a Man about it. BR Hasn't said one peep about Anything.Comment -
BR record from Oct 28th till now....OUCH! Well at least they are honest. I feel bad for anyone following them though
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Nothing to worry about here .... LOL .... last 10 weeks, 7 losers -276 units and 3 winners +30. Big player like you going $100 a unit but using there wonderful picks and money management system is only down $24,000 ...... did you buy the lifetime deal? Find something else to do than post about BR.Originally posted by 747planesComment -
WOW.....................
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They use a standard 10 unit pick rather than normal 1 unit. So $100 flat bettors would be -$2.400, not -$24.000. -24 unit is something almost every capper have already gone trough.Originally posted by majord
I subscribe to them and of course I'm not happy with the recent record since October, but I do think they win in the long run (see they results since 2006). Moreover, even in the recent downsizing they had a +CLV, which is a good sign.
I'm not here to support them, but considering they are transparent, odds are easy to get, and the average profit is very reasonable, I think they are one of the few honest services around there.Comment -
tough dent in my bankroll. i use their conservative 3% max bet so i didnt get wiped out. even if they went on a -333 downswing i still withdrew some of the winnings before the downswing started. they are still up for the year even with this crazy downswing. i am hanging in and i am confident they will come through. i have seen their ability to pick winners.
November was very bad for many pros. I know few pros who lost a lot in November. Keep in mind that Brandon Lang had an amazing November...that should say something lol
Br avoided big downswings for many years and finally they encountered it, it happens to all cappers. i would have been pissed if i joined between september and november but i have been with them for more than a year and i have seen that they can win and i am up with them, so i am not bad. i am a little disappointed but like the poster mentioned above they are still very respectable for their transparency and straight forward answers to emails. odds are easy to get too. Only thing that they bothered me was that they went against their own philosophy and did some chasing. Average units risked during the past two months is much higher than their usual average. They tried to add the 10 unit picks to get a lift (chasing) and it only made it worse. Number of units risked during october/november is very unlike bettingresource. i hope they take that as a lesson learned and stick to their philosophy of patience and discipline.
This is a lesson why betting more than 2 to 3% per bet longterm is a bad idea even if the capper is good.Comment -
br operates differently. they don't care about explaining to the public. they care only about their clients...i have always gotten straight forward explanation or response whenever i emailed them. you cannot compare br to ras. ras charges thousands for half a season of single sport and you barely break even because you cannot get the lines. the limits on these games are low too. with br you get the entire year and all sports. also ras and his shills doing public work only makes the line work. br works only with their loyal clients and they stay under the radar and that is why their lines are easy to get. you will never see idiots posting br plays. if they do post it will be no more than for a week or two because they get banned. these banned clients usually get added to a black list when they try to join agian with different names and they are people like trader tom complaing they are losing. since i joined br they have always been accurate with results and the current downswing was the worst.Originally posted by paw
i highly doubt you are a client because what you posted is not accurate. have you seen all their plays in the last 2 to 3 years or are you posting based on what you heard from banned clients on forums?
why would a service come on a forum like this and explain themselves. maybe if they are desperate for clients they might but from my dealing with br, they don't care and they only closely deal with clients. they don't send out crap promotional emails ever other week or every other day, infact they never do unless your subscription is about to expire. when you go to their site, you don't see any spreadsheets or graphs or any hypes. they simply put up all their plays in the results section and let the user decide whatever.
comparing br to ras is like comparing bmw to a pontiac. even with the big downswing br is up 400 units. thats about 40 to 50 units for a regular 1 unit bettor depending on how you calculate. tell me one year where ras was up that many units. RAS's total subscription for cbb and cfb is over $7k...and thats only half a season on each sport lol. with br you can get entire year of everything at $1999.Comment -
lets see...
RAS
CBB subscription 2500..
LAST 5 years = 1854 plays released.. or 370 plays per year on the average
UNITS won = 167 or 1670 based on 1 unit or 10 unit per play ($1000) = $167,000
all documented on their website.
BETTING RESOURCE
REG joe subscription.. 1,999 per year no neg units guarantee ( they have other options depending on types of guarantee, up to 9,999)
2 to 3 10 units plays per month are also included.
WISEGUY 10 units plays subscription 2500 per month or 30,000 per year
20 to 30 plays per month or 240 to 360 per year or 1800 plays at 30 plays per month for 5 years.
UNITS won = 400 units (jan 1st till now).. all plays. wiseguy plays included.
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99% of RAS plays are 1 unit plays.... its really the only way to document true winning percentage.
While bettingresource might be up 400 or 40 units or what have you.. they've had 970 plays since jan 1st ( we still have 4 weeks to go in the subscription year). Thats equivalent to 3 seasons of RAS CBB. Not only that.. their 10 unit WISEGUY plays are included in the 400 units won total, which they charge 2500 per month.
I'm sure they are a decent service, better than most.. they do document wins or losses from beginning of the year from what i can see.
but you're making it seem like they're shit dont stink and it was proven years ago that it did stink, they removed their losing record from their website.
but please... lets not compare a BMW to a Ferrari.Comment -
Thank you JOJOTOO................................. .... I WONT BEAT UP ON 747 As he seems like he ok guy I am assuming he doesn't work for BR as I always give everyone the benefit of the doubt. With that being said my whole point has been that BR has always Hidden behind their customers on all avenues and or related to them. My point is for a company such as them that Has been around since 2005 they should at least have the respect/courtesy of coming clean when need be. As for the fact that anyone whom posts their plays gets a lifetime ban OK ????? Any top capping service would do that. That isn't anything new to anyone at all. However they use that gimmick as a hitch to threaten everyone ? Make no sense to me. Anyhow in regards to their records and what they have gone thru again they should have came public about that. And for the record there is NO DOUBT They have also used shills to promote their site over the years as matter of fact on Talkgold.com they did it years ago. No reason to use 747 or anyone else for that matter. As far as RAS I do agree you cannot compare BR to RAS............................. Edward hasn't hidden behind anyone and I am no fan of his either, but at least he comes CLEAN............................Comment -
jojotoo....
I used to be a RAS client before BR. I did win with them at the beginning but over the past few years their service is nothing special. They may claim wins but the lines are hard to get and clients don't have the same profit as they report. Even when i stay in front of the computer, the limits are low when they release the picks, especially college football. also most of their profit that you mentioned is from cbb totals from the past, that market is very small with very small limits and the lines moves 3 to 4 points. but if they made you money and then its all good. didn't work out for me. br is way more profitable and suitable for me.
i always get br lines and their profit is much better. i don;t subscribe to their wise-guy 10 unit picks. i only subscribe to the regular picks. the 400 unit profit is only regular picks. they sometimes throw in a 10 unit picks with their regular picks here and there and those picks are included in the results. but over the past few weeks they released all majority of their 10 unit plays to everyone to get a lift from the downswing but it only made the downswing even worse. its pointless talking to you guys because you guys clearly have no idea about br since you are not getting their plays. only br clients will understand what i am saying. the people who complain here don't even use the picks
i highly doubt br uses shills because i get called as a shill. so i am guessing that anyone who praises a service is labelled as a shill here because many other sites use shills. anyways, i am going to drop out of this convo because some of you are clueless and you talk about a services without even trying them. services br are meant for pros not amateurs who busts their nuts during hot streaks and lose their wallet during losing streaks.Comment -
I can only go by what I see..
First 2 weeks of bettingresource plays have 8 10 unit plays. Since reg subscribers are only given 2 -3 10 unit plays per month, im going to assume WISEGUY plays are included in their 400 units won.
It is tough trying to follow ras play per play.. but lets not assume ALL of his clients DONT have the same profits as ras reports, youre generalizing without any facts other than your own personal experience. Ive personally never had a problem getting ras release lines or limits on games but i have been cut off from multiple books. That's just from my personal experience. Im sure others have different views.
this not about which service is better than the other..
it has to do with bettingresource not being upfront. I can only go by what I see. Honestly though, they should give you a lifetime subscription for wasting so much time (which you'll never get back) in here defending them. And if they do, share it with us !!
Anycase, I dont feel like taking this any further.. all the facts are there.
Good luck to you sir..Comment -
$2500 per month for wiseguy picks?!
Okay, I don't feel sorry for people who sub to their service, I think I got a bridge to sell them. Wow. I'm willing to bet most people on this forum don't even clear 2k in profit per month. I only know maybe one guy on this forum who regularly makes that much profit per month and it's only cause he's got a big bankroll, it's not because of capping skill. Plus, who the hell wagers 10 units on one game with 20-30 plays per month? One bad run and you are screwed big time.
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You need to be wagering a lot for either service to make sense.Comment
