Is IC winning percentage only 30% on football plays this year?

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  • robertfabs
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    • 01-09-13
    • 32

    #36
    You have SEC and IC loves the SEC(Alabama) because he is from there. Doesn't IC go to florida? Sec re-read all your posts. Go look and see why anyone with a half of brain can see you are IC or work for docs. You will fight tooth and nail my friend. You always seem to find ways of making money with IC every day while im begging for change under the under path, near the bridge. IC won and i lost. He got my money that ill never get back. I get free plays lol. woohoo
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    • sunzal
      SBR MVP
      • 10-13-10
      • 1245

      #37
      why is it whenever someone defends a capper they have to be that capper? i've followed many in my life, and i assure you once you like someone you want to defend them----that doesn't mean you are that guy....people defend others every day in the real world----but i guess for conspiracy theorists like this the real world doesn't matter
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      • secisgreatkobsux
        SBR MVP
        • 06-13-10
        • 2231

        #38
        Originally posted by robertfabs
        You have SEC and IC loves the SEC(Alabama) because he is from there. Doesn't IC go to florida? Sec re-read all your posts. Go look and see why anyone with a half of brain can see you are IC or work for docs. You will fight tooth and nail my friend. You always seem to find ways of making money with IC every day while im begging for change under the under path, near the bridge. IC won and i lost. He got my money that ill never get back. I get free plays lol. woohoo
        Wait, you say I'm IC because I love Alabama. Then you say I'm IC because I go to Florida? What the hell are you talking about? How can a guy be a Alabama Fan and a Florida fan? That's like an oxymoron. You are making no sense here. You're like pulling for straws out of thin air.

        I'm not making money with IC dingle-berry I just play his big plays now. I have no idea what your problem is with me. If you have a problem with IC take it up with and not me dip$hit. I am sorry you lost but what the hell do I have to do with it? haha.
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        • robertfabs
          SBR Rookie
          • 01-09-13
          • 32

          #39
          Originally posted by sunzal
          robertfabs,

          did you honestly just create an account so you could come on here and have this meaningless argument with SEC and throw around stupid conspiracy theories about SEC being IC that have already been said about 20000 times?
          That'sssssss right! He annoys the he ll out of me. When you lose you vent in some way. This guy is always winning. Hes never upset. He somehow always find a loop hole of winning with IC that no one else found or sees. He bets lappys, big plays, and always comes out a winner. Meanwhile IC clients are down 20k and counting. IC is just laughing and finds ways to try and bury his clients even more. Will he have a winning seaosn in NBA OR COLLEGE Basketball? Absolutely not.
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          • secisgreatkobsux
            SBR MVP
            • 06-13-10
            • 2231

            #40
            Originally posted by robertfabs
            That'sssssss right! He annoys the he ll out of me. When you lose you vent in some way. This guy is always winning. Hes never upset. He somehow always find a loop hole of winning with IC that no one else found or sees. He bets lappys, big plays, and always comes out a winner. Meanwhile IC clients are down 20k and counting. IC is just laughing and finds ways to try and bury his clients even more. Will he have a winning seaosn in NBA OR COLLEGE Basketball? Absolutely not.
            You're mad because I bet above my means on his Green Bay play, the only big play he played last weekend and won? You're mad because a fellow gambler bet and won money?

            Dude, if you have a problem with IC that's fine, no skin off my back, but stop accusing of $hit that's been recycled over and over again here. Its getting old.
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            • robertfabs
              SBR Rookie
              • 01-09-13
              • 32

              #41
              Originally posted by sunzal
              why is it whenever someone defends a capper they have to be that capper? i've followed many in my life, and i assure you once you like someone you want to defend them----that doesn't mean you are that guy....people defend others every day in the real world----but i guess for conspiracy theorists like this the real world doesn't matter
              To defend a capper or service is energy. Why waste energy on defending someone who you don't know? To inform people? If a capper is on a great run people might bring it up hey hes not bad he 30-12 this season or something like that. But to defend a guy who always loses is fishy. Most people who defend are defending themselves, plain and simple.
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              • Raiderguy101
                SBR MVP
                • 12-20-11
                • 2569

                #42
                For the record I don't think SEC is IC, but I'm positive he's affiliated somehow. You CANNOT care about someone as much as you do to not be.

                And SEC why fall for the bait? It's clear somebody started a thread and username to annoy you. When I first saw the thread I knew exactly you'd get involved.

                And Robert, the winning % isn't as important as the year result. For example you can hit 40% in baseball and still make money. The only thing that matters is the WHOLE season and not some streak.
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                • robertfabs
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 01-09-13
                  • 32

                  #43
                  Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
                  You're mad because I bet above my means on his Green Bay play, the only big play he played last weekend and won? You're mad because a fellow gambler bet and won money?

                  Dude, if you have a problem with IC that's fine, no skin off my back, but stop accusing of $hit that's been recycled over and over again here. Its getting old.
                  No im mad because i can't win with IC but somehow you always find a way to win with him. How in the world is it possible you now every game he wins? And lay off all his losers? You found a loophole. You and IC are the only 1's winning somehow but you two arent the same? Baffles me..
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                  • secisgreatkobsux
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-13-10
                    • 2231

                    #44
                    Originally posted by robertfabs
                    To defend a capper or service is energy. Why waste energy on defending someone who you don't know? To inform people? If a capper is on a great run people might bring it up hey hes not bad he 30-12 this season or something like that. But to defend a guy who always loses is fishy. Most people who defend are defending themselves, plain and simple.
                    I'm not defending the capper moron. I'm defending me on this board because you accused me of being IC and I'm tired of it. And it makes me a bit irritated that a random percentage comes up with no facts. Raider and I might disagree with numbers but the key is we HAVE numbers because we legitimately track. But I don't care if you have a problem with IC, don't go around saying something about me when you can't back it up. And Raider I have affiliation with IC or Docs and that's ridiculous too.
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                    • robertfabs
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-09-13
                      • 32

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Raiderguy101
                      For the record I don't think SEC is IC, but I'm positive he's affiliated somehow. You CANNOT care about someone as much as you do to not be.

                      And SEC why fall for the bait? It's clear somebody started a thread and username to annoy you. When I first saw the thread I knew exactly you'd get involved.



                      And Robert, the winning % isn't as important as the year result. For example you can hit 40% in baseball and still make money. The only thing that matters is the WHOLE season and not some streak.
                      I just wanna how is this guy winning? How is Sec winning and we are all losing but yet he is not IC- The man who took my money in return of lifetime picks
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                      • secisgreatkobsux
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-13-10
                        • 2231

                        #46
                        Originally posted by robertfabs
                        No im mad because i can't win with IC but somehow you always find a way to win with him. How in the world is it possible you now every game he wins? And lay off all his losers? You found a loophole. You and IC are the only 1's winning somehow but you two arent the same? Baffles me..
                        I stopped playing his plays dude but do post his plays and I've seen the writing on the wall at least this season with him. Unless he shows me something different I can't play his plays with confidence. Big plays I will because he's generally better with them. I know every game he wins because I'm a client dingbat. And who said I laid off losers during his pitiful football run for 2 weeks. I got burned with them so I stopped playing them and decided to just do the bigger plays.

                        Stop saying I am winning with IC. I'm not. Get that through your skull head first.

                        I just play his big plays now until I can see something more positive from him.
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                        • secisgreatkobsux
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-13-10
                          • 2231

                          #47
                          Originally posted by robertfabs
                          I just wanna how is this guy winning? How is Sec winning and we are all losing but yet he is not IC- The man who took my money in return of lifetime picks
                          Read above post. I'm not winning. You get that? I'm not winning. I won with Green Bay last week because it was a big play of his. If you understand this english statement than reply.

                          You get it?

                          I'm not winning overall.
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                          • robertfabs
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 01-09-13
                            • 32

                            #48
                            Doc has the twist IC make you a small fortune but what he doesn't tell you SEC is that you need to start with a large one!
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                            • robertfabs
                              SBR Rookie
                              • 01-09-13
                              • 32

                              #49
                              Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
                              Read above post. I'm not winning. You get that? I'm not winning. I won with Green Bay last week because it was a big play of his. If you understand this english statement than reply.

                              You get it?

                              I'm not winning overall.
                              If he goes 2-0 one day this month i guarantee you rode them plays to the moon. You found a loophole and i wanna know it. You did it Sec, you broke the code. Im like the guy on the commercial with the gambling problem and the insufficient funds. I should wave to the camera and say thanks IC
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                              • secisgreatkobsux
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-13-10
                                • 2231

                                #50
                                Originally posted by robertfabs
                                Doc has the twist IC make you a small fortune but what he doesn't tell you SEC is that you need to start with a large one!
                                This was actually kind of funny. Yea man he's losing this year overall and not like years' past when he was a lot better. You were probably frustrated that you lost and I don't blame you. I have no problem with this post because you didn't attack me with some falsehood with it. Good luck today dude.
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                                • secisgreatkobsux
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 06-13-10
                                  • 2231

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by robertfabs
                                  If he goes 2-0 one day this month i guarantee you rode them plays to the moon. You found a loophole and i wanna know it. You did it Sec, you broke the code. Im like the guy on the commercial with the gambling problem and the insufficient funds. I should wave to the camera and say thanks IC
                                  Dude relax. You're upset and lost your cookhole because I bet his Green Bay play and won and posted that I won? Seriously man? One gambler is typically happy for another gambler. I haven't figured out $hit. I've lost money with IC this year. I've paid for his plays significantly more than you did. I did make some money back on the Green Bay play.

                                  It's hard talking to someone who is not listening. What don't about I didn't make money with IC this year do you not understand?
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                                  • tjfny
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 02-06-12
                                    • 451

                                    #52
                                    sec...you are a client of ic?
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                                    • robertfabs
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                                      • 01-09-13
                                      • 32

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by secisgreatkobsux
                                      Dude relax. You're upset and lost your cookhole because I bet his Green Bay play and won and posted that I won? Seriously man? One gambler is typically happy for another gambler. I haven't figured out $hit. I've lost money with IC this year. I've paid for his plays significantly more than you did. I did make some money back on the Green Bay play.

                                      It's hard talking to someone who is not listening. What don't about I didn't make money with IC this year do you not understand?
                                      He 0-5 last 2 days but i can't be that mad i won on his Green Bay over the weekend.
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                                      • robertfabs
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                                        • 01-09-13
                                        • 32

                                        #54
                                        Say something bad about ACE ACE and MATT will show up.
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                                        • secisgreatkobsux
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 06-13-10
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by robertfabs
                                          He 0-5 last 2 days but i can't be that mad i won on his Green Bay over the weekend.
                                          If you bet those 5 plays than you should be mad. I didn't.

                                          I'm not on ANY of his plays today except for the Gotw he put out. I'm not on any of his college baskets or the other nba play.

                                          This means I'm on 1 play. Capish? So if he wins that game today then I make up some ground with him today. If he loses that play I go 0-1 irrelevant of what he does on the other plays today.
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                                          • tjfny
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 02-06-12
                                            • 451

                                            #56
                                            are you a client of his?
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                                            • Kubie217
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-22-12
                                              • 635

                                              #57
                                              Anyone have ferringos plays today?
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                                              • OpiateBank
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-22-10
                                                • 2485

                                                #58
                                                Nobody fronts or shills for Mr. Ferringo. Robert is a stand up guy, always was , and comes on here to defend himself or bash himself more than anyone could. Unlike the smirking idiot he works with that claims he doesnt bother with sentiment on posts because his results speak for him. Calling roberfabs a shill is extremely offensive to Mr.F . Robert uses his own name when he posts, unlike the cowboy that now must resort to shills and other deceptive means like his tout kind usually does. Lay off rfab.
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                                                • alexboy-sport
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 10-26-10
                                                  • 301

                                                  #59
                                                  are you guys going to get married soon ?
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                                                  • Big Tebowski
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-13-11
                                                    • 269

                                                    #60
                                                    Just to clear up some possible misinformation out there: First to disclose any sort of conflict of interest I do not currently follow IC's picks, but did in the years past so I honestly don't know how he is really doing right now.

                                                    I live in Atlanta and work in medical research. The handicapper who goes by IC actually went to medical school here at the same place I work, and graduated from medical school in 2009. He currently works in medicine and previously had a sort of controversial medical blog that he updated regularly back when he was in medical school indiancowboy which is where he started using the nickname Indian Cowboy.

                                                    IC used to post his pics for free on a messageboard he was in charge of capperslounge He then started a website called whowillcover and ended up selling it to Steve Budin (who works with Lang and Al DeMarco). Then he was hired by Wunderdog sports. Wudnerdog created a site called toptencappers.com, and he led toptencappers in sales. He always wanted to work for Doc Sports and was offered a job with Doc Sports after leading toptencappers in sales. Interestingly, at Docs sports he doesn't get docked pay or lose money when he is on losing streaks. What happens is Docs is very much about customer service and so they will offer free picks (sometimes even from other cappers of theirs) until the customer starts making money. This way they (hypothetically) keep customers around for longer periods of time. However, IC does get really upset when he loses. I'm not sure how accurate his stats on his site and videos are, but every handicapper has ways of making it look like they haven't lost that much.

                                                    I really doubt he has a "ghost" account as he currently spends the majority of his time practicing medicine and researching sports, although he does read SBR forum posts occasionally (or he used to). The only time he ever posted on messageboards was when he was in charge of capperslounge where he used to post his picks for free (with the username "indiancowboy"), and where he first discussed and developed his "active dog" theory.

                                                    :::my 2 cents:::
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                                                    • Raiderguy101
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-20-11
                                                      • 2569

                                                      #61
                                                      Interesting big tebowski. I'm not a doctor but I can only imagine it would be hard to do that profession and cap games at the same time... Let alone 7 sports. Interesting read, thanks.
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                                                      • Saltbagger
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                                                        • 12-20-11
                                                        • 43

                                                        #62
                                                        So in summary....

                                                        1) No one knows or has proven anything more then they knew before this thread.

                                                        2) We've confirmed there's a lot of angry people sitting at computers with too much time on their hands.
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                                                        • Big Tebowski
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                                                          • 12-13-11
                                                          • 269

                                                          #63
                                                          2 years posting and I get my first infarction for that, wow...
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