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    ESPN to have new streaming service

    The Walt Disney Company, under extreme pressure to address threats to its vast television business, unveiled its answer on Tuesday: two Netflix-style streaming services.
    “I would characterize this as an extremely important, very, very significant strategic shift for us,” Robert A. Iger, Disney’s chief executive, told analysts on a conference call to discuss quarterly earnings. Underscoring the need for Mr. Iger to reposition his company for growth, Disney reported a slight decline in revenue and a 9 percent drop in net income.
    The two still-unnamed streaming services — one built around sports programming from ESPN, the other on Disney and Pixar movies and television shows — will be powered by BamTech, a technology company that handles direct-to-consumer video for baseball teams and HBO, among others. Disney paid $1 billion a year ago for a 33 percent stake in BamTech. On Tuesday, Mr. Iger announced that Disney had accelerated an option to spend $1.58 billion for an additional 42 percent share.
    Disney’s move online could put the company in conflict with Netflix, which will lose access to new Disney and Pixar films, and with cable providers, which pay Disney handsomely for the right to distribute ESPN and other channels. Mr. Iger said Disney had not yet talked to cable providers. He added, however, that he had “all the confidence in the world” in Disney’s ability to maintain favorable deals with them.
    The ESPN streaming service will arrive early next year, Mr. Iger said. It will include baseball, hockey, tennis and college sports — about 10,000 regional and national events in its first year. Users will be able to access the service through an enhanced version of ESPN’s current app, which includes news, highlights and scores. People who pay to receive ESPN the old-fashioned way (via a cable or satellite provider) will be able to access standard ESPN programming through the same app.

    Mr. Iger said Disney had lately noticed “a dramatic increase in app-based media consumption,” and not just for its own offerings.
    Disney will also offer a separate entertainment-oriented streaming service. (With traditional cable hookups, people are usually forced to pay for sports channels even if they do not watch them.) It will arrive in 2019 and provide exclusive access to new Disney films, including a sequel to “Frozen,” a live-action version of “The Lion King” and “Toy Story 4.” (Netflix currently has rights to new Disney-branded films; Disney will take back those rights.)
    The Disney-branded entertainment service will also include a vast amount of library content, including movies and television programming from Disney Channel, Disney Junior and Disney XD. Mr. Iger said that Disney would also make a “significant” investment in original movies and shows for the service, which will not include advertising.
    Mr. Iger said that Disney had not decided whether to include films from its Marvel and Lucasfilm (“Star Wars”) labels, in part because of their different fan bases.
    “It’s possible we will continue to license them to a pay service like Netflix, but it’s premature to say,” he said. “There has been talk about launching a proprietary Marvel service and ‘Star Wars’ service.” He added, however, that Disney was cautious about stand-alone services for those film brands, in part because a large amount of content would be needed to satisfy subscribers.
    Disney declined to say how much subscriptions would cost. Mr. Iger said the goal was a price low enough to encourage widespread adoption but not so low that it would cannibalize traditional cable and satellite subscriptions. In the past, Mr. Iger has hinted about a “dynamic” model, with viewers able to pay based on how much they want to watch.

    In some ways, Disney is late to this party. CBS, for instance, introduced a direct-to-consumer subscription streaming service in 2014. But Disney is a media superpower, and its decision to aggressively pursue streaming could speed the entertainment industry’s adoption of the platform.
    “No one is better positioned to lead the industry into this dynamic new era,” Mr. Iger said, noting his company’s trove of popular content and unrivaled connection to its audience — particularly children, who are a huge driver for streaming services.
    Most analysts responded favorably, but Disney’s stock price declined 4 percent in after-hours trading, to about $102.95. The reaction might have been better had Disney not simultaneously reported lackluster quarterly results. Netflix shares declined more than 3 percent after hours, to $172.53.
    For the last two years, as the cable business has dealt with a loss of subscribers, Mr. Iger has not been able to convince investors that ESPN, the company’s longtime growth engine, will keep chugging away. As Wall Street has continued to fret, Disney has found itself at the center of speculation about ways to keep its programming relevant in the online age. Some suggested it should buy Netflix outright or consider selling itself to Apple.
    Meantime, cord-cutting continues to affect ESPN. Traditional subscriptions declined 3.5 percent in the most recent quarter; in the year-ago period, ESPN had a 2 percent decline.
    For its fiscal third quarter, the company had a profit totaling $2.37 billion, or $1.51 a share, compared with $2.6 billion or $1.59 a share, a year earlier. Disney had revenue of $14.2 billion in the quarter, down slightly from a year earlier.
    Adjusting for a one-time charge related to a legal settlement, Disney had per-share earnings of $1.58 in the most recent quarter. Analysts had expected $1.55.
    Among the biggest challenges for Disney in the quarter were costs at ESPN, which recorded about $400 million in incremental expenses because of a new contract with the National Basketball Association. As a result, operating income at Disney Media Networks, which includes ESPN, fell to $1.84 billion, a 22 percent decline.
    Expenses also increased at Walt Disney Parks and Resorts, which opened an attraction in Florida based on “Avatar” and brought one of the Disney cruise ships in for refurbishment. But the theme park unit nonetheless reported an 18 percent increase in operating income, to $1.17 billion, because of the timing of the Easter holiday and improved results at overseas parks, including Disneyland Paris.
    Disney’s movie studio had a difficult quarter. Its operating income fell 17 percent, to $639 million, because of a lineup of films that could not match last year’s highs. In the most recent quarter, Disney released “Cars 3,” “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales” and “Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.” In the year-ago quarter, the studio’s blockbusters included “Finding Dory,” “The Jungle Book” and “Captain America: Civil War.”

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    huge news

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    Espn could broadcast from my living room for free and I wouldn't watch it.

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    Wow. This is the beginning of the end of cable TV packages. This is a big move.

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    No football or hoops at this time = ��. The college sports they would show are hockey, bases and lacrosse.

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    It is huge news... but I feel that this will be a bust as well. The entire network has been ran like sh#$ for the last 2-3 full years. It was their own doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    It is huge news... but I feel that this will be a bust as well. The entire network has been ran like sh#$ for the last 2-3 full years. It was their own doing.
    No, it is hugely popular. The problem is the people that don't watch sports. They are disconnecting cable. Every time one disconnects ESPN loses $10 per month. They are going to have to make the people that watch ESPN which is less than half of people pay more.

    The younger generation has little interest in sports and is not paying for TV.

    DISHTv already has a package with no ESPN. This is really going to rock their world because people will not have to get cable or dish to watch ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R40 View Post
    No, it is hugely popular. The problem is the people that don't watch sports. They are disconnecting cable. Every time one disconnects ESPN loses $10 per month. They are going to have to make the people that watch ESPN which is less than half of people pay more.

    The younger generation has little interest in sports and is not paying for TV.

    DISHTv already has a package with no ESPN. This is really going to rock their world because people will not have to get cable or dish to watch ESPN.
    All I was suggesting at first glance was... Yes, streaming is 100% popular. I don't know what ESPN is expecting $ wise for this service. What would it matter if you weren't subscribing with your cable or satellite provider? You still wouldn't care about ESPN. Naturally, if Disney made their "OWN" company... awesome... it's their's. They can do what they want. But their sister company ESPN has been a bust for a few years now. This was their own doing. All I'm saying... don't totally blame this on people losing interest in sports.... if you have a program that people love... and they love the characters who make the show... they'll watch. The shows are garbage. Life is about entertainment... and ESPN screwed up when budgeting everything and signing ridiculous contracts with the NBA and so on.

    DirecTV is trying to be competitive as well... with no ESPN package... I think you save $10-$12 a month without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    All I was suggesting at first glance was... Yes, streaming is 100% popular. I don't know what ESPN is expecting $ wise for this service. What would it matter if you weren't subscribing with your cable or satellite provider? You still wouldn't care about ESPN. Naturally, if Disney made their "OWN" company... awesome... it's their's. They can do what they want. But their sister company ESPN has been a bust for a few years now. This was their own doing. All I'm saying... don't totally blame this on people losing interest in sports.... if you have a program that people love... and they love the characters who make the show... they'll watch. The shows are garbage. Life is about entertainment... and ESPN screwed up when budgeting everything and signing ridiculous contracts with the NBA and so on.

    DirecTV is trying to be competitive as well... with no ESPN package... I think you save $10-$12 a month without it.
    Their programming couldn't keep them on air for 5 minutes. That is just time filler. It is the sports events that ESPN charges for.

    Yes, they signed contracts thinking they had a captured audience with guaranteed fees of cable subscribers. But people have pulled a fast one on them by disconnecting. People are not going to pay for TV going forward in the way they have in the past.

    The new model is going to be to pay for things like ESPN separately. That will allow ESPN to make more money because you are going to make up the $30 they lost when they lost the trapped customers.

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    To get viewers back, they need to give another phony award to a homo that likes to play dress up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeggieDog View Post
    To get viewers back, they need to give another phony award to a homo that likes to play dress up.
    Yes, so many people watched the awards show and were so pissed at ESPN that they cancelled their ESPN which you cannot cancel unless you cancel cable TV altogether.

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    What's the point of getting rid of cable if each of these damn networks is gonna create their own streaming service. You'll need 11 different streaming services to watch shit by 2020.

    Netflix.

    CBS.

    Disney.

    ESPN.

    Amazon Prime.


    Whose next now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slanina View Post
    What's the point of getting rid of cable if each of these damn networks is gonna create their own streaming service. You'll need 11 different streaming services to watch shit by 2020.

    Netflix.

    CBS.

    Disney.

    ESPN.

    Amazon Prime.


    Whose next now?
    Yes. Will probably be more expensive in the end along with your internet going up because they will have you trapped now.

    Probably will get a basic package of your standard cable lineup for $30 and pay for everthing else separately.

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    Streaming services are such shit quality. Nobody wants 10 streaming services to watch their shows. Good luck live betting on sports with a streaming service. Was on CBS' for the Final Four at my girl's place, was a full minute behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    No football or hoops at this time = ��. The college sports they would show are hockey, bases and lacrosse.
    ESPN already doesnt show NHL any ways and the highlight coverage of it is almost nothing. I think ESPN forgot that hockey was a sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Streaming services are such shit quality. Nobody wants 10 streaming services to watch their shows. Good luck live betting on sports with a streaming service. Was on CBS' for the Final Four at my girl's place, was a full minute behind.
    I'm with you on that EL. I have DirecTV and they are still somewhat competitive in pricing. A lot cheaper than Comcast/Xfinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitols44 View Post
    ESPN already doesnt show NHL any ways and the highlight coverage of it is almost nothing. I think ESPN forgot that hockey was a sport.
    Read the article and it says hockey will be part of the streaming. Guess ESPN joined the majority of the population in forgetting hockey exists.

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    Will they stream those exciting cornhole tournaments?

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    Who gives a shit what they do, you can get high quality free streams at http://sportsarefree.xyz. Hopefully it includes college ball.
    Last edited by xKMACKx; 08-13-17 at 08:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grits n' Gravy View Post
    Read the article and it says hockey will be part of the streaming. Guess ESPN joined the majority of the population in forgetting hockey exists.
    The article is not specific on what kind of hockey they will show. ESPN does not have a contract with the NHL.

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