It’s About Testing – And Always Was

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  • WillyBoy
    SBR MVP
    • 06-19-18
    • 1988

    #1
    It’s About Testing – And Always Was
    Since the start of the Covid 19 pandemic, it’s been all about the testing. Not only how many but who was tested is the difference, both in terms of the number of infected and the dead. In S. Korea, which responded at light speed, not only ramping up the number of tests, but with the smart targeting of clusters – the co-workers, friends and family of the infected, and enforcing isolation and quarantine. The result being that with only a minimal lockdown, they've experienced a daily death number in the single digits, and a negligible rate of infection (an even better rate than ordinary flu). In the U.S. and most of the hardest hit European nations, blaming the Chinese, and travel restrictions were the priorities, and only much later did testing ramp up, and even then cluster targeting was never the national policy – testing only the symptomatic was the rule. Social-distancing and economic lockdowns in Europe did have impact on infection-spread, but it was too little, too late. Because of its late and feeble response, The U.S. became the world’s Covid 19 epicenter, with a huge number of infected and an ever rising death toll, and all this even before the projected “second wave” strikes.


    The CDC deserves a big chunk of the blame, but the buck has to stop with the president, who’s surrounded himself, with a cabinet and advisors, where personal loyalty, over experience and knowledge, is the priority credential in appointments. There’s a cost to prizing sycophancy over intelligence, and the country is paying it.


  • ericc
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-05-08
    • 8330

    #2
    Is the COVID-19 afraid of the testing?

    Because if that how you get rid the virus then test everyone everyday. WHO cares what it cost.

    The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it. New York still doesn’t trust the test’s accuracy.
    The CDC designed a flawed test for COVID-19, then took weeks to figure out a fix so state and local labs could use it. New York still doesn’t trust the test’s accuracy.




    CDC lab for coronavirus test kits may be contaminated: report



    It was not immediately clear if or how possible contamination in the Atlanta lab played a role in delays or problems with testing. Nor was it clear how significant or systemic the contamination concerns may be; whether it was a one-time issue that’s easily resolved, or a broader concern involving protocols, safeguards or leadership.
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    • Sanity Check
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-30-13
      • 10973

      #3
      Testing.

      A prime example of how the media and establishment gives you 100% completely useless frameworks and equipment to solve real problems.
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      • Sanity Check
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-30-13
        • 10973

        #4
        Originally posted by WillyBoy
        The CDC
        The CDC's corona virus testing plan.

        Is identical to:

        # The war on drugs
        # Cutting the deficit
        # Bringing troops home
        # Taxing the rich
        # Saving the environment
        # Fixing healthcare

        They'll fake it working/happening for as long as they can.

        Until people are smart enough to figure out its not.
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        • Auto Donk
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-03-13
          • 43572

          #5
          where exactly is china on this oh-so-important testing chart.....

          china, you know, is now totally covid free except for pesky foreigners and ex pat types bringing it back into the country!!!!

          wuhan discharged its last covid patient FOREVER today......


          testing is oh so critical, obviously......


          just ask those guys with sargeant brody....... what was the most important thing to do?????


          obviously.....

          and cnn nailed the fishermen, who were lagging behind the world in what mattered most:







          it's not the razor sharp teeth, the huge bite radius, the unrelenting desire to attack you......


          no.... It's always the testing -- or, far more importantly, the lack thereof -- that gets you........
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          • WillyBoy
            SBR MVP
            • 06-19-18
            • 1988

            #6
            Originally posted by Auto Donk
            where exactly is china on this oh-so-important testing chart.....

            china, you know, is now totally covid free except for pesky foreigners and ex pat types bringing it back into the country!!!!

            wuhan discharged its last covid patient FOREVER today......


            testing is oh so critical, obviously......


            just ask those guys with sargeant brody....... what was the most important thing to do?????


            obviously.....

            and cnn nailed the fishermen, who were lagging behind the world in what mattered most:







            it's not the razor sharp teeth, the huge bite radius, the unrelenting desire to attack you......


            no.... It's always the testing -- or, far more importantly, the lack thereof -- that gets you........
            I took China off this list, because their reporting is both lagging and doubtful. Reporting there is cleared first by the state controlled media, as there is no “Fake News” (like CNN) in China; you only get the straight party line, 24/7 (like FOX). I should add, China’s data reports are as doubtful, in terms of Covid 19 deaths, as is the U.S. (and Brazil) – under-reported for both foreign and domestic propaganda purposes.

            The problem with your Brody and the shark analogy is, obviously, that they already know where the shark is – in the water – which is why they don’t go skinny-dipping. With Covid 19 – minus testing – it comes out from where it hides, and bites your head off, in a way that you don’t even know it happened, until you’ve killed your parents and grandparents. Actually, skinny-dipping with sharks, is a great analogy for what happened in Sweden, and what Texas, Georgia and Tennessee are gearing up for – so, thanks for that.
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            • pologq
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-07-12
              • 19899

              #7
              testing needs to be in abundance and available for quick results imo.

              antibodies testing would be nice also but we do not know what antibodies really mean as a defense to reinfection.
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              • WillyBoy
                SBR MVP
                • 06-19-18
                • 1988

                #8
                Originally posted by pologq
                testing needs to be in abundance and available for quick results imo.

                antibodies testing would be nice also but we do not know what antibodies really mean as a defense to reinfection.
                The U.S. needs to be a lot smarter in its testing protocols; it needs to vigorously amplify it cluster testing. According to epidemiologists, the confirmed infected have potentially infected 3 others, though with social distancing still in effect, that rate is unlikely. When lockdowns end, that’s when testing needs to ramped up.

                I thinking testing the recovered (and the immune) for antibodies – and whether or not they’ll be sufficient to stave of the projected “second wave” of Covid 19 this fall – is absolutely needed; even assuming the damn thing doesn’t mutate into something worse.

                All that assumes the large-scale availability of testing materials, which is not a safe assumption to make.

                All that said – DEATHS ARE DOWN AGAIN TODAY!!! The infection rate is dropping, as well. If we concentrate all efforts on increasing test material availability, lockdowns might be safely eased.
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                • Sanity Check
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-30-13
                  • 10973

                  #9
                  Testing spreads the virus.

                  The only reason they promote it.
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                  • WillyBoy
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-19-18
                    • 1988

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sanity Check
                    Testing spreads the virus.

                    The only reason they promote it.

                    I don’t remember where I saw it, but the idea that “testing spreads the virus” was an example of what the author called “Limbaugh Logic”. The fact that testing for the disease (whether among the symptomatic or asymptomatic) reveals Covid 19 infection, with Limbaugh Logic applied, turns testing into simple, conspiracy-ready terms; something his brain-dead audience thrives on. Wish I could remember where I saw it, but it was hilarious.
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                    • Sanity Check
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-30-13
                      • 10973

                      #11
                      Originally posted by WillyBoy
                      I don’t remember where I saw it, but the idea that “testing spreads the virus” was an example of what the author called “Limbaugh Logic”. The fact that testing for the disease (whether among the symptomatic or asymptomatic) reveals Covid 19 infection, with Limbaugh Logic applied, turns testing into simple, conspiracy-ready terms; something his brain-dead audience thrives on. Wish I could remember where I saw it, but it was hilarious.

                      People wait in lines for 4 hours to be tested.

                      If that's not the perfect environment to get the virus.

                      What is.
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                      • Auto Donk
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-03-13
                        • 43572

                        #12
                        Originally posted by WillyBoy
                        I don’t remember where I saw it, but the idea that “testing spreads the virus” was an example of what the author called “Limbaugh Logic”. The fact that testing for the disease (whether among the symptomatic or asymptomatic) reveals Covid 19 infection, with Limbaugh Logic applied, turns testing into simple, conspiracy-ready terms; something his brain-dead audience thrives on. Wish I could remember where I saw it, but it was hilarious.
                        it's not "limbaugh logic" when you see drive thru testors not changing ppe in between administering tests to people in the long lines of vehicles; one mask and set of gloves for hundreds of people.... that's spreading the disease in the most idiotic of ways imaginable.....
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                        • WillyBoy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-19-18
                          • 1988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Auto Donk
                          it's not "limbaugh logic" when you see drive thru testors not changing ppe in between administering tests to people in the long lines of vehicles; one mask and set of gloves for hundreds of people.... that's spreading the disease in the most idiotic of ways imaginable.....
                          Dumb testing is what the U.S. is becoming famous for, but it was those half-witted testers at the drive-thru that were the problem – not the testing. Also, testing "on demand" like that, is truly stupid, given the low availability of test materials. Pure political pandering at its worst.
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                          • Sanity Check
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 03-30-13
                            • 10973

                            #14
                            Originally posted by WillyBoy
                            Dumb testing is what the U.S. is becoming famous for, but it was those half-witted testers at the drive-thru that were the problem – not the testing. Also, testing "on demand" like that, is truly stupid, given the low availability of test materials. Pure political pandering at its worst.

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