How about a pill you must take that takes away urge to drink forever.would that be ok with our society...we are heading there
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nyplayer33Restricted User
- 09-27-06
- 8303
#1Drunk drivers penaltyTags: None -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#2Or just attach a breathalizer to every car made. Blow into it and the car won't start if you are lit.. Won't be any drunk driving then..Comment -
Grits n' GravyRestricted User
- 06-10-10
- 13024
#6How about mandatory 1 year minimum prison sentence for 1st drunk driving conviction or plea deal? It is a 100% preventable crime and fairly obvious the current laws aren’t working due to excessive recidivism rate.
There is no excuse to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated.Comment -
TheMetsSuckSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-14-12
- 6146
#7There should be a serious penalty if you blow above .20 . Throwing someone In jail for a year or even a few days for drinking 5 beers and blowing a .10 is a joke thoughComment -
beavis13SBR MVP
- 06-18-14
- 2823
#9How about mandatory 1 year minimum prison sentence for 1st drunk driving conviction or plea deal? It is a 100% preventable crime and fairly obvious the current laws aren’t working due to excessive recidivism rate.
There is no excuse to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated.Comment -
capitalist pigSBR MVP
- 01-25-07
- 4998
#10How about mandatory 1 year minimum prison sentence for 1st drunk driving conviction or plea deal? It is a 100% preventable crime and fairly obvious the current laws aren’t working due to excessive recidivism rate.
There is no excuse to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated.
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#11Stiffer penalties always work!!! I'd like to see an automatic death sentence for each 1st degree murder charge found guilty and the death carried out immediately with no appeals.. Gang shootings would certainly go down over night, violent crimes as well.
Everyone in jail now for a proven guilty 1st degree murder charge should all be taken out as well. Jails would be freed up in no time.. If you kill an innocent person in cold blood for robbery or greed you should have no right to live yourself, bottom line!!!
I'm a firm believe in that. That would be equal justice.. Our laws are soft in the States and more innocent people unfortunately will die for it.Comment -
MaltedHopsFrenzySBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-10
- 8944
#12<------------- Nope.....
Man, alcohol is so good! I mean, an ice cold draft I.P.A. as the game's about to start, or a whiskey/rocks and a cigar after a steak & potato meal.....
Uber/Lyft is everywhere - just don't be a DUMBA$$ and drive intoxicated. Simple as that.....Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
- 34116
#13how about we ban alcohol???Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
- 34116
#14Stiffer penalties always work!!! I'd like to see an automatic death sentence for each 1st degree murder charge found guilty and the death carried out immediately with no appeals.. Gang shootings would certainly go down over night, violent crimes as well.
Everyone in jail now for a proven guilty 1st degree murder charge should all be taken out as well. Jails would be freed up in no time.. If you kill an innocent person in cold blood for robbery or greed you should have no right to live yourself, bottom line!!!
I'm a firm believe in that. That would be equal justice.. Our laws are soft in the States and more innocent people unfortunately will die for it.Comment -
BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend
- 07-13-09
- 19530
#18How about mandatory 1 year minimum prison sentence for 1st drunk driving conviction or plea deal? It is a 100% preventable crime and fairly obvious the current laws aren’t working due to excessive recidivism rate.
There is no excuse to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while intoxicated.Comment -
deltgenSBR Wise Guy
- 12-31-10
- 865
#19Stiffer penalties always work!!! I'd like to see an automatic death sentence for each 1st degree murder charge found guilty and the death carried out immediately with no appeals.. Gang shootings would certainly go down over night, violent crimes as well.
Everyone in jail now for a proven guilty 1st degree murder charge should all be taken out as well. Jails would be freed up in no time.. If you kill an innocent person in cold blood for robbery or greed you should have no right to live yourself, bottom line!!!
I'm a firm believe in that. That would be equal justice.. Our laws are soft in the States and more innocent people unfortunately will die for it.
That's a good solution in a vacuum, but how many of the people found guilty for murder (or any lesser crime, for that matter) are actually guilty? I think it's the majority, but majority isn't close enough when it comes to the death penalty. Read a newspaper for a year straight and see how many people across the country are released from prison because of scientific advances (usually concerning DNA) that weren't available when they were tried. If a man is found guilty and convicted of murder, we should give him a life sentence. If something happens years later that shows that he may have been wrongly convicted, we can at least attempt to make amends for taking away his freedom, but if we kill him and it is later discovered that is guilt is doubtful, we cannot fix that. Death penalty may seem fair as a concept, but as long as cops, attorneys, judges, and juries are all human beings, the possibility of error (whether innocent mistakes or malfeasance) is entirely too strong.Comment -
gauchojakeBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-17-10
- 34116
#20
Do I think it's realistic to reenact prohibition? Probably not. We should have a discussion about it though.Comment -
NitrogenSBR MVP
- 08-15-16
- 1972
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MaltedHopsFrenzySBR Hall of Famer
- 10-08-10
- 8944
#22
Just Uber it for real at that point.Comment -
NitrogenSBR MVP
- 08-15-16
- 1972
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy
- 11-01-11
- 43253
#24<------------- Nope.....
Man, alcohol is so good! I mean, an ice cold draft I.P.A. as the game's about to start, or a whiskey/rocks and a cigar after a steak & potato meal.....
Uber/Lyft is everywhere - just don't be a DUMBA$$ and drive intoxicated. Simple as that.....
The way you gotta look at it is yeah uber/taxi fare is an inconvenience but it is still necessaryComment -
MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
- 12-18-10
- 14758
#25Current laws are punitive an ineffective.
They discrimate against rural communities.
Old DUI % was.15, strong sentencing along those lines would be fair.
Current .08 law a slim lady on empty stomach could blow w one martini or an athlete, in ketosis, could blow after 2 beers.
Self driving cars will eliminate this but the real issue is the driver who doesn't skip a curb, swerve, cause injury or damage yet is pulled over for "failure to signal a turn".... is that probable cause for a DUI test? Then he blows a .09 and spends the weekend in county.
We have too many police, and they selectively enforce. If there is no reckless driving, no accidents, no injury and no damages then I say there is no crime.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#26Self driving cars would solve that problem.. Hard to trust those on the streets if that's all there was, one malfunction here and there and that will cause deathly accidents as well..Comment -
NitrogenSBR MVP
- 08-15-16
- 1972
#27
The self driving cars are already better than the average driver. Because they'll be autonomous, people want perfection vs. drunk morons, texting teens, sleepy truckers etc.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#28
For example - Blow out tire on freeways, braking and driving in very harsh weather, the quick responses in flash situations like when a little kid darted out in the road and you need to swerve. So many intangibles to account for when driving..
I don't think we have arrived yet with our current technology when trusting self driving cars.. How about if the accelerator sticks, brakes fail, the transmission goes at high speeds, etc?
I'll trust a human to deal with those problems in the crunch over a self driving sensor computer driven car.. I want to be at the controls in those situations..Comment -
NitrogenSBR MVP
- 08-15-16
- 1972
#29Cars have mechanical problems at times which self driving smart cars might not be able to compute and compensate for like humans..
For example - Blow out tire on freeways, braking and driving in very harsh weather, the quick responses in flash situations like when a little kid darted out in the road and you need to swerve. So many intangibles to account for when driving..
I don't think we have arrived yet with our current technology when trusting self driving cars.. How about if the accelerator sticks, brakes fail, the transmission goes at high speeds, etc?
I'll trust a human to deal with those problems in the crunch over a self driving sensor computer driven car.. I want to be at the controls in those situations..
In the end, we'll see driving fatalities drop more dramatically than when seatbelts were implemented into vehicles, and then made mandatory in most locales.
I get that you want to be in control in those situations. However, when it's provable (and it will be) that self driving cars are multiple times safer than the average driver, it'll become unfeasable for most people to insure their vehicles (as insurance companies will treat "own" drivers much like they do 17 year old males with drivers licenses...as might higher risk)
There will always be scenarios "what if you have to swerve and kill a kid in order to not hit a bus of kids". There will always be an element of randomness. However, the VAST majority of accidents are caused by people simply not paying attention to their surroundings, or driving according to the road/weather conditions.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83686
#30^^^^
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MinnesotaFatsSBR Posting Legend
- 12-18-10
- 14758
#32
If theres no accident, no swerving, no damage then what is the crime?
I'm not a fan of the game police play using bullshit reasons as probable cause to pull people over. It's really just a quota game.Comment -
VeggieDogSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-21-09
- 7214
#33
Let's put it this way: If I walk into a crowded shopping mall, close my eyes and fire a gun in random directions without hurting anyone, would I ever be able to legally own a gun again?
So why can DUIers ever have a driver's license again?Comment
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