John McCain, Prisoner of War A First-Person Account, 1973

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  • turtledoves
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    #1
    John McCain, Prisoner of War A First-Person Account, 1973
    interesting article

  • thechaoz
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    • 10-23-09
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    #2
    A real American, unlike a certain person on Penn avenue
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    • maggiethebestdog
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      #3
      Originally posted by thechaoz
      A real American, unlike a certain person on Penn avenue
      Bill Clinton doesn't live there anymore but I get your point
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      • VeggieDog
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        #4
        Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
        Bill Clinton doesn't live there anymore but I get your point
        Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders never served in the military.
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        • maggiethebestdog
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          #5
          Originally posted by VeggieDog
          Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders never served in the military.
          I know
          I was just talking about the serial rapist draft dodger
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          • VeggieDog
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            • 02-21-09
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            #6
            Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
            I know
            I was just talking about the serial rapist draft dodger
            Yes, I agree. I was just adding to the list. If Hillary or Bernie had won, would they be accused of not being a real American?
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            • maggiethebestdog
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              #7
              Originally posted by VeggieDog
              Yes, I agree. I was just adding to the list. If Hillary or Bernie had won, would they be accused of not being a real American?
              Of course
              There is no level of hypocrisy they won't apply to any situation
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              • Sanity Check
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                • 03-30-13
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                #8
                Can anyone name a single thing John McCain has done for america as a politician?

                I remember McCain introducing his "Internet Freedom Act" around 10 years ago which was designed to kill net neutrality.

                Is that what a "real american" does?
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                • maggiethebestdog
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sanity Check
                  Can anyone name a single thing John McCain has done for america as a politician?

                  I remember McCain introducing his "Internet Freedom Act" around 10 years ago which was designed to kill net neutrality.

                  Is that what a "real american" does?
                  I won't argue with anyone about his military service, but what he has done since then is an absolute disgrace to this country
                  He is one of the biggest reasons the average American person has been screwed over the last 30 yrs
                  From incompetence to corruption he needs to be out of Congress
                  He's such a scumbag he can't bring himself to retire so I guess this is the only way he will leave
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                  • Sanity Check
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                    #10
                    I think the system is broken.

                    Politicians who whore themselves out to the highest bidder and sell out the country are high paid and praised by the media.

                    Anyone who sticks to their values and looks out for average joes receives the treatment Donald Trump has gotten since 2016.

                    Laws need to be passed to reduce the influence special interests and lobbyists have on politics.
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                    • thechaoz
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                      • 10-23-09
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                      I know
                      I was just talking about the serial rapist draft dodger
                      Communist co-conspirer traitor?
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                      • thechaoz
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                        • 10-23-09
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sanity Check
                        I think the system is broken.

                        Politicians who whore themselves out to the highest bidder and sell out the country are high paid and praised by the media.

                        Anyone who sticks to their values and looks out for average joes receives the treatment Donald Trump has gotten since 2016.

                        Laws need to be passed to reduce the influence special interests and lobbyists have on politics.
                        You must be joking
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                        • thechaoz
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                          • 10-23-09
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                          Can anyone name a single thing John McCain has done for america as a politician?

                          I remember McCain introducing his "Internet Freedom Act" around 10 years ago which was designed to kill net neutrality.

                          Is that what a "real american" does?
                          Holy shit you're stupid. Don't answer I promise I'm not checking this thread again. Pm me if you want me to notice
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                          • Sanity Check
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by thechaoz
                            Holy shit you're stupid.
                            Leftists call people names as they're incapable of having mature or intellectual conversations.




                            Too late. I think they're hiding in their safe space from facts and words which might hurt their feelings.


                            *Sigh*
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                            • turtledoves
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                              #15
                              RIP
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                              • turkkatarian
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                                #16
                                RIP but he did vote against Dr Martin Luther King Holiday in Arizona.
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                                • cincinnatikid513
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                                  • 11-23-17
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                                  #17
                                  wow he died quick after stopping treatment
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                                  • HockeyRocks
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                                    #18
                                    How can you be the President of the United States and get banned from a funeral????

                                    Easy, be a fukking azz-hole and be Donald trump....
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                                    • JIBBBY
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                                      • 12-10-09
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                                      #19
                                      The Senate seat now opens up with McCain's death..

                                      McCain’s replacement probably won’t be very consequential in the short term

                                      McCain was considered a less reliable Republican vote than many of his colleagues, and whoever replaces him is likely to be more solidly aligned with the rest of the GOP. Ducey is more or less a traditional Republican himself, and he will likely choose someone his party’s leaders would approve of.
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                                      • chico2663
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                        The Senate seat now opens up with McCain's death..

                                        McCain’s replacement probably won’t be very consequential in the short term

                                        McCain was considered a less reliable Republican vote than many of his colleagues, and whoever replaces him is likely to be more solidly aligned with the rest of the GOP. Ducey is more or less a traditional Republican himself, and he will likely choose someone his party’s leaders would approve of.
                                        because he died after may 10 the gov. will appoint for next 2.2 years. There is talk of his wife carrying out the finish of the term. The gov. isn't a fan of trump because he put him in bad light went he went to the border there. But he needs trumps voters. 50-50 chance he gets defeated. If he was smart he would take the seat himself.
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                                        • chico2663
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          The Senate seat now opens up with McCain's death..

                                          McCain’s replacement probably won’t be very consequential in the short term

                                          McCain was considered a less reliable Republican vote than many of his colleagues, and whoever replaces him is likely to be more solidly aligned with the rest of the GOP. Ducey is more or less a traditional Republican himself, and he will likely choose someone his party’s leaders would approve of.
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            • 12-10-09
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                                            #22
                                            Yeah, it's Ducey's call.. He's a hard line Republican by nature unlike John McCain so I suspect someone that won't resist Trump policy will take the seat.. That's a good thing for passing bills in the near future.. Jeff Flake is out too. Arizona is gonna have some new names filling those seats.. Republicans should grab them both..

                                            That's good for the State of Arizona and for the Trump agenda..
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                                            • chico2663
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                                              #23
                                              bad news for you is dem probably next gov. gonna change the seats in congress
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                                              • fudy213
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                                                #24
                                                Lets not forget that it was John McCain that saved the UFC. When the UFC first started it was an unorganized spectacle of violence. No gloves. few rules. McCain called it a disgrace (which is arguable) and a spectacle (which it was). It had NO future and NO potential for widespread acceptance. He demanded it be disbanded or cleaned up. In came Dana White and the Fretatta(?) brothers who saw the potential for growth if it had rules, weight divisions, organization, etc... Got it for a steal ($2million) and built it into the fastest growing sport in the world. A sport that I have had many hours of fun and excitement watching and plan on having half a lifetime more of it.
                                                There are MANY things we can thank John McCain for. If he hadnt made a big deal to clean it up, it might just have dropped off the plate into a sideshow.
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                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by chico2663
                                                  bad news for you is dem probably next gov. gonna change the seats in congress
                                                  Depends how many illegals living in Arizona can cast bogus votes now.. Arizona is loaded with illegals... We'll see Chico?
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fudy213
                                                    Lets not forget that it was John McCain that saved the UFC. When the UFC first started it was an unorganized spectacle of violence. No gloves. few rules. McCain called it a disgrace (which is arguable) and a spectacle (which it was). It had NO future and NO potential for widespread acceptance. He demanded it be disbanded or cleaned up. In came Dana White and the Fretatta(?) brothers who saw the potential for growth if it had rules, weight divisions, organization, etc... Got it for a steal ($2million) and built it into the fastest growing sport in the world. A sport that I have had many hours of fun and excitement watching and plan on having half a lifetime more of it.
                                                    There are MANY things we can thank John McCain for. If he hadnt made a big deal to clean it up, it might just have dropped off the plate into a sideshow.
                                                    That's interesting to know, I did not know that.. I was enjoying the UFC just last night.. Figures Johnny boy would try to crap on the UFC...
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                                                    • fudy213
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                                                      #27
                                                      Crap on the UFC? No. Quite the opposite. He crapped on what the UFC was before Dana White got hold of it. He called it "human cockfighting" and he was absolutely right. There was no way that spectacle was going to go anywhere but third or fourth tiered venues that would eventually peter out because of crazy insurance costs these would rate. Because of John McCain, the previous owners wanted nothing to do with it and were willing to nearly give it away for forward thinking business people like White and the Frettatas. In fact the guy said he was just going to let it die because he didnt want to do the work needed to build this. John McCain set the stage for a modern licensed and commisioned sport that would have a wide appeal across all human categories. Not the "cockfighting crowd" it was attracting.
                                                      And he was a war hero too.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by fudy213
                                                        Crap on the UFC? No. Quite the opposite. He crapped on what the UFC was before Dana White got hold of it. He called it "human cockfighting" and he was absolutely right. There was no way that spectacle was going to go anywhere but third or fourth tiered venues that would eventually peter out because of crazy insurance costs these would rate. Because of John McCain, the previous owners wanted nothing to do with it and were willing to nearly give it away for forward thinking business people like White and the Frettatas. In fact the guy said he was just going to let it die because he didnt want to do the work needed to build this. John McCain set the stage for a modern licensed and commisioned sport that would have a wide appeal across all human categories. Not the "cockfighting crowd" it was attracting.
                                                        And he was a war hero too.
                                                        The first UFC events were the most entertaining of all.. Back then we all didn't know which Martial Art was KING.. Those early UFC events proved Jits was a dominate art on the ground with Royce Gracie choking out everyone... It was jaw dropping to watch at the time.. I still have them all recorded on VHS tapes today.. ..

                                                        I enjoyed the early UFC events back then more then I do today to be honest.. I've seen every UFC event since it's birth.. I would know.. You do have to appreciate the raw sport of human combat and pure competition that goes with it to understand this in my opinion..

                                                        Most intellects and desk jobbers don't understand the sport and think of it as being barbaric which it is not..
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                                                        • chico2663
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Depends how many illegals living in Arizona can cast bogus votes now.. Arizona is loaded with illegals... We'll see Chico?
                                                          jibby the only ones busted are some hillbillies from ky. My father could be related to them.
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                                                          • TheGoldenGoose
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                                                            #30
                                                            To those of you who have turned this tribute Thread of an American hero into a political farce...

                                                            I SPIT IN YOUR FACE !!!!!!!!!!

                                                            RIP John McCain

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                                                            • fudy213
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                              The first UFC events were the most entertaining of all.. Back then we all didn't know which Martial Art was KING.. Those early UFC events proved Jits was a dominate art on the ground with Royce Gracie choking out everyone... It was jaw dropping to watch at the time.. I still have them all recorded on VHS tapes today.. ..


                                                              yed the early UFC events back then more then I do today to be honest.. I've seen every UFC event since it's birth.. I would know.. You do have to appreciate the raw sport of human combat and pure competition that goes with it to understand this in my opinion..

                                                              Most intellects and desk jobbers don't understand the sport and think of it as being barbaric which it is not..
                                                              I agree with you Jibby. Im a fan from the Severn, Gracie, Abbot days. However there just arent the numbers of guys like us to make THAT form of sport mainstream. In that form, the UFC would always be just a sideshow. To be a mainstream sport it HAS TO attract women and the desk jobber who isnt hardcore. Were talking thousands vs. millions. Parents wouldnt let their kids into a sport like that. Communities wouldnt let it into their venues.
                                                              What McCain did was speak brutally honest truth. Many didnt like to hear it but thats what it was, to the vast majority of the American public, the truth. McCain didnt speak to those on the extremes, he spoke to the people in the middle, he spoke sense.
                                                              And he was a war hero.
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                                                              • turtledoves
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                                                                #32
                                                                i'm glad everyone enjoyed the article
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                                                                • thechaoz
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                                  I know
                                                                  I was just talking about the serial rapist draft dodger
                                                                  Donnie Bone Spurs?
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                                                                  • Ebumdude
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by TheGoldenGoose
                                                                    To those of you who have turned this tribute Thread of an American hero into a political farce...

                                                                    I SPIT IN YOUR FACE !!!!!!!!!!

                                                                    RIP John McCain
                                                                    I'm sorry. But what was he a hero of?

                                                                    Oh, you mean the time when he got captured in Vietnam only to give out U.S. North Vietnam bombing details which resulted in 60% additional loss of our warplanes? Which also led to a complete abortion of bombing the North Vietnamese and lost a crucial turning point of the war...

                                                                    No thanks. "Songbird" is burning exactly where he deserves to be right now.
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                                                                    • TheGoldenGoose
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                                                                      #35
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