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  • MinnesotaFats
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-18-10
    • 14758

    #1
    Anyone following MGM lawsuit of victims?
    Very interesting strategy.

    MGM Sue's the victims of shooting in a pre emptive suit citing terror laws.

    Probably not the best PR move...
  • JAKEPEAVY21
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 03-11-11
    • 29311

    #2
    I read about this the other day and agree it is not a good PR move. That said, why should they be held accountable for the actions of some nutcase?
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    • USCPHILLYGUY
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-15-12
      • 21746

      #3
      Fatty procedural move, nothing more
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      • 19th Hole
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        • 03-22-09
        • 18954

        #4
        Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
        Very interesting strategy.

        MGM Sue's the victims of shooting in a pre emptive suit citing terror laws.

        Probably not the best PR move...
        Probably not the best legal strategy also.
        Chances
        of tactic working favorably for MGM said to be slim.
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        • MinnesotaFats
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-18-10
          • 14758

          #5
          Procedural perhaps, but from that point of view it elicited litigation from every victim by their own means instead of sitting back and 1 by 1 playing defense or waiting for a CA that maybe only 60-80% of victims would join.

          Now they are litigating with 100%
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          • Crusherrr
            SBR MVP
            • 06-27-16
            • 3655

            #6
            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
            I read about this the other day and agree it is not a good PR move. That said, why should they be held accountable for the actions of some nutcase?
            Mostly because he had access to the service elevator.
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            • RudyRuetigger
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-24-10
              • 65084

              #7
              Originally posted by 19th Hole
              Probably not the best legal strategy also.
              Chances
              of tactic working favorably for MGM said to be slim.
              well they did it to get tried in federal court

              understandable
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              • BriGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 12-06-11
                • 1556

                #8
                I agree it is not exactly the best PR move because ignorant people read the headlines "MGM sues victims" and think that MGM is going after the victims of the crime for money, which is not the case.

                However, it is a wise move from a legal standpoint. MGM wants a court to rule that they were not responsible for what happened. I cannot overstate how important venue selection is in such lawsuits and by being the ones to file first - instead of waiting to be sued - they get to select venue.
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                • JayLA
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-11-12
                  • 7806

                  #9
                  United States of Litigation
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                  • Bluehorseshoe
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-06
                    • 15003

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                    I read about this the other day and agree it is not a good PR move. That said, why should they be held accountable for the actions of some nutcase?
                    Exactly.

                    You know who to blame for that...... Fxing lawyers.
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                    • krk1030
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-13-08
                      • 17610

                      #11
                      It's an absolute disgrace that MGM even needs a lwayer to deal with this matter.

                      Liability laws in the country are beyond ridiculous.
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Acts of terror are tough cases for both parties

                        Who knows how it plays out
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                        • BriGuy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-06-11
                          • 1556

                          #13
                          Originally posted by krk1030
                          It's an absolute disgrace that MGM even needs a lwayer to deal with this matter.

                          Liability laws in the country are beyond ridiculous.
                          When tragedy strikes, all people look for is how they can turn it into their paydays.

                          I can't blame MGM for what happened. What are they supposed to do? Inspect each hotel guest's luggage? Turn the hotel lobby into the TSA? People would scream their heads off about what a violation of privacy it is if they did such a thing.
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                          • TheMoneyShot
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                            • 02-14-07
                            • 28672

                            #14
                            "Acts Of Terror" Isn't grounds for a lawsuit?

                            Don't get me started on this again. So many angles to the Las Vegas thing....

                            MGM should stop being a dik about everything... regardless if this was an entire plotted business deal to introduce body scanners... or a relevant nut case... MGM has business insurance... pay the families (who lost loved ones) their $$$$$ and get on with life. Stop covering more sh#$ up like "It's not our fault." Yeah... guy just single handedly plotted the biggest act of terror in American History all by his 60+ year old self with no help. GTFO with this nonsense.
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                            • NrmlCurvSurfr
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                              • 04-05-10
                              • 2896

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JayLA
                              United States of Litigation
                              Throwing the US under the bus like they are the only ones...didn’t the EU just fine an American company for several billion...it’s the way the world works pal
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                              • mikejamm
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-24-09
                                • 11047

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                "Acts Of Terror" Isn't grounds for a lawsuit?

                                Don't get me started on this again. So many angles to the Las Vegas thing....

                                MGM should stop being a dik about everything... regardless if this was an entire plotted business deal to introduce body scanners... or a relevant nut case... MGM has business insurance... pay the families (who lost loved ones) their $$$$$ and get on with life. Stop covering more sh#$ up like "It's not our fault." Yeah... guy just single handedly plotted the biggest act of terror in American History all by his 60+ year old self with no help. GTFO with this nonsense.
                                Exactly MS! Fuk MGM! And yes they are partly responsible! Had their security been a little more observant of one lunatic bringing in so much so called "luggage" over a period of 4 damn days, they probably could've stopped this asshole. I'll never stay at that fuk'in hotel ever again. I hope the PR over this bullshit "suing of the victims," ruins that corporate shit hole!
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                                • mrpapageorgio
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                                  • 09-07-17
                                  • 2974

                                  #17
                                  I think I now know why they've been bombarding me with emails lately to stay there. Last one offered $33/night for a standard room at MB and $64/night for a standard at Delano.
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                                  • xKMACKx
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-16-08
                                    • 1274

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BriGuy
                                    When tragedy strikes, all people look for is how they can turn it into their paydays.

                                    I can't blame MGM for what happened. What are they supposed to do? Inspect each hotel guest's luggage? Turn the hotel lobby into the TSA? People would scream their heads off about what a violation of privacy it is if they did such a thing.
                                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/f2CS6XOofVg" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                                    The Wynn has been using this technology at their entrances for a year or two now.
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                                    • xKMACKx
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-16-08
                                      • 1274

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by mrpapageorgio
                                      I think I now know why they've been bombarding me with emails lately to stay there. Last one offered $33/night for a standard room at MB and $64/night for a standard at Delano.
                                      They are giving me comps to Mandalay Bay after running 40 bucks through a slot machine a few months ago
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                                      • mrpapageorgio
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-07-17
                                        • 2974

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by xKMACKx
                                        They are giving me comps to Mandalay Bay after running 40 bucks through a slot machine a few months ago
                                        Last time I was in Vegas I was at Cosmo. I haven't stayed at MB in over 3 years, so they must really be hurting.
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                                        • petepan69
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-09-18
                                          • 1332

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                          "Acts Of Terror" Isn't grounds for a lawsuit?

                                          Don't get me started on this again. So many angles to the Las Vegas thing....

                                          MGM should stop being a dik about everything... regardless if this was an entire plotted business deal to introduce body scanners... or a relevant nut case... MGM has business insurance... pay the families (who lost loved ones) their $$$$$ and get on with life. Stop covering more sh#$ up like "It's not our fault." Yeah... guy just single handedly plotted the biggest act of terror in American History all by his 60+ year old self with no help. GTFO with this nonsense.
                                          Just like Lee Harvey Oswald...never fired a single shot.
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #22
                                            Goes to show you how twisted our laws and top lawyers can be..

                                            How in the hell do you sue or even bother victims? This is a legal travesty.. Leave the victims alone!!!!!
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                                            • 2daBank
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-26-09
                                              • 88966

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                              Throwing the US under the bus like they are the only ones...didn’t the EU just fine an American company for several billion...it’s the way the world works pal
                                              It’s not working and saying everyone is doing it doesn’t really excuse the cesspool our country has become.
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                                              • JIBBBY
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #24
                                                I don't think the MGM should be held responsible.. There should be no lawsuits period.. Nothing the MGM could have done to see this coming.. So the guy uses the service elevator, so he had a ton of baggage... There is no red flags to check with that.. He could have been traveling heavy and passing thru...

                                                He had a suite and was gambling in the casino.. He never stood out as a real threat even to security...

                                                THERE SHOULD BE NO LAWSUITS period on either side.. IMO.... If MGM wants to make a good PR move they should compensate all the victims though and not try and sue them..
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39995

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                  I don't think the MGM should be held responsible.. There should be no lawsuits period.. Nothing the MGM could have done to see this coming.. So the guy uses the service elevator, so he had a ton of baggage... There is no red flags to check with that.. He could have been traveling heavy and passing thru...

                                                  He had a suite and was gambling in the casino.. He never stood out as a real threat even to security...

                                                  THERE SHOULD BE NO LAWSUITS period on either side.. IMO.... If MGM wants to make a good PR move they should compensate all the victims though and not try and sue them..
                                                  MGM is not suing the victims in the sense that they are trying to recover something from them. They are just naming them to have the case heard in federal court. So your two posts don't really make sense. They "sued" the victims because the victims sued first and they are simply filing to have the case heard in federal court and are procedurally required to name them as defendants. It's pretty misleading when people say they are suing the victims.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                    • 83686

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by d2bets
                                                    MGM is not suing the victims in the sense that they are trying to recover something from them. They are just naming them to have the case heard in federal court. So your two posts don't really make sense. They "sued" the victims because the victims sued first and they are simply filing to have the case heard in federal court and are procedurally required to name them as defendants. It's pretty misleading when people say they are suing the victims.
                                                    Well victims should be left alone and not brought into legal matters such as these regardless.. Leave the victims alone.. Let them move on...
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 39995

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      Well victims should be left alone and not brought into legal matters such as these regardless.. Leave the victims alone.. Let them move on...
                                                      Not sure you're getting it.

                                                      These victims sued MGM. MGM wants to move the case to federal court and to do so they had to name these victims as counter-defendants. No other way.
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by d2bets
                                                        Not sure you're getting it.

                                                        These victims sued MGM. MGM wants to move the case to federal court and to do so they had to name these victims as counter-defendants. No other way.
                                                        I guess, I didn't read the entire story... What ever...
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