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  • TheMoneyShot
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    • 02-14-07
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    #1
    Photo: Man Shoots A Little Girl (Age 7) And Her Mother Outside Of Soccer Practice
    Full Story FOX 2 News Detroit

    This happened about 2 miles from my home. Taylor Sportsplex is where you can play ice hockey and also indoor soccer.

    The story broke yesterday. At the time we knew the little girl and mother were still alive. The gunman died of a self inflicted gun shot.

    Yesterday, we did not know anything about the situation... as to why??? What would make someone do this???


    Fox 2 News has now confirmed...

    1. The little girl is dead. Age 7.

    2. The gunman age 57 is dead. Was known to be a friend of the family.

    3. The mom age 37 is clinging to her life and is expected to recover.

    4. The gunman had a valid CPL and was carrying a 9mm. The girl attended her soccer practice as normal. Witnesses claim the 57 year old was seen hugging the little girl... and acting normal during practice. Once practice ended he walked with the mother and daughter to the car. Police confirm the little girl was shot and killed first. Then, he shot and wounded the mother. He eventually shot and killed himself.

    5. People who have come forward with details.... claim the man was possessed. Saying... he always talked about someone was out to get him. Though... he was never diagnosed with any type of illness. He had no known criminal record. Only an impaired driving conviction in 2001.

    6. The Police Chief claims... people should of came forward with all of these details months ago. He may not of been able to obtain the firearm in this "state of mind".





    An innocent life... taken away... by some clown with a gun. Sad.
  • TheMoneyShot
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    #2
    I have a question for everyone....

    What could of prevented this?

    Ban guns?

    Regulated mental check ups?

    Inevitable?

    Destiny?


    I don't care how nuts you are in the head... how do you kill someone like that? The little girl first?? Come on. This is some fukked up sh#$.
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    • THE_LOCKSMITH
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      • 08-25-08
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      #3
      TMS you need to get out of Detroit...
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      • itchypickle
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-05-09
        • 21452

        #4
        Could have easily slit everyone with a razor that close. People are people. It's sad. Banning things won't help anything. Look at the Sudan and Somalia now...the guys who can't get guns simply take off heads with machetes .
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        • pronk
          Restricted User
          • 11-22-08
          • 6887

          #5
          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
          I have a question for everyone....

          What could of prevented this?
          Faith in Jesus and TEN COMMANDMENTS in every school, court room and in every Capitol building.
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          • TheMoneyShot
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            • 02-14-07
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            #6
            Innocent girl just going to soccer practice and learning the game... having fun with her teammates.

            Then gets blown away outside? This really irritates me.

            There's a Michigan State Police Post just 0.25 mile away from the Sportsplex. Didn't do a bit of good. Violence happens anywhere.
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            • R.P. McMurphy
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              • 06-15-12
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              #7
              Awful story unfortunately violence will never end there is no cure for it some just have the "sickness" in whatever regard. Man is his own worst enemy truly more tragic when little kids are involved. A guy I went to school with sister was killed several years back by her estranged husband. Killed her took their young daughter fled across state lines. Luckily he was spotted and taken out in a standoff and the little girl was unharmed. Guns or no guns sick fukks will always find a way and always have I guess:/
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              • rkelly110
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                • 10-05-09
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                #8
                Sounds like a one way love story gone bad. Guy was infatuated with them, woman told him to get lost.
                He couldn't live without them to the point of him blasting everyone and himself.

                What have we learned? Don't piss someone off who's packing and women need to stop teasing. Keep their legs closed.
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                • statnerds
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                  • 09-23-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                  There's a Michigan State Police Post just 0.25 mile away from the Sportsplex. Didn't do a bit of good. Violence happens anywhere.
                  so you are clearly in favor of an armed citizenry that can protect themselves from sick fukks like this and not have to rely on the police
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                  • blackHIPPY
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                    • 10-01-14
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pronk
                    Faith in Jesus and TEN COMMANDMENTS in every school, court room and in every Capitol building.
                    lol
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                    • The Kraken
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                      • 12-25-11
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by statnerds
                      so you are clearly in favor of an armed citizenry that can protect themselves from sick fukks like this and not have to rely on the police
                      STFU moron

                      Had either the mom, the 7 year old girl, or any other joe blow near them had a gun, not a damn thing would have changed

                      Having a gun on you doesn't mean shit, simply a false sense of security. You're more likely to commit suicide with it than to use it in a life or death situation.

                      Statnerds=logic fail
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                      • The Kraken
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                        • 12-25-11
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                        I have a question for everyone....

                        What could of prevented this?

                        Ban guns?

                        Regulated mental check ups?

                        Inevitable?

                        Destiny?


                        I don't care how nuts you are in the head... how do you kill someone like that? The little girl first?? Come on. This is some fukked up sh#$.
                        In this day and age, there's no way to prevent these things from happening.

                        There's an old saying, "You make the bed you lie in"

                        We've made this mess by allowing it to get to this point. For decades, the NRA has won. They have become too political and too powerful.

                        But make no mistake, nothing yesterday could have prevented it from happening.

                        We have to take that first step towards gun control and it won't be an easy one, but in time, it will become obvious why it was necessary. Had that first step been taken 50 years ago, this little girl would likely be alive today.
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                        • TheMoneyShot
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by statnerds
                          so you are clearly in favor of an armed citizenry that can protect themselves from sick fukks like this and not have to rely on the police
                          I don't even know what you meant by this post? I'm not in favor of anything. All I know is a little girl got killed for no reason. A dude carrying a 9mm didn't use his gun in self defense to detour evil. He used his gun on the aggressive side for no reason whatsoever. Took an innocent life because he was having a bad day. He said he heard CLEO calling him from afar.
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                          • pavyracer
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                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82839

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                            I have a question for everyone....

                            What could of prevented this?

                            Ban guns?

                            Regulated mental check ups?

                            Inevitable?

                            Destiny?


                            I don't care how nuts you are in the head... how do you kill someone like that? The little girl first?? Come on. This is some fukked up sh#$.
                            This doesn't happen in other countries who also have guns. We have lost our values in this country. Everyone with in reach of a gun whether obtained legally or illegal wants to shoot children and mothers and old people.
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                            • brooks85
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                              • 01-05-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                              STFU moron

                              Had either the mom, the 7 year old girl, or any other joe blow near them had a gun, not a damn thing would have changed

                              Having a gun on you doesn't mean shit, simply a false sense of security. You're more likely to commit suicide with it than to use it in a life or death situation.

                              Statnerds=logic fail
                              wrong again, as we have already established not everyone is a coward like you kraken.
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                              • The Kraken
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                                • 12-25-11
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                                #16
                                You think if that mother had a gun on her, she would have lived? You think anyone could have drawn their weapon to save those two lives in the seconds it took him to kill them both?

                                It's why guns rarely translate to a positive benefit, maybe once in a blue moon, that's it

                                A gun is simply a false sense of security.

                                How about that MIT Officer that was shot and killed by the boston bomber? He was armed?

                                How about the highway patrolman in Lousiana that was shot and killed by the drunk guy? He was armed.
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                                • slambam
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                                  • 02-07-10
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                                  #17
                                  It amazes me how many Americans are fukked in the head. So many jackasses have a major sense of entitlement and freak out with something they don't like or are jealous of.
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                                  • pavyracer
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                                    • 04-12-07
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                    You think if that mother had a gun on her, she would have lived? You think anyone could have drawn their weapon to save those two lives in the seconds it took him to kill them both?

                                    It's why guns rarely translate to a positive benefit, maybe once in a blue moon, that's it

                                    A gun is simply a false sense of security.

                                    How about that MIT Officer that was shot and killed by the boston bomber? He was armed?

                                    How about the highway patrolman in Lousiana that was shot and killed by the drunk guy? He was armed.
                                    You think if the guy was armed with a kitchen knife, hammer or screwdriver he wouldn't have killed the little girl and mother and no one would have done anything?

                                    Don't blame the weapon. Blame the man using it.
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                                    • The Kraken
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                                      #19
                                      Well, in this particular instance, I agree that you're right, the weapon is likely not to blame.

                                      However, in the broader picture, killing people with a knife is not easy. Had the two California terrorists had knives, they would not have killed 14 people. Simply stabbing someone is a lot less likely to kill the than shooting someone

                                      Guns allow an individual to kill as many people as they desire, in a short amount of time. A knife, hammer or bat, that could never happen.

                                      I'm not arguing that gun control will eliminate homocides, that's naive and ridiculous. I'm arguing that guns designed for the theatre of war are very bad in the hands of citizens, and hand guns that have 16 round magazines.

                                      So yes, the weapon is to blame in a lot of instances, but not all.
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                                      • TheMoneyShot
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                                        • 02-14-07
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                                        #20
                                        I was watching the ID Channel. You know those dumb shows on there? Anyways... sometimes you watch a show... and they have a psychologist etc who explains what a person is thinking when killing someone?

                                        Well... they say using a knife is more of a "personal killing" meaning... you have emotions involved and anger towards the person.

                                        Where as... using a gun... it's not personal?

                                        Never understood that... but they say it's true.

                                        That's why they say... a killer is less likely to use a knife or a sharp device to kill you. Never tested this theory out though?
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                                        • The Kraken
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                                          #21
                                          Theres more distance between you and the victim with a gun, you never have to physically be near them. Shoot the in the head and they die instantly.

                                          With a knife, you have to touch them, they're likely to grab you, you hear them scream, see their eyes
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                                          • teaserpleaser
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                                            • 08-14-08
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                                            #22
                                            Is that healthy for a child to drink coffee like that...another case of people knowing a dude is a weirdo and ignoring it the planned parenthood shooter was a weirdo as well...people if you know someone is crazy report that shit ...sure the weirdo may target you but it may save some of us.
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                                            • TheSideBet
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                                              • 08-05-15
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                              Theres more distance between you and the victim with a gun, you never have to physically be near them. Shoot the in the head and they die instantly.

                                              With a knife, you have to touch them, they're likely to grab you, you hear them scream, see their eyes
                                              You sound as if you have tried both of these?

                                              Just kidding around but I believe you might be right.
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                                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                                • 02-14-07
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by TheSideBet
                                                You sound as if you have tried both of these?

                                                Just kidding around but I believe you might be right.

                                                No doubt. Krak.. settle down. Don't be looking into peoples eyes and sh#$
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                                                • Weems2k
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-11-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Guns had nothing to do with this. If he was a friend of the family, he could have gotten as close as he wants to them, and slice their throats with a knife, whack them over the head with a hammer, etc.

                                                  There's just a lot of evil, and messed up people in this world today. Perhaps is a sign of things to come.....
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                                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
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                                                    • 11-30-08
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                                    Is that healthy for a child to drink coffee like that...another case of people knowing a dude is a weirdo and ignoring it the planned parenthood shooter was a weirdo as well...people if you know someone is crazy report that shit ...sure the weirdo may target you but it may save some of us.
                                                    Starbucks offers kid friendly drinks with no caffeine and sugar free syrups.
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