Omaha store ordered to pay shoplifter $750K

[Isaiah]

OMAHA, Neb. (AP) -- An Omaha jury has ordered a discount store to pay a man convicted of shoplifting from it $750,000 for injuries he received from a store employee who confronted him about the stolen items.
A Douglas County jury on Friday found in favor of Richard "Dave" Moore, 59, who sued ShopKo after suffering several skull fractures and a brain injury when he was thrown to the ground by a ShopKo loss-prevention officer outside a store in northwest Omaha in November 2008, the Omaha World-Herald reported (http://bit.ly/1L4RwvA ).
Moore was confronted by two security workers after they said he pilfered two pairs of personal grooming scissors from the store. One of the workers, who outweighed Moore by 100 pounds, said he threw Moore to the ground when Moore resisted going back into the store. The worker said he feared Moore would use a pair of the scissors to stab him.

The man no longer works for ShopKo. The newspaper reported that an attorney for Shopko couldn't be reached for comment. It's unclear whether the retailer will appeal.

At the trial, Shopko defended the actions of its employees, who were not sued by Moore.

Moore, who has said he has no memory of the day he was injured, pleaded no contest in 2009 to shoplifting and was fined $50.

[The Kraken]

Whats the discussion here? I agree with the verdict, surprise it wasn't more.

Do you not agree?

[SBRMAN23]

thats why they tell store clerks not to go after someone who stole something cause of this reason. It could of been more i knw its crazy cause they are committing a crime but also its to protect both parties. What if the idiot criminal has a gun and starts shooting up the place.

[Hu$tle]

Good tip will be more cautious next time i try to loot Macys

[louisvillekid]

yeh, they always tell store employees to just call police. the police can throw him to the ground, stomp his head, hell, shoot him, it don't matter for them. It will be justified in court for police.
I'm still baffled by 2 security people at a thrift store. How big are this chains stores. When I think thrift, I think Dollar tree or Dollar General, places like that. Never seen security in places like that.

[Mr KLC]

I think I'll go to the Dollar Store, and steal a Snickers in plain view. Maybe one of those minimum wage, ham and egger cashiers will follow me out there, and knock me down.

[louisvillekid]

I worked at a Dilliards part time in the 90s, and they used uniformed off duty police as security. Apparently in the men's Dept by the main parking lot entrance, alot of Hilfiger n Polo were swiped regularly.

[Isaiah]

yeh, they always tell store employees to just call police. the police can throw him to the ground, stomp his head, hell, shoot him, it don't matter for them. It will be justified in court for police.
I'm still baffled by 2 security people at a thrift store. How big are this chains stores. When I think thrift, I think Dollar tree or Dollar General, places like that. Never seen security in places like that.

Shopko isn't a thrift store, t is a regional department store similar to a Target or K-Mart.

I just wanted to see how many idiots would applaud the decision. The dumbing down of America marches madly on and on and on...

The $750,000 award will be overturned on appeal.

[louisvillekid]

Shopko isn't a thrift store, t is a regional department store similar to a Target or K-Mart.

Ok

I just wanted to see how many idiots would applaud the decision. The dumbing down of America marches madly on and on and on...

I'm not saying I agree with it. But we have lived in a litigious happy nation for awhile now. If this was pre 70s, hell, maybe even 80s. Just Regular store employees could of beat his azz, took the items back, told him he banned from store and he would of just went home with his azz beat and head down.

The $750,000 award will be overturned on appeal.

I would hope they appeal but I think it said happened in 08. It has probably already had settle offers, then trial. Lawyer fees have racked up, so store will probably hope to put it behind and move on.

[Isaiah]

I'm not saying I agree with it. But we have lived in a litigious happy nation for awhile now. If this was pre 70s, hell, maybe even 80s. Just Regular store employees could of beat his azz, took the items back, told him he banned from store and he would of just went home with his azz beat and head down..

Yes I can recall those days as well. I remember getting my azz kicked by a teacher and it wasn't a big deal. Didn't even tellmy parents about it because they would have kicked my azz all over again for doing something to get my azz kicked in the first place.

Ah the good old days. America was a much saner society back then.

[The Kraken]

So again, whats the discussion Isiah? I'm waiting for you to justify your position.

This will not be overturned

[Isaiah]

So again, whats the discussion Isiah? I'm waiting for you to justify your position.

This will not be overturned

Discussion? I quit arguing with idiots on internet forums in like 1995. It's much more fun just posting stuff and then watch morons like you get all lathered up about it. You must have lots of free time on your hands.

[chipper]

That's terrible! Hopefully they will appeal the judgement and win. As they say "Crime doesn't pay!" ... or does it?!? It damn well shouldn't!

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Discussion? I quit arguing with idiots on internet forums in like 1995. It's much more fun just posting stuff and then watch morons like you get all lathered up about it. You must have lots of free time on your hands.

sounds like you have tons of free time!!, hanging on forums since 95 looking for a reaction... lol

[rkelly110]

Well, we can look at it like this. If you were in a car accident, your fault or not and was debilitated from it and couldn't work the rest of your life, the lawyer will ask for pain and suffering and loss of income to determine the award.

The same could be said for the shoplifter, though his fault, he was debilitated by security.

Mostly these cases sue the insurance companies. The store might've had a million dollar liability policy.

I'm not a lawyer, but I stayed in a Holiday inn once.

[downsouth]

You supposed to just let them steal. Duh.

Because you know police have the resources to diligently pursue these criminals.

Man our world gets more fukked up by the day.

[The Kraken]

sounds like you have tons of free time!!, hanging on forums since 95 looking for a reaction... lol

Guy has enough time to troll by starting threads he has no intention of participating in, at least intelligently, but he doesn't have the time to type a sentence or two saying why believes the guy that suffered brain damage should not have been awarded any money.

He's an Alex Jones groupie, so this does not surprise me

[Kermit]

A friend of my fathers got sued back in the 90's for beating the shit out of a guy that broke into his house. he came home early and caught one of the guys, but the other one escaped.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

A friend of my fathers got sued back in the 90's for beating the shit out of a guy that broke into his house. he came home early and caught one of the guys, but the other one escaped.

i met a guy once who was very familiar with these types of situations, he told me in a case of home invasion, armed robbery etc, it is better for the victim if the courts hear only one side of the story....

[Kermit]

i met a guy once who was very familiar with these types of situations, he told me in a case of home invasion, armed robbery etc, it is better for the victim if the courts hear only one side of the story....

Yeah, I've also been told that several times over the years.

[marcoloco]

i met a guy once who was very familiar with these types of situations, he told me in a case of home invasion, armed robbery etc, it is better for the victim if the courts hear only one side of the story....

[jtoler]

Small verdict, should have been awarded more, brain damage? Sheesh.

[Isaiah]

sounds like you have tons of free time!!, hanging on forums since 95 looking for a reaction... lol

Lots of time? Takes less than 60 seconds to cut and paste something and hit the post tab. Then sit back and watch the stupid lemmingsfollow up with red faced long and detailed rants that take them 10 minutes or more to compose. Then I don't even read them.

You stupid sock puppets are so dense you don't even know you are having their strings pulled.

[Isaiah]

Guy has enough time to troll by starting threads he has no intention of participating in, at least intelligently, but he doesn't have the time to type a sentence or two saying why believes the guy that suffered brain damage should not have been awarded any money.

Okay here is your sentence Sparky:

The piece of shit thief who possessed knives should have been killed for threatening the lives of the good guys.

[The Kraken]

The guy stole some scissors, according to the arricle, and nowhere does it say he threatened anyone with them, nor does it imply anyones life was threatened.

The big security guard was simply scared, he acted out of fear, that does not justify his actions. Last time I checked, walking around with scissors isn't against the law. No one has the right to assault you, or the thief, simply because they're afraid of what he might do with them.

If you're scared, call the cops and let them deal with it. As Toler said, this was a small settlement.

If the guy pulledbout the scissors and tried to stab the security guard, then I change my opinion, but until I read that, I think this is clear cut.

[packerd_00]

Assaulting the guy over a couple pairs of scissors,what a dumb ass.

[sshz]

Of course this will be reversed or at the least, the amount will be lowered to some token amount like $10K to pay for medical fees. If nothing else, it will be tied up in court for a few years.

[muldoon]

token amount like $10K to pay for medical fees.

Not sure how much "severe skull fracture and brain injury" cost in pre-obamacare days, but I'm pretty sure it was more than 10 grand.

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

Lots of time? Takes less than 60 seconds to cut and paste something and hit the post tab. Then sit back and watch the stupid lemmingsfollow up with red faced long and detailed rants that take them 10 minutes or more to compose. Then I don't even read them.

You stupid sock puppets are so dense you don't even know you are having their strings pulled.

been doing this since 95 huh? lol...pretty cool

[NrmlCurvSurfr]

i don't even care if you are a ghost and are fishing for posts/clicks whatever...at least do a better job, go big like jj and just post the opposite of what you know is true...i feel that at least draws more reactions...if you are going to do this, at least be good at it! C'mon MAN!

[Isaiah]

i don't even care if you are a ghost and are fishing for posts/clicks whatever...at least do a better job, go big like jj and just post the opposite of what you know is true...i feel that at least draws more reactions...if you are going to do this, at least be good at it! C'mon MAN!

Nah. This place is too lame to devote the necessary effort to make it really entertaining. 60 seconds of my time per post is already too much. Anyway SBR deletes my best work so why bother.

Thanks for your input.

[Swinging Johnson]

Discussion? I quit arguing with idiots on internet forums in like 1995. It's much more fun just posting stuff and then watch morons like you get all lathered up about it. You must have lots of free time on your hands.

Breaking News: You're arguing.

[Isaiah]

Nah. This place is too lame to devote the necessary effort to make it really entertaining.

See post #32 for proof positive of above statement.

[Swinging Johnson]

See post 33 that you answered immediately after post 32

[sourtwist]

Whats the discussion here? I agree with the verdict, surprise it wasn't more.

Do you not agree?

You're fukkin nuts.

You've lost it.

Still love you, but you're out of your mind.

Lmk when in NY.