was about to post the video
yet another example of the police state we are in.
yet another example of the police state we are in.
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This vid is really sad to watch and yet there'll be some out there who will still make excuses for the cop. Thankfully he has at least been fired and charged. All these arguments we hear about how there are incompetent or rogue people in any profession and the majority of cops are good ones. Even the ones wearing "We are Darren Wilson" wristbands in Ferguson this week while they're supposed to be "people of the community" merely observing protestors. Just the stupidity and insensitivity alone should warrant them not fit to serve. Luckily they got reamed out for it by Johnson after he was inundated with proof but still they're patrolling the streets. These are the people supposedly serving the community. They all should get the benefit of the doubt apparently since other professions have dickwads too. But a shifty garbage truck driver or accountant doesn't carry a gun and have the ability to shoot and/or kill or plant evidence or destroy evidence or terrorize you due to their supposed "incompetency". One racist or idiot or rogue cop in any police force is too many.
Columbia, SC (WLTX) - Former South Carolina trooper Sean Groubert is now waiting for his day in court in connection with the shooting of an unarmed man following a seat belt violation.
The 31-year-old was charged Wednesday with assault and battery of a high and aggravated nature, a felony charge that carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison. He'd been fired the previous week by the South Carolina Department of Public Safety, who said he violated protocols for the use of force.
Groubert's attorney, Barney Giese, said at a bond hearing Wednesday that his client was not guilty and was justified in his actions.
Hours after charges were announced, a dash cam video showing Groubert firing at 35-year-old Levar Jones was released by the local solicitor's office. That video has gone viral on social media sites and has been replayed over-and-over on newscasts around the world.
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Just seen on the news that South Carolina cop had received a medal of valor for an incident that took place a couple years ago. He stopped a guy for a high rate of speed and the guy took off and the cop chased him and when he finally got him stopped at a bank, the man tried to go into the bank and shot at the cop. The cop shot an injured the man before he could get into the bank.
One minute you are a hero and the next minute you over react and get put in jail.Comment -
Sad part is this was all over a seatbelt. Something I think most of us would admit doing... undoing your seatbelt as you enter the parking lot of a gas station so it'd be quicker for you to get in or out. Was Lemar racially profiled or was the cop merely trying to meet a quota? Either explanation sucks ass because they're horrible. If I were pulled over at a petrol station and reached into the car like he did after being told to get my license - simple fact is you'd never hear about it because you can bet your life I wouldn't have been shot or even harassed. The guy did nothing dodgy in that vid. All those shots he fired the cop's lucky that most of them missed.Comment -
cops are notorious for killing all types of race in a questionable mannerLast edited by Fidel_CashFlow; 09-26-14, 09:48 AM.Comment -
Yea it's VERY odd for a trooper, not a city police officer or sheriff deputy, to make that type of stop to begin with. And while I can see the jumping into the car sort of fast as he did, even when asked to do so, might have thrown up a red flag, not one to shoot but more to just do the basic restraint. Same as if I'm directly in front of you and you reach into your pocket fast...you don't step away draw and fire you close simply restrain. Lucky the stray bullets didn't strike an innocent bystander. Just a bad stop and control of the situation from all angles by the Trooper.Comment -
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Exactly Shari thats the whole point and the point many choose to ignore, that if it had been you reaching the same way for your license nothing would have happened.Comment -
Killed for what though? Ive seen vids of unarmed black males killed by cops more than anything hard trying to find any vid of an unarmed white male killed. Also the U.S. is 77% white and only 13% black, so if there were twice as many(which is hard to believe to me) thats still a glaringly low stat given the demographics.Comment -
Well then you also have to take into account that amount of crime that each side is involved in that could lead to someone of that race getting killed. That small 13% is getting involved in the same amount of violent crime as the 77% of white people. That is the problem.
If blacks were committing the same amount of crime based on their population as white people, I don't think their group would get the profiling and stereotyping that they are because the crimes would be less of an occurrence.
As far as who the cops are killing more of, if you don't believe it, look it up.Comment -
Honestly I do think many get it... or at least those in this thread. (I'm on my phone so apologies if spelling is off!)
The big things with the Ferguson case are the lack of dash or officer cam vid, that shithouse blog creating the lie about the "blown orbital socket", people not watching the live streams and main stream media saying they're not going to bother with Ferguson until the Grand Jury gives a decision.
I watch the live streams every night. It's a much different story than what I see MSM report if they even bother to the next day. Then they throw corrections in and obviously everyone's stuck with the first story regardless. That orbital blowout of Wilson's eye supposedly was the best one. Pics proven to be taken from 8+ years ago but still many ran with it. Not much you can do.
Funny thing is I don't even see it as a race thing. This case has been bunged from the start and if it were my kid, my white child, I'd be disgusted. Jackson FINALLY apologised this week for leaving Mike's body out there in the street for 4 hours but that was after weeks of the cops saying it was all lies... his body was transported immediately. Weeks and weeks of lies about something as simple as this when many had it on tape?! And yet people wonder why the community has no faith in the judicial system even ignoring the outrageous stop and arrest rate of blacks - cases that were later found to be baseless - prior to this in Ferguson.
I don't think people in this specific thread are racist. Outside of here, yeah there are many and we try to contain them, but everyone in here has been pretty cool even when disagreeing. I somehow know many of the ppl in here posting regularly and while you never really know someone online, the last thing I'd say is that they're racist.
However I do think that many of you are getting spoon fed pieces from the media instead of watching the live feeds each night. Yes the Beauty Shop was looted... but YES the Chicago based Revolution against something or other took responsibility for it. A bunch of white guys incidentally. The same ones that people on the strrets of Ferguson have been reporting to the cops for throwing Molotov cocktails, bottles, being aggressive... one even said he was "hiding behind the black kid" etc. They're on vid admitting to this shit and even worse you can see them do it going back to like the 2nd day when Ferguson popped off when the FBI said the "instigators" all had out of state plates and no one arrested was from Ferguson.
But get a snippet of the situation and it just seems like chaos and shitheads robbing a weave store. This is the same shop that like 90 locals stood outside and protected from being looted and it was broadcast on BBC because it was the night the Al Jazeera chick got arrested... you think they'd turn against their own?
Anyway, for those who want to know the truth and see it for their own eyes there are live feeds. For those who get what MSM serves up, I get why you feel the way you do. But please just recognize that's not the full story for better or worse. Shit, without that dashcam vid of Jemar I know for a fact most of you would've been slaying him but if you tell me you agree with what happened, you're full of shit. Don't rush to judge simply because of a dude's skin color regardless of what it is.Last edited by shari91; 09-26-14, 11:04 AM.Comment -
Probably talking about the "There is 5X the amount of white people in the US, yet blacks are committing an equal amount of crime" (or at least getting caught/imprisoned)
Blacks don't wanna hear that stat anymore and of course it's because blacks are targeted more than white people, that's why the numbers are so ridiculous.Comment -
The drugs in that study consisted of all drugs, cocaine mostly. I worked with a lady who used to be a dispatcher, she told of lots of crazy stuff that came from calls they would get that youd never see on the news, but all you saw on the news and in the paper were 95% blacks, thats no lie. Have some stories of my own but Ill leave it at that.Comment -
New video, noid cop and man at gas station,
This cop specifically asked the guy to get his license, "not everyone keeps it in back pocket, including myself".
Guy turns around to get it and noid cop starts firing, way to jumpy these cops are right now, they need to calm down, calm down.... Could've killed this guy, over absolutely nothing.., again you signed up for high pressure, learn how to think under it..calm downComment -
Yeah the eye socket thing was debunked right away. Someone did a reverse image search and found it from an old medical paper from either the Uni of Ohio or Iowa (can't remember which one!) from like 1998 and Fox who was the main station that ran with it did one of those mumble apologies that you'd miss it if you blinked. Because the first story about the supposed blown orbital socket had aired multiple times, even though it was bullshit that's what obviously stuck in peoples' heads. To be fair though, other stations ran with it too although they cottoned on days before Fox did.
But again, people only hear the first story and run with it.Comment -
First off, agreed it wasn't as massive and chaotic as the news made it to be...was like what a block or half a block that was gated off for people to walk laps in and protest by night and the media even commented they'd all walk a street over and life was normal, they'd hook up and submit their stories for the morning and then go back to the tiny area again for more coverage they basically were creating themselves by being there.
On the eye socket piece....are you saying he wasn't injured at all...or just that the specific injury blogged about was inaccurate? I haven't heard anything debunking the fact he sought medical attention and the chief even said in the conference that he himself drove Wilson to the hospital from the scene with the injury to the face, whatever it may be?
The only video debunking attempt I saw, was a back and forth with Ed Schultz and Mike Papantonio showing a clip of a generic white cop walking around the body of Brown, way after the incident because multiple units on scene and police tape up, blanket covering the body in the street etc....taken from a cell phone in an upstairs apartment...Ed and Pap kept saying "see, thats wilson immediately after, he's just walking around, no injury...he wasn't injured and doesnt seem distraught, just pacing around looking at what he did" when it was clearly not the officer involved in the shooting but that was what they put out there.Comment -
The Chief also said for the past 3 weeks? that Michael Brown's body didn't lay out on the street for 4 hours - despite all the witnesses and vid evidence - for no reason until he finally admitted the other day that it did.
Darren Wilson's neighbours are on record and will be interviewed by the GJ if they haven't been already. Some some of them have already appeared on MSM. Always have the lot of them said the same thing. No injuries to his face, definitely no friggen orbital blowout lol which has already been debunked by Ferg PD anyway, he was out mowing his lawn two days after he killed Michael Brown, hanging his clothes up to dry, etc... the only reason they clicked he was the killer was when all the other cop cars started to show up in their hood, well before the media arrived.Comment -
I never heard the PD say Brown's body wasn't in the street for awhile. They were asked about it several times during the protests and never denied it that I heard...its not unusual to have a body lay out until a scene is processed correctly though. Especially in a smaller town like Ferguson, probly not used to the same quickness as a NYPD or other large area. Coroner or someone has to verify the death, even when its obvious, pics have to be taken, scene untouched til its processed etc. I can see how its hard to watch, most deaths are inside a home or other area but if you watch the news, its routine to see bodies covered and left for awhile til its done right. Even Trayvon...remember he laid there....then was moved by someone after awhile...then removed from the scene. Its not a blockbuster news story that especially an officer involved shooting that it happened that way. If Wilson had immediately ran over and moved the body or loaded it on the first vehicle that arrived people would be screaming he tampered with evidence or why the rush to move the body, what were they hiding....etc.
On the neighbors, I haven't seen it. Not saying they didn't appear just haven't seen it personally. And whether or not it was just a black eye, a swollen cheek or an orbital blowout....really shouldnt make much difference to the grand jury. Watch a normal street fight or even a UFC show...doesn't take a skull fracture to knock someone unconcious. So even if Brown struck him once on the jaw or cheek it could have dazed him to where he was justified in thinking he was in reasonable danger of blacking out and being killed right there that day. So I won;t get too hung up on how bad the injury was.Comment -
Saw where the police chief 'incited a riot' simply because he tried to march with the protestors last night? Damn...first they criticize him for not interacting with the community so he tries to do so, after the violence has passed and settled....and they riot. He tried to give an apology by video, now he's being criticized by the black attorneys because he did so in a polo shirt and not in official police uniform...they wanted him to be less intimidating before and not look like 'the popo' so he does just that...and they still aren't happy.Comment -
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