Pacman dominated Rios. Pacman looked awesome. Floyd Mayweather stop ducking Pacman. Take your ass whooping like a man.
Stop ducking Manny.
Stop ducking Manny.
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Floyd definitely saw this post and changed his mind about the fight.Comment -
He not very happy with this threadComment -
Fraud Gayweather.Comment -
I bet he's not. Tell him I said he's a fukkin pussy for ducking Manny all this time.
Tell him I said he's an even bigger fukkin pussy for ducking Paul Williams for Paul's whole career. Especially after Paul gave an interview where he basically called Floyd a pussy for picking and choosing his fights.Comment -
IMO Floyd is super savvy and is not per se ducking manny but is letting the tension build,beating somewhat easy opponents,and letting manny wear down a bit.i think floyd woulda fought him at any point but is waiting.i think Floyd will fight him to end the career whenever that is (prolly soon, and he will prolly beat him)Comment -
Floyd is not going to fight anyone with even a remote chance to beat him. Paul Williams called him out for years. Gave interviews where he said Floyd was afraid of him. Told Floyd he'll fight him at any weight he wants. Floyd was dead silent. Still is. Lucky for him, Paul can't fight anymore after his accident.
He's doing the same with Manny. Now, even if they fight, it won't be as big as it could have been before Manny lost.Comment -
You cant be serious...Paul Williams called out ALL the top fighters and nobody would fight him..but yet you sit here and claim Floyd is the only one who was scared!!...lol..they all were dummy. And Floyd can only fight who is out there who has a chance...yall all thought Canelo would give him a fight...what happened with that? LOL...yall some funny ass clowns.Comment -
amazing.....the bullshit people buy....floyd is scared? cmon...brandon rios is a smaller margarito....way to dominate brandon fuckin rios coming off a loss to mike alvarado! sweet! oh shit pacs back! speaking of back...how about back taxes??? pretty soon floyd will be bailing out the phillipine relief fund....you know the money manny donated to it? had to be fuckin borrowed...lol......manny can stand in the ring and say "ill talk to my promoter"...then a few days later he can say hes open to fighting floyd or wanting to....that doesnt mean bob arum is going to take a penetrating step to actually make the fight happen....and hes never taken a serious step towards it in the first place....
paul williams? i like paul williams i really do....good guy and i feel bad for him.....but lets be real...this guy got outboxed by quintana(and i was at the rematch)....he was outboxed by lara......the sad thing about paul williams is he had some great advantages....physically...with height and arms....yet his style for the most part went against using them.....paul williams never trained to master nuances of the game...or work on defense...he went into the gym to work on punching...putting punches together...and stamina.....thats all he really was.....i remember watching the prefight piece before he fought lara...he said he never even watched the martinez ko...because there was nothing to learn from it...."it just happened".....really? floyd would have made williams look terrible
congrats manny pac....you just beat a 135lb champion....a guy who failed to in to win a legit 140 lb title...and you beat him at 147....awesome...no go get your finances in order.....im really glad you can say you want to fight floyd....and idiots will buy what you say....the reality is the man in charge of you still wants no part of itComment -
Floyd will win manny.Comment -
So the fact that the fighters he called out were all pussy excuses Floyd from being one? gtfo with that bullshit. Floyd was a bitch when it came to Paul and he knows it. Paul basically said he was a pussy MULTIPLE TIMES. Floyd never responded.
What's his excuse for avoiding Manny? He could have the biggest fight in history before Manny lost. Still wouldn't do it.
Straight pussy.Comment -
Floyd would have made Williams look terrible?
Then why didn't he accept Paul's multiple challenges if Paul was such easy work?
Why doesn't he accept a fight with Manny?
No, that's too much to ask for. Instead he will choose to fight some overrated bum like Amir Khan or maybe Lamont Peterson.
Bernard Hopkins called Floyd out. Floyd never responded. Surely, he's not afraid of a 48 year old, right?
SUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRREEEEEEE he's not.Comment -
what do you mean why doesnt he accept a fight with manny? seriously...are you penetrating retarded? ill tell you what...tell manny to publicly put something in writing.....and show it to the world....the terms....and if it looks good and floyd turns it down then shit...ya hes a chicken...until then all you are listening to is a bunch of bs ......you act as if its so easy to just make a fight...like floyd can snap his fingers and its a done deal.....it takes two...unless arum is willing to let it happen it wont.....how can floyd accept a fight when no one is willing to listen or propose anything???....
youll hear manny say "ya im willing to fight him"....but that means jack shit....it sounds nice and all......
pauls multiple challenges? thats wonderful....if floyd had a dime for every guy looking to make a name for themselves by using his name he could pay mannys back taxes....margarito called him out too....big penetrating deal....when the guy didnt have loaded gloves he was getting his eye battered by cotto.....margarito was another guy running his mout calling out floyd.....but hes not even close to floyds league....who cares
again...lets see arum go to the fuckin table ....and tell us what hes putting out there.....and if floyd finds a way out....then we can say hes scared or wont accept anything.....and if arum thinks hes getting 50/50 anymore....well he should be put down like a dogComment -
You're an idiot. Manny already accepted all the conditions Floyd wanted. Floyd wanted Olympic-style drug testing. Manny agreed. Floyd wanted to fight only in Vegas. Manny agreed. Manny agreed to every major principle Floyd wanted. Why didn't Floyd accept?what do you mean why doesnt he accept a fight with manny? seriously...are you penetrating retarded? ill tell you what...tell manny to publicly put something in writing.....and show it to the world....the terms....and if it looks good and floyd turns it down then shit...ya hes a chicken...until then all you are listening to is a bunch of bs ......you act as if its so easy to just make a fight...like floyd can snap his fingers and its a done deal.....it takes two...unless arum is willing to let it happen it wont.....how can floyd accept a fight when no one is willing to listen or propose anything???....
youll hear manny say "ya im willing to fight him"....but that means jack shit....it sounds nice and all......
pauls multiple challenges? thats wonderful....if floyd had a dime for every guy looking to make a name for themselves by using his name he could pay mannys back taxes....margarito called him out too....big penetrating deal....when the guy didnt have loaded gloves he was getting his eye battered by cotto.....margarito was another guy running his mout calling out floyd.....but hes not even close to floyds league....who cares
again...lets see arum go to the fuckin table ....and tell us what hes putting out there.....and if floyd finds a way out....then we can say hes scared or wont accept anything.....and if arum thinks hes getting 50/50 anymore....well he should be put down like a dog
Because he's a pussy who would rather fight guys he knows won't beat him.Comment -
lol.....yep manny "im afraid of needles" agreed to drug testing...yep...sure
manny once again with a chance to call floyd out....in front of the world...to say "i want mayweather....i wont my promoter to make it happen"..instead says "ill have to talk to my promoter"....now youll hear him saying things like "im willing to fight floyd so its up to him"
do you really think floyd is scared of pac after pac beat up some 135lb world champ thats an immobile punching bag?Comment -
like i said awhile back....once manny starts looking over his "books"...hell be begging floyd for that 40 mil he was once offeredComment -
He is a pussy who beat and outclassed every "great" fighter of his era..not counting Manny cuz he in my book aint great like the likes of Floyd, Ray lenord, Hearns etc...Floyd has beat the same guys Manny has and beat them easily...Marquez barely touched Floyd and was clearly outboxed...you can argue Marquez won all 4 fights with Manny LOL....there just arent any fighters out there with his skill set...we havent seen a fighter like him in history to be honest...the sports best counter puncher...best defensive fighter all in one...thats pretty tough to beat..you throw punches you lose...u sit back and you get outboxed. How do you beat him? Land a lucky punch or two...this is what the Pacman fans are hoping for because if it goes to the cards its Money May easily...and the fight purist know this.Comment -
Its clear you have no idea about the fight game by just reading your stuff..its either that or you have a total dislike for Floyd and I understand that lol..but dont try to lay your BS on guys who know the fight game..lol...your stance only works for casual fight fans.Comment -
You don't know shit, spook. He beat every great fighter of his era? Name a truly great fighter he ever fought? You can't.
An old Oscar De La Hoya? An old Sugar Shane Mosley? A joke Victor Ortiz? A past his prime Miguel Cotto? An overmatched Juan Manuel Marquez? A past his prime Zab Judah?
Even against Canelo, he made Canelo fight at a catchweight.
He never fights great fighters in their prime. He avoided Paul Williams like the fukkin plague. He did the same with Manny when Manny was at his peak.
Even now, in a fight with Manny, he wouldn't want it to go to the cards. Manny would throw 3 to 4 times the number of punches Floyd would and have also have the advantage in punches landed.
Floyd wouldn't beat Manny and he knows that and that's why he won't fight him. He knew he would get destroyed if he fought Paul Williams too and that's why Paul never got his shot at him.Comment -
I was interested in this fight 4 years ago. Not so much anymore.Comment -
hey asshole...is paul williams a truely great fighter? the correct answer is no...who penetrating cares
he got oscar(at his best weight) before pac...shane too(coming of a big win)...hatton as well....and the only reason he didnt get cotto first is the same reason he cant get pac.....bob wont let his guys near floyd.....you said it chief...."an overmatched marquez"....the same overmatched marquez who sparked manny.....zab was passed a prime? what was zab 29? hardly passed his physical peak....zab is probably one of the few that can truely match handspeed with floyd
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Spook? LOL...good one. Doesnt affect me that you are a bigot..karma will hit you..but anyway I said he has beat all the top fighters of his era regardless of what you think of those fighters...he didnt fight Shane or Oscar early in his career because he was at a lower weight idiot.....everyone avoided Williams smart guy...he had a unigue height and reach for a welterweight and would have caused problems for ANY fighter...THATS why nobody wanted that fight so Williams moved up to fight guys who could matchup. You are plain stupid if you think manny can box with floyd and win on the cards LOL....manny might throw alot of punches but those will be missing and with floyd the more you punch the more you miss and get HIT. Check the tape. One more thing if Floyd ducked Williams so did Manny and every other so called great fighter.Comment -
Almost everybody that Fraud Gayweather beat, ( including his girlfriend) was a "tomato can" or washed up. The facts are that he LOST to Castillo in fight 1 and he LOST to ODL...so his record isn't "perfect". The fact is also that he's afraid of Pacman,,,EVEN NOW! WHy? Because he knows manny is too quick and powerful for him and he won't be able to run like he usually does, he's going to have to stand toe to toe and fight like a man, not a sissy, which is the way he usually fights...like a GIRL!!
The Pac-man Cometh: Six Reasons Floyd Mayweather Is Scared Of Manny Pacquiao
The sport of boxing is on life support. But there’s a glimmer of hope on the horizon that might generate enough interest to revive it. It’s the ever-elusive Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pacquiao fight.
For those of you who aren’t pugilism pundits, Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather are the #1 and #2 (respectively) ranked pound-for-pound boxers in the world, and it just so happens they both fight in the welterweight division. But there’s a little problem:
Floyd Mayweather is deathly afraid of Manny Pacquiao.
Floyd Mayweather is a brilliant tactician—perhaps the greatest to ever step inside the squared circle—but tactics alone will not beat Manny Pacquiao. Unlike many of Mayweather’s previous opponents, Manny won’t lead with his chin, and won’t be ripe for counterpunching—Mayweather’s staple. Floyd has reason to be afraid.
Mayweather has a fight this weekend, but it’s not against Manny Pacquiao. In honor of this, I’m giving six reasons why he’s so scared of the Pac-man. The fight would pay Mayweather eight figures and potentially solidify his reputation as the greatest welterweight of all time, but it might never happen. So Mayweather must really be scared. Here are six reasons why he should be:
1. Manny is physically stronger than Floyd.
Mayweather himself probably wouldn’t dispute this. Manny started his career fighting at 106 pounds; now he fights at nearly 150. I’m not say that he’s taken steroids, but adding an extra 40 pounds of muscle to your initial body weight (especially on such a relatively small frame), can’t be easy to do naturally. If a 106-pound man took steroids for a few years, I’m guessing he’d probably look like Manny Pacquiao.
2. Floyd doesn’t want to jeopardize his perfect record.
When you get to a certain level of boxing, the sanctioning organizations won’t allow you to fight scrubs to pad your record. That’s why so very few boxers retire undefeated. If Floyd fights Manny, it will be the toughest fight of his career—by far. There’s a chance he’ll lose, and he knows it.
3. Floyd’s career is OVER if he loses
Manny Pacquiao has lost three times before. Each time he’s come back meaner, stronger, better. Mayweather has never really been tested in the ring, much less felt the sting of a loss. This late in his career, he’d have no idea how to deal with it. It would ruin him.
4. Manny wants to trade punches.
Manny isn’t the first boxer to want to trade punches with Mayweather, but he’s the only one fast enough to do it. When Manny connects, he connects, while “Pretty Boy” Floyd tends to score with pitty-pat jabs and lighting-fast but minimally damaging straight rights. Not a good equation for Floyd.
5. Manny has more heart than Floyd.
If Manny Pacquiao didn’t win his boxing matches as a teenager, his family didn’t eat. His country (the Phillippines) loves him—he is, after-all, a prominent politician there. He’s got an indomitable spirit. The man is heart. In contrast, Floyd Mayweather has been groomed by boxing veterans—the best in the business—since day one. It’s kind of a Rocky Balboa, Ivan Drago thing.
6. For the first time, Floyd believes an opponent can beat him.
Personally, if I were forced to wager on this fight, I’d have my money on Mayweather, but I wouldn’t be comfortable with it. It’s true Manny will be the best fighter Floyd’s ever fought, but Mayweather is the unequivocal master of peek-a-boo and counterpunch boxing; plus, he’s historically been able to frustrate every opponent with his relentless accuracy. Mayweather has distilled boxing down to a formula designed purely to boost his scorecards—not to be flashy, not to be a crowd-pleasing, only for the win. But Pacquiao can crack the formula…maybe.
So there you have it. 100 million people (although very few in this country) are demanding this fight, and they’re excited, because if it happens, it’s going to be epic. And if you have even the slightest interest in seeing boxing restored to the glorious days of old, you should be excited too.
Now quit making excuses and prove me wrong, Floyd.Comment -
weve heard all of those before...like 3 years ago....blah blah...its a bunch of rhetoric bullshit....
remember when shane mosley was coming off of pummleing margarito.....freddie roach himself said "floyd will have to get on his bike to win".....floyd came out and stated "shane dont gotta worry about me 'boxing' him or whatever"....and floyd stood in the pocket and toe to toe with someone everyone thought he was gonna have to run around and dance and potshot.....thats because he can do it all...anyway you want it...he does on his terms the way he wants to.....hed do the same to pac.....
manny has more heart? lol....thats great....hes a politician, actor, singer...lol...and his fans have made those excuses for him...."hes too distracted....his head isnt in it".....meanwhile...floyd knows how he became rich and famous...he knows where his bread is buttered.....and hes stayed true to that shit.....aint no floyd fan ever had to say "well floyd didnt look good cuz he was on dancing with the stars or in the wwf".....cause floyd trains like a broke manComment -
Paul Williams is a fighter who Floyd was scared to death of. Ducked him his whole career. Ducked Manny for the last 4 years, going on 5.
Marquez sparked Manny? Really? He was getting his ass beat the whole fight before he got lucky. Shows how much you know, stupid dikkhead.Comment -
No, not a bigot, a realist. I call it how I see it. Always. You're just another ni99er on Floyd's dikk. Period.
He could have fought Shane Mosley way earlier than he did. He chose not to. Just like he could have fought Manny 4 years ago and chose not to. The reality is Mayweather picks and chooses very carefully who he fights and when he fights them.
In other words, he's a fukkin pussy. Like most spooks are.Comment -
i saw the fight....i know quite a bit....i know that a smart fighter doesnt leave himself open to something like that with 2 seconds left in a penetrating round he was winning anyway....."ya i heard the 10 second warning...im winning this round...let me leave myself open to a vicious counter against a great counterpuncher"...lol...thats a smart fighter right there......"sparked"...laid the penetrate out.....i guess manny thought he was in the ring with hatton instead of marquez that nightComment -
and you are clueless.....and although you prove it with every reply...that one sealed in my mind.....he could have fought shane years earlier? he wanted to...he tried to.....in fact shane was asked after a fight by larry merchant about floyd.....he said he had a tootache...and that he was goin on vacation....cause the problem is....at that point shane was a bigger name...and the risk was more than the reward....it was only when the tides were turned that shane wanted anything to do with floyd and the payday.....
speaking of ducking...remember when shane was trying to get a pac fight? you probably dont cause you dont really follow the game...this was way before they actually fought(in fact after shane beat margs).....shane even went right down to wild card and asked freddie for the fight....they said...."maybe if you go down to 140" which was damn near impossible for shane at the time....shane even said hed do it but asked "how come you want me to go down there and you fought oscar at 147"...freddie said "you arent oscar".....
penetrate paul williams....he was never even close to floyds class....he isnt truely great...but im glad it makes you feel better about calling floyd a pussyComment -
LOL...you think the word spook makes me mad? Wrong...just know your karma will hit...you can bank on that one. You talked about floyd meeting canelo at a catch weight..well yea thats smart..and just shows once again you dont know jack about the game...why in the world would floyd come UP to fight a guy who the last three fights couldnt make weight at 175???..Canelo walks around easily over 180 and floyd by his own admission for the last 8 years has walked around at 150 regardless of training or not....30lbs is huge in the sport of boxing....you silly cracker!Comment -
Pretty much sums it up about this clown....he just ran into a few people who actually know the fight game not some casual fan...BTW PhillyFlyers its easy to spot the pretenders when it comes to knowing what you are talking about in boxing...its a sport where you MUST follow it to have any clue what you are talking about. I do disagree with you a lil bit Bobby heenan..Paul Williams IMO was great for a short period of time at 147..he just couldnt get any big fights because nobody wanted to fight a 6'2 welterweight lol....Comment -
i dont disagree that he was avoided to an extent....that he never got a great chance to prove himself at 147....but as ive said...this was a guy who went to the gym to work on punching....volume...and stamina.....he did have those great physical advantages....but his style often gave those advantages away....he didnt truely use them like he could have....although i guess you could say if he did guys might have been more reluctant to fight him....like i said...this was a guy that never even watched himself get ko'd by martinez after(although i guess i couldnt blame him i wouldnt have prob wanted to watch that)...but said "theres no point...nothing to learn from it".....and i knew he was in trouble against lara the moment i saw that......paul could have been a great fighterComment -
You can come up with any excuse you want to. It does not take away from the fact that Manny was handily beating Marquez up to that point. Again.
It also doesn't take away from the fact that Floyd picks and chooses his opponents very carefully. He has avoided fighters when they were in their prime in the past and he will continue to do so.Comment
