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  • thunderous
    SBR MVP
    • 06-05-12
    • 1870

    #36
    You can break it down by race if you like but it's all about an individual.
    There is no denying that gamblers are the best tippers (maybe cause it's easy money?) When I was younger my family would tip much more(and not just at restaurants) then my cousin's who were much much richer then we were.

    As for Indians and Asians not tipping enough....
    In those cultures tipping is not existent so you find a lot of Indians/Asians not tipping as generously (not that it means they get a free pass) but I think over time living here they get the memo....
    If you go to India or Thailand and such places you would see the servers are paid accordingly because there is no such system as tipping and servers making a living based on tips.
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    • Ralphie Halves
      SBR MVP
      • 12-13-09
      • 4507

      #37
      Blacks do not tip, and to rub it in, they're usually the most high-maintenance.

      All foreigners are bad tippers. Canadians and Japanese are a coin-flip, but you're normally getting hosed with the rest of them.

      Indians are by far the worst. Proud of being cheap, very high maintenance, often can't eat 90% of what's on the menu.

      Never is this 100% the case, so settle down ACLU trumpet-blowers. I would gladly treat all of them like shit if it wasn't for that handful of exceptions that really surprise you in the end. Gotta treat everyone the same no matter what.

      Been in the F&B industry 13 years boys, these are just the facts. If you worked for less than minimum wage, relied on tips, worked 5X as hard to keep these tables happy (while having to spend less time on tables that don't do you dirty as a result), and took it in the ass for your efforts over and over again, you'd be a lot less Kum-Ba-Yah too.

      Edit: If a group of French people for example come in (because this happens way too often), run up a $500 check, and leave you a $10 bill, you've actually lost money because you tip your own support staff based on your sales. Imagine that, running around ragged for a bunch of fukks with annoying social norms and LOSING money in the process.

      And other countries do it different where they're from, I get it. But it's the same as them whining about us for going over there and not knowing their language/customs. On British Airways, they even tell you when you land how to tip when you get here. They all conveniently pretend not to listen.

      People who have never done this aren't qualified to chime in. This is why I stay away from debates about union labor, I have no room to opine.
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      • ezmoney
        SBR MVP
        • 09-26-09
        • 1564

        #38
        No tippin Pippen!

        Scottie Pippen of the Bulls dynasty was known for this.

        EZ
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        • RickyRoma
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-24-13
          • 624

          #39
          I think tipping is more about what type of restaurant and community U have not as much as about race, just my opinion...I've never waited on tables so I can't speak on it too much
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          • BennyBigNuts
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-16-12
            • 8700

            #40
            2 worst tippers on the planet- blacks and Canadians.
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            • ColdBeerHere
              SBR MVP
              • 03-25-11
              • 3626

              #41
              I can also vouch for this....I am in the taxi business, and I want to say that about 95% of whites tip, and only about 20% of blacks tip....I've also talked to several other drivers, and it's the same for them as well....

              I remember way back when I started driving I would pick up any race...I also treated everyone the same..But after a while I got tired of being treated like shit from the blacks, not getting tipped, or even worse them not having money for the fare....I remember picking up some young black kid during prime time party time on a Friday night in the pouring cold rain...He came up to me acting like he was gonna start crying, and if I could pick him up....So I did, it was pouring rain I felt bad....Well as soon as that rooster_eater got in the cab his tone changed....He started ordering me to turn here, turn there....then when we got to his destination I got no tip....penetrate HIM AND penetrate THE BLACKS - CHEAP penetrating BASTARDS !!!

              I am hardly racist at all....I have a lot of black, and Indian friends....But blacks are flat out awful when it comes to tipping...It's really a joke how pathetic they are.
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              • Mr. Green
                SBR Sharp
                • 02-01-11
                • 251

                #42
                Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                Blacks do not tip, and to rub it in, they're usually the most high-maintenance.

                All foreigners are bad tippers. Canadians and Japanese are a coin-flip, but you're normally getting hosed with the rest of them.

                Indians are by far the worst. Proud of being cheap, very high maintenance, often can't eat 90% of what's on the menu.

                Never is this 100% the case, so settle down ACLU trumpet-blowers. I would gladly treat all of them like shit if it wasn't for that handful of exceptions that really surprise you in the end. Gotta treat everyone the same no matter what.

                Been in the F&B industry 13 years boys, these are just the facts. If you worked for less than minimum wage, relied on tips, worked 5X as hard to keep these tables happy (while having to spend less time on tables that don't do you dirty as a result), and took it in the ass for your efforts over and over again, you'd be a lot less Kum-Ba-Yah too.

                Edit: If a group of French people for example come in (because this happens way too often), run up a $500 check, and leave you a $10 bill, you've actually lost money because you tip your own support staff based on your sales. Imagine that, running around ragged for a bunch of fukks with annoying social norms and LOSING money in the process.

                And other countries do it different where they're from, I get it. But it's the same as them whining about us for going over there and not knowing their language/customs. On British Airways, they even tell you when you land how to tip when you get here. They all conveniently pretend not to listen.

                People who have never done this aren't qualified to chime in. This is why I stay away from debates about union labor, I have no room to opine.
                I worked in the restaurant industry for 15 years and I will vouch that this is spot on.

                I have many black friends of whom are the best of my friends who I worked with in the industry. Even black waiters/waitresses dislike waiting on black people/families. They run you ragged, treat you like you're a lowly peasant then tip terribly. This is speaking GENERALLY. I have waited on black tables before and have met really nice people that tip well...but I will say that is definitely NOT the norm. I will say old people generally don't tip well either but I attribute that, for the most part, to not keeping up with the times (ie here's a dollar, you could buy a week's worth of groceries with that back in my day!). At least they typically do not demean you. There's not much of an Indian/Asian/Arab population where I come from, so I can't really say much for them.

                If you have ever working in the industry, you usually hear something along these lines: If I could make the laws in the United States, I would put in a law that makes it mandatory for every person in the country to work just one week as a waiter or waitress just so everyone knows how demanding, physically and mentally, the job is and how much you depend on tips to survive and pay the bills. I really wish this could be done, but a week is not long enough. Try it for a year...rely on making enough money this shift to pay rent or rely on making enough money the next shift to pay the electric bill. You work the worst hours, nights and weekends, most holidays, and sometimes double shifts that may go 12 hours a day...these people bust their asses. When you're friends are at the lake on the 4th of July, or partying on a Saturday night, you are stuck at work. It sucks and I feel for them.

                For those who don't believe in tipping or think it's unnecessary, I would like for you to step back and think about the possibility of someone dear to you such as your son or daughter in the future...working as a waiter to try to make it through college. Or think about it being a single mother trying to make an earning to buy diapers for her child and put food on the table. In American society, we have set a standard that makes tipping necessary in certain services such as F&B, taxi, hotel, etc. If you can't or won't tip, then don't solicit the service. Go to fast food places or cook at home. Drive yourself.

                Lastly, another argument I hear from those who don't believe in tipping is that waiters/waitresses don't have to or aren't forced to work in restaurants for a living...get a job doing something else that pays more hourly. (1) The job market is not exactly the best right now and good decent paying jobs are hard to come by especially for those who do not have the education or qualifications for those jobs. Despite assholes out there who do not tip, luckily there are others who do and make working in the restaurant business worthwhile. That's why there are people still in the service industry. (2) However, let's say you are right...nobody is forcing waiters to work in the F&B industry...get a job doing something else. Well then, every single waiter and waitress out there quit and go do something else. Who is going to wait on you now? Nobody? No more going out to eat at a nice restaurant and enjoy a nice dining experience? A whole industry is eliminated which is not only bad for those who enjoy dining out, but also for the American economy. This is not a viable argument as well.
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                • thunderous
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-05-12
                  • 1870

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ezmoney
                  Scottie Pippen of the Bulls dynasty was known for this.

                  EZ
                  But the biggest and hence the worst is Tiger Woods. He has tried to barter tips with his autographs
                  1. Tiger Woods is a regular on every list. The 500-million-dollar baby says it’s because he never carries cash. Okay, sure, but that does not excuse his d-baggery. The Frisky reported that Woods dated “a gal in Las Vegas who had to tip for him whenever they went out,” andList of the Day said that he “pulled a mulligan on a $5 tip, re-pocketing the money meant for a waitress after realizing he had tipped her earlier that evening.”

                  And on the other hand you have someone like Mickelson who is famous for his generous tipping like leaving a $100 bill at a diner for a tab of under 10 bucks.
                  Now many people say that well guy makes millions he can tip a 100 no big deal but I think it is a big deal....it shows character
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                  • Big Bear
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 11-01-11
                    • 43253

                    #44
                    Originally posted by RubberKettle
                    Tipping should be banned.

                    But yea blacks are the worst when it comes to pretty much every social norm.
                    i tip based on service
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #45
                      btw how much do yall tip for a hair cut?
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                      • chilidog
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-05-09
                        • 10305

                        #46
                        Tipping a cab driver?? bahahahahaha.

                        What's next, tipping an airline pilot? What about the subway/tram/trains, should I tip them as well? Where does it end? Tipping is a scam; you're already getting paid a fair wage to do your job. The incentive to do well is that you get to keep your job. Don't like it? Get a better paying job.

                        Originally posted by ColdBeerHere
                        I can also vouch for this....I am in the taxi business, and I want to say that about 95% of whites tip, and only about 20% of blacks tip....I've also talked to several other drivers, and it's the same for them as well....

                        I remember way back when I started driving I would pick up any race...I also treated everyone the same..But after a while I got tired of being treated like shit from the blacks, not getting tipped, or even worse them not having money for the fare....I remember picking up some young black kid during prime time party time on a Friday night in the pouring cold rain...He came up to me acting like he was gonna start crying, and if I could pick him up....So I did, it was pouring rain I felt bad....Well as soon as that rooster_eater got in the cab his tone changed....He started ordering me to turn here, turn there....then when we got to his destination I got no tip....penetrate HIM AND penetrate THE BLACKS - CHEAP penetrating BASTARDS !!!

                        I am hardly racist at all....I have a lot of black, and Indian friends....But blacks are flat out awful when it comes to tipping...It's really a joke how pathetic they are.
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                        • greenhippo
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-15-12
                          • 9091

                          #47
                          $5-6 for a haircut. For the most part those I avoid cabs because they're already overpriced and I feel obliged to tip them on top of it. Worst thing is seeing those cups at the sandwich or coffee counters. They're not doing anything more than what they do at McDonalds, I won't tip the person taking my order at Subway more than I would the guy at the counter at Burger King. Ridiculous.
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                          • chilidog
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-05-09
                            • 10305

                            #48
                            Originally posted by greenhippo
                            $5-6 for a haircut. For the most part those I avoid cabs because they're already overpriced and I feel obliged to tip them on top of it. Worst thing is seeing those cups at the sandwich or coffee counters. They're not doing anything more than what they do at McDonalds, I won't tip the person taking my order at Subway more than I would the guy at the counter at Burger King. Ridiculous.
                            Since we tip waitstaff for taking our order and bringing us our food, shouldn't we also tip at McDonald's when they ask us to pull forward and wait while they cook our food and then bring it to your car?

                            I wish I could just tip the chef. Now that man is a person that deserves the tips. He/she is the one that makes the food delicious (or not so much). Waitstaff don't deserve a tip whatsoever. All they're doing is taking my order and bringing me my food.
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                            • offshore tyrant
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 12-19-12
                              • 86

                              #49
                              Tipping a cab driver is essential because cab drivers live on their tips . They only get small percentage of ride and rest of the time sit around because ridership is at an all time low. Also taxi and limousine businesses pay high commercial insurance rates so tips are an essential part of the business to keep their businesses going. You obviously don't know much about that type of business.
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                              • C-Gold
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-04-10
                                • 6808

                                #50
                                Originally posted by greenhippo
                                $5-6 for a haircut. For the most part those I avoid cabs because they're already overpriced and I feel obliged to tip them on top of it. Worst thing is seeing those cups at the sandwich or coffee counters. They're not doing anything more than what they do at McDonalds, I won't tip the person taking my order at Subway more than I would the guy at the counter at Burger King. Ridiculous.
                                The Mexicans at McDonalds aren't allowed to ask for tips. Vinny at the sub shop is allowed to and he does it.
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                                • C-Gold
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 09-04-10
                                  • 6808

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by thunderous
                                  But the biggest and hence the worst is Tiger Woods. He has tried to barter tips with his autographs
                                  1. Tiger Woods is a regular on every list. The 500-million-dollar baby says it’s because he never carries cash. Okay, sure, but that does not excuse his d-baggery. The Frisky reported that Woods dated “a gal in Las Vegas who had to tip for him whenever they went out,” andList of the Day said that he “pulled a mulligan on a $5 tip, re-pocketing the money meant for a waitress after realizing he had tipped her earlier that evening.”

                                  And on the other hand you have someone like Mickelson who is famous for his generous tipping like leaving a $100 bill at a diner for a tab of under 10 bucks.
                                  Now many people say that well guy makes millions he can tip a 100 no big deal but I think it is a big deal....it shows character
                                  Tiger is a legend and is the cheapest of all. If he wasn't so cheap he would be a lot richer but he wouldn't pay those girls hush money so he got caught and it cost him 1/2 his fortune.
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                                  • C-Gold
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-04-10
                                    • 6808

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by ColdBeerHere
                                    I can also vouch for this....I am in the taxi business, and I want to say that about 95% of whites tip, and only about 20% of blacks tip....I've also talked to several other drivers, and it's the same for them as well....

                                    I remember way back when I started driving I would pick up any race...I also treated everyone the same..But after a while I got tired of being treated like shit from the blacks, not getting tipped, or even worse them not having money for the fare....I remember picking up some young black kid during prime time party time on a Friday night in the pouring cold rain...He came up to me acting like he was gonna start crying, and if I could pick him up....So I did, it was pouring rain I felt bad....Well as soon as that rooster_eater got in the cab his tone changed....He started ordering me to turn here, turn there....then when we got to his destination I got no tip....penetrate HIM AND penetrate THE BLACKS - CHEAP penetrating BASTARDS !!!

                                    I am hardly racist at all....I have a lot of black, and Indian friends....But blacks are flat out awful when it comes to tipping...It's really a joke how pathetic they are.
                                    Even the black cab drivers don't want to pick up blacks because they know who tips and who doesn't. That's another big proof. Ali the cab driver doesn't give a damn about the races, all he cares about is money but these guys learn very quickly who gives up the green and who doesn't.
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                                    • ramones951
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-23-08
                                      • 2356

                                      #53
                                      Usually the ones who tell servers to get a "real job" as an excuse for bad tipping... are the same ones who would be too cheap to eat out if restaurants were forced to raise prices to compensate for paying their staff a full wage.
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                                      • greenhippo
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-15-12
                                        • 9091

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by chilidog
                                        Since we tip waitstaff for taking our order and bringing us our food, shouldn't we also tip at McDonald's when they ask us to pull forward and wait while they cook our food and then bring it to your car?

                                        I wish I could just tip the chef. Now that man is a person that deserves the tips. He/she is the one that makes the food delicious (or not so much). Waitstaff don't deserve a tip whatsoever. All they're doing is taking my order and bringing me my food.
                                        Because the staff at McDonalds doesn't walk up to your table and take your order instead of you standing in line. McDonald's staff also doesn't bring the food to the table and check to see if you need anything during the meal (condiments, refills ect) Chili you know these things.
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                                        • Jayvegas420
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-09-11
                                          • 28213

                                          #55
                                          So, McDonald's employees don't work as hard as full service restaurant employees?
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                                          • Deuce
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                                            • 01-12-08
                                            • 29843

                                            #56
                                            Every race has broke fukks that don't tip but yes black broads and Indians are by far the worst.

                                            Back in college I had a $1k order from a corporate card and it was a white broad, middle aged who tipped me $10 on it. Could have spit in her face.
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                                            • Deuce
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                                              • 01-12-08
                                              • 29843

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by offshore tyrant
                                              Tipping a cab driver is essential because cab drivers live on their tips . They only get small percentage of ride and rest of the time sit around because ridership is at an all time low. Also taxi and limousine businesses pay high commercial insurance rates so tips are an essential part of the business to keep their businesses going. You obviously don't know much about that type of business.
                                              Every job in the USA that you generally tip live off of tips. From cab drivers to pizza boys, that is essentially how they make a living.
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                                              • Bosseman22
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 09-30-09
                                                • 286

                                                #58
                                                I once tipped a women at a small restaurant in Germany and she got offended and gave me my money back. Good food and service
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                                                • chilidog
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-05-09
                                                  • 10305

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by ramones951
                                                  Usually the ones who tell servers to get a "real job" as an excuse for bad tipping... are the same ones who would be too cheap to eat out if restaurants were forced to raise prices to compensate for paying their staff a full wage.
                                                  What's your source on this?
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                                                  • chilidog
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-05-09
                                                    • 10305

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by greenhippo
                                                    Because the staff at McDonalds doesn't walk up to your table and take your order instead of you standing in line. McDonald's staff also doesn't bring the food to the table and check to see if you need anything during the meal (condiments, refills ect) Chili you know these things.
                                                    Ahh, so they deserve a tip for walking the few feet to me, vs me walking the few feet to them? And I should pay them for doing this? They're already being guaranteed the federal minimum wage, even if nobody tips them whatsoever.

                                                    So what about the postal workers that deliver our mail? UPS/Fedex? The garbage men that pickup our trash? Do they get tipped? Why not, they're coming to me and providing a service.
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                                                    • thunderous
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 06-05-12
                                                      • 1870

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Deuce
                                                      Every race has broke fukks that don't tip but yes black broads and Indians are by far the worst.

                                                      Back in college I had a $1k order from a corporate card and it was a white broad, middle aged who tipped me $10 on it. Could have spit in her face.
                                                      Yet you complain about blacks and Indians being the worst? Proves my point that it's an individual thing not a race thing.
                                                      The white broad that you are talking about gave you $10 even though it wasn't coming out from her pocket....think about it.
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                                                      • SharpBoxing
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                                                        • 10-28-11
                                                        • 1515

                                                        #62
                                                        Europeans who visit the United States wont probably tip that much because we are not used of tipping. Waiters here make enough money without tips
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                                                        • marcoloco
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-05-10
                                                          • 3986

                                                          #63
                                                          I seen black people tip strippers pretty well
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