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  • PAULYPOKER
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 12-06-08
    • 36581

    #1
    Some filthy facts about the rich
    Some filthy facts about the rich



    The 400 richest Americans made $200 billion in just one year.
    That's equivalent to the combined total of the federal food stamp,
    education, and housing budgets.




    First of all, who are they? Mostly the 1%. But the top 2-5% have also done quite well, increasing their inflation-adjusted wealth by 75 percent from 1983 to 2009 while average wealth went down for 80 percent of American households. The rest of the top 20% have been prosperous, realizing a 32 percent gain in inflation-adjusted wealth since 1983.


    The facts to follow are primarily about the richest 1%, with occasional dips into the groups scrambling to make it to the top.

    1. Accumulating almost all the wealth

    As evidence of the extremes between the very rich and the rest of us, the average household net worth for the top 1% in 2009 was almost $14 million, while the average household net worth for the bottom 47% was almost ZERO. For nearly half of America, average debt is about the same as average asset ownership.

    The extremes are just as filthy at the global level. The richest 300 persons on earth (about a third of them in the US) have more money than the poorest 3 billion people. Out of all developed and undeveloped countries with at least a quarter-million adults, the U.S. has the 4th-highest degree of wealth inequality in the world, trailing only Russia, Ukraine, and Lebanon.

    2. Creating their own wealth

    In another alarming testament to wealth at the top, the richest 10% own almost 90 percent of stocks excluding pensions. Consider what that means. The stock market has historically risen three times faster than the GDP itself. Since the recession, as the US economy has "recovered," 62 percent of the gain was due to growth in the stock market, which surged as much in four years as it did during the "greatest bull market in history" from 1996 to 2000.

    Many stock owners see a couple thousand dollars added to their fortunes every time they go online.

    But that's not enough for the very rich. Thanks in good part to the derivatives market, the world's wealth has doubled in ten years, from $113 trillion to $223 trillion, and is expected to reach $330 trillion by 2017. The financial industry has figured out how to double or triple its buying power while most of the world has proportionately less.

    3. Taking ALL the income gains

    If the richest 1% had taken the same percentage of total US income in 2006 as they did in 1980, they would have taken a trillion dollars less out of the economy. Instead they tripled their share of post-tax income. And then they captured ALL the income gains in the first two years of the post-recession recovery.

    4. Donating a smaller share than the poorest Americans

    Two dependable sources provide pretty much the same information. Barclays reported that those with earnings in the top 20% donated on average 1.3 percent of their income, whereas those in the bottom 20% donated 3.2 percent. And according to the New York Times, the nonprofit Independent Sector found that households earning less than $25,000 a year gave away an average of 4.2 percent of their incomes, while those with earnings of more than $75,000 gave away 2.7 percent.

    5. Making enough to feed 800 million people

    India just approved a program to spend $4 billion a year to feed 800 million people. Half of Indian children under 5 are malnourished.

    In 2012, three members of the Walton family each made over $4 billion just from stocks and other investments. So did Charles Koch, and David Koch, and Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett, and Larry Ellison, and Michael Bloomberg, and Jeff Bezos.

    It's not the obligation of any one of these individuals to feed the world. The disgrace is in the fact that our unregulated capitalist system allows such outrageous extremes to exist.

    Here's more to provoke outrage. The 400 richest Americans made $200 billion in just one year. That's equivalent to the combined total of the federal food stamp, education, and housing budgets.

    6. Taking two-thirds of a trillion dollars in subsidies

    Even all that is not enough for the very rich. About two-thirds of nearly $1 trillion in individual "tax expenditures" (tax subsidies from special deductions, exemptions, exclusions, credits, capital gains, and loopholes) goes to the top quintile of taxpayers. An astounding 75 percent of dividend and capital gain subsidies go to the richest 1%.

    And that doesn't include business subsidies, like the $16.8 billion per year in agricultural benefits paid out to big companies and to wealthy individuals who happen to have farms in their portfolios. The filthiest fact, in terms of detestable extremes, is that much of Congress wants to cut the $4.35 a day food benefit to hungry Americans, almost half of them children, so that money can keep flowing to the top.
  • SamDiamond
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 10-19-12
    • 6107

    #2
    Pauly, you post that like its a bad thing.

    Buffett, Gates, Larry Ellison, the Koch Brothers, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin---- they earned it.

    They built/created their wealth.

    How can you not respect what they've done?
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    • rkelly110
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 10-05-09
      • 39691

      #3
      Wait, do you hear a trickle? RUN! Everyone to the money faucet!
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      • PAULYPOKER
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 12-06-08
        • 36581

        #4
        Originally posted by SamDiamond
        Pauly, you post that like its a bad thing.

        Buffett, Gates, Larry Ellison, the Koch Brothers, Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin---- they earned it.

        They built/created their wealth.

        How can you not respect what they've done?
        It's not the obligation of any one of these individuals to feed the world. The disgrace is in the fact that our unregulated capitalist system allows such outrageous extremes to exist.
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        • Ghenghis Kahn
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 19734

          #5
          yes the key word is unregulated.

          for the middles class and the poor, every fukking thing is regulated.

          for the rich, they play by their own rules.

          that pisses me off but as that old saying goes, he who has the gold, makes the rules...
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          • SamDiamond
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 10-19-12
            • 6107

            #6
            Originally posted by PAULYPOKER
            It's not the obligation of any one of these individuals to feed the world. The disgrace is in the fact that our unregulated capitalist system allows such outrageous extremes to exist.
            Jesus Christ, you're acting as if this is new?

            You think Cornelius Vanderbilt, JP Morgan, Charles Schwab, Rockefeller were different?

            This "system" is as old as our country---when only land owners were considered good enough to cast votes, this shit isn't new.

            The system works. Let it alone.
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            • rkelly110
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 10-05-09
              • 39691

              #7
              Best thing to do in this world is keep your nose on your own face. Unless someone fuks with you, then do something.

              I could care less if the rich get richer, nothing I can do about it. I can however, control what I do.

              When you worry less about what the other guy is doing, you can concentrate on your own life.

              Come dying time, as the bible says, it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
              a rich man getting into heaven.
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              • Thunder Gulch
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 08-30-10
                • 996

                #8
                Those guys also employ and therefore provide a means for the working class to make a living, and that's just their businesses. Through taxes, they fund most of the programs for people unable or unwilling to provide for themselves.
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                • Ghenghis Kahn
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 19734

                  #9
                  Originally posted by rkelly110
                  Best thing to do in this world is keep your nose on your own face. Unless someone fuks with you, then do something.

                  I could care less if the rich get richer, nothing I can do about it. I can however, control what I do.

                  When you worry less about what the other guy is doing, you can concentrate on your own life.

                  Come dying time, as the bible says, it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
                  a rich man getting into heaven.
                  stick to singing and pissing on under-aged girls pal.

                  when the rich get richer and poor get poor, there are more violent crimes that affect us all.

                  next time you get robbed, car jacked or beat up by young thugs, keep thinking it's business as usual...
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                  • CarpeDime
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-01-09
                    • 7873

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                    Best thing to do in this world is keep your nose on your own face. Unless someone fuks with you, then do something.

                    I could care less if the rich get richer, nothing I can do about it. I can however, control what I do.

                    When you worry less about what the other guy is doing, you can concentrate on your own life.

                    Come dying time, as the bible says, it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than
                    a rich man getting into heaven.
                    yes for sure, worrying about and looking to control your own life is the most important thing for any person to do

                    but as far as "Unless someone fuks with you, then do something" is kind of exactly the point

                    wall st and corporate scamming DO fuk with you - not you specifically over anyone else of course, but fuking with anyone who doesn't benefit overall from the scams

                    when wall st and financial institutions suck wealth out of the economic pie, which they do, among other things, via freerolling - a concept all gamblers can comprehend (i take a risk, if i win, i get the reward, if i lose, i dont pay) - it absolutely does come from anyone and everyone who doesn't benefit from it - in other words, you, if you don't know how you are benefiting from it

                    welfare, food stamps and all that crap "economically harms" the average person who doesn't benefit from it a teeny tiny fraction of how much the average person is "economically harmed" by wall st and corporate scams he doesn't benefit from

                    just fyi
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                    • Jefferey13
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-10-13
                      • 624

                      #11
                      Ya I love this mentality. Just split the money equally between everyone regardless of merit.
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                      • CarpeDime
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-01-09
                        • 7873

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jefferey13
                        Ya I love this mentality. Just split the money equally between everyone regardless of merit.
                        no one is saying that

                        they are saying stealing, scamming and bribing shouldn't be allowed, even if it's rich people doing it, and even if they are doing it in an impressively slick way
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                        • SamDiamond
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 10-19-12
                          • 6107

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CarpeDime
                          no one is saying that

                          they are saying stealing, scamming and bribing shouldn't be allowed, even if it's rich people doing it, and even if they are doing it in an impressively slick way
                          I'm not in favor of "stealing/scamming/bribing"--- but before anyone gets angry at Buffett/Ellison/Gates/Koch Bros/Bezos----let's look back at the history of our country and what guys like Vanderbilt and Rockefeller did, it makes our current list of Billionaires look like Buddhist Monks.

                          And-- take a close look at what Gates and Buffett have done with their wealth---- you could make a case they have been more efficient and better custodians of their fortunes than ANY social program ever created by any government.
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