SBR is officially over............

[Mikeyanks23]

thanks for the kind words deemer

but i couldnt pick a winner to save my life the last 2 weeks

[Robber]

Isn't Paula the one who keeps making threads saying she's leaving but never does?


Are Paula and Emily sisters?

[Ghenghis Kahn]

[PAULYPOKER]

I dedicate this great ballad to ALL of you beautiful people(in your own way shape and form) of SBR....

I love you ALL!
Rusted Root 11-30-96 "Beautiful People"

I feel every word from this TRUTHFUL ballad best describes me and my
perception of SBR bretheren.........

Come and hear the funeral marchin’

Maybe this is your-my suicide

Maybe this is more pure

Pure and simple

Maybe this is all I have

Home, home, home, daddy

Why have all you beautiful people,

Brushed me on down, down

Brushed you on down

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah.

I saw the shame inside your my addiction.

Hatin’ to see what was passed on by

I saw the shame and wondered why

I should live and die.

Leave a note and tell me

Leave a note and tell me why

Leave a note and tell me

Leave a note and tell me why

Why have all you beautiful people,

Brushed me on down, down

Brushed you on down

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah.

[Smoke]

Paula has a tight pussy aaashhhhhhhhhbufdabiiii

[Chi_archie]

I dedicate this great ballad to ALL of you beautiful people(in your own way shape and form) of SBR....

I love you ALL!
Rusted Root 11-30-96 "Beautiful People"

I feel every word from this TRUTHFUL ballad best describes me and my
perception of SBR bretheren.........

Come and hear the funeral marchin’

Maybe this is your-my suicide

Maybe this is more pure

Pure and simple

Maybe this is all I have

Home, home, home, daddy

Why have all you beautiful people,

Brushed me on down, down

Brushed you on down

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah.

I saw the shame inside your my addiction.

Hatin’ to see what was passed on by

I saw the shame and wondered why

I should live and die.

Leave a note and tell me

Leave a note and tell me why

Leave a note and tell me

Leave a note and tell me why

Why have all you beautiful people,

Brushed me on down, down

Brushed you on down

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Hoo, hoo, daddy yeah

Whoo, home, home, home, daddy, yeah.

used to go see them in little concerts all the time when I was in HS and college in PA.

Ironically my wife who I didn't know at the time worked as a graphic designer for one of the member's recording label or studio...

[King Mayan]

I don't come to PT to follow some twink on a play...

Who gambles on other peoples play anyways?? I lose or win on my own shit... Fukk your plays.

DD sukk my brown nuts.

[PAULYPOKER]

used to go see them in little concerts all the time when I was in HS and college in PA.

Ironically my wife who I didn't know at the time worked as a graphic designer for one of the member's recording label or studio...

They are home grown(Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) my brother archie, witch makes me love their symbolism even more..........

[PAULYPOKER]

used to go see them in little concerts all the time when I was in HS and college in PA.

Ironically my wife who I didn't know at the time worked as a graphic designer for one of the member's recording label or studio...

I was at their New years eve PARTY 1996, in the Strip District in an abandoned industrial building(forget get the name of building though....

It was basically a Keg party,your ticket got you the cup and you pumped your own beer as if it were a neighborhood keg party....

It was awesome!!!!

It was from, I think from 8-12 midnight..........

[a4u2fear]

SBR has deteriorated because it went from jjgold to Emily Haines to phillyflyers to Brock landers to nittanylions posting in PT like they own the place, and after each poster went down, it got worse

[Dollars2Donuts]

Keep burying yourself 2400 posts in a year...thats speaks for itself kid. Go enjoy the outdoors AYE!!!!!

Funny stuff....kid...lol. I am sure if you took some time to read my thread you would find I spend enough time 'outside'. A pretty balanced life actually, please and thanks. Just back from the gym, off to a BBQ later, tomorrow is golf and then dinner out....not sure why, because I manage my time well, anyone would accuse me of anything of the sort.

Also....to Pauly...what the heck did you mean? I even complimented you, I only said I was tired of hearing all the bitching and whining.....I think you are a good enough guy, you had sent me some nice Pms, and on this site 99.5% of all of my posts refer to sports, give out piacks and try to help people.....also a decent contributor on some other people's threads....

[stevenash]

SBR has deteriorated because it went from jjgold to Emily Haines to phillyflyers to Brock landers to nittanylions posting in PT like they own the place, and after each poster went down, it got worse

And Rifleman posting non stop diarhea

[TheRifleman]

This is GREAT NEWS!!!

you are one worthless, virgin, loser....good riddance!!

[TheRifleman]

And Rifleman posting non stop diarhea

kill yourself already, you fat, brokeazz, phag

[stevenash]

kill yourself already, you fat, brokeazz, phag

See my point?

[tony_come]

A Maryland teacher doing it with family dog. Cops officially have photos

[TheRifleman]

See my point?

do you see MY POINT?

[stevenash]

do you see MY POINT?

You have no point, if somebody posts anything that remotely goes against your point of view you go on a kindegarden like perjorative laden rant. You can't go a day without calling somebody a phag, loser, fat, broke, etc. etc. etc.

You are a cancer to this forum

[PAULYPOKER]

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[pouyasophy]

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[Snowball]

I rather watch watch old people fukk than come here and post anymore..........

something tells me you already do that bro.

[flyingillini]

SBR is not even close to what it once was.

[pouyasophy]

you can thank smoke, tony come, indadrink and all those other fake gays who think they're funny for scaring off the real gamblers with their nonstop gay sex talk

[Brock Landers]

SBR is not even close to what it once was.

lets see if i can help do something about that!

[El Nino]

lets see if i can help do something about that!

Legend

Brock, is it going to be in the 90's in Oakland today?

Brock, will the ball be flying out?

Brock, do we pound the over?

[PAULYPOKER]

lets see if i can help do something about that!

BrockAyyyyyy!

[PAULYPOKER]

paulypoker i am not agreeing or disagreeing with you but this thread makes me want to do 69 with you, for real

dont know if youve ever done 69 with another dude but trust me if you havent it is some sh*t that is not like anything else you have ever done

paulypoker if you ever visit CR for a vaca hit me up bro you will be glad you did

Hey Carp,did I ever tell you the true story of my run in with Bigfoot?


I seen that hairy assed beast eating a bag of my oreos back in 72 at my hunting camp high atop the Appalachians,he stunk like a rotten cunnt on the same rag for decades.

Long story short this mother chased me down, swatted me unconscious,and that is all I can remember,until I came to and when I came to, all I could smell was shit everywhere.I was completely naked,my asshole hurt so bad I was wishing for death,I noticed it was bleeding heavier than an elephants vagina on a full flow period in the middle of a jungle . The pain became so unbearable I passed out again.

When I awakened some time much later, I could still smell shit everywhere but my ass was numb, caked with dry blood.So I gathered my senses, began to observe around me,and holy shit! I noticed the shit smell was my own!Then I noticed, I was sticky from head to toe,so I said to myself what the fukk is going on!

All of the sudden I could smell oreos mixed with shit realizing this is what was a caked sticky slimy mess all over my body.

I don't know, you tell me,do you think this hairy stinkin ass had his way with me? And if so, I wonder why to this day, why this hairy self centered prick at-least could have had the common courtesy to give me a reach around or even the slightest angst to clean me up a little after he was done...I feel like a huge weight of anxiety has been lifted from me after all these years, I am finally able to tell this horrific chapter of my life to you fine folk, my gamblin brethren.........

Thanks for listeningout.............

[PAULYPOKER]

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This is a 50% cut from just 1 year ago............

[PAULYPOKER]

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[BuddyBear]

I made one of the first posts on SBR. In fact, I may have made the very first post but that fact is lost to history. I've been here since Day 1 and have posted regularly although my positing output is considerably down from when I first started. I feel I am in a very good position to make some comments.

I tend to agree with the OP's main contention. We can disagree on how bad it is has become but the OP is generally right. Right now, the only thing keeping this forum afloat is the point program. Quite honestly, I see little point in logging in and posting unless I get points and play trivia. The current state of off shore gambling for Americans is horrible. It's prevented me from depositing anywhere because of how difficult it is too deposit and how dangerous it has become. If I am not gambling then there is little reason to post. I still trust the SBR ratings over any other ratings that are available but am less confident in SBR's ability to be impartial with the books that are advertising here than I was a few years ago. About 5 years ago SBR was rock solid with their ratings...now I've just come to accept that every now and then a book that is rated high by SBR--and a possible advertiser--is going to go under. It's a landmine for Americans and I cannot expect SBR to know every single detail.

Another problem is that SBR has lost many of the personalities that helped build the forum (e.g. JJGold, BigBoyDan, Mudcat, Pags, etc..). It's a lot like the WWF of the 1980s/90s ERA which had great character development and story lines but has now become pathetic. In the old days of the forum, there use to be good banter among posters about gambling and sports, serious discussions about the games and different sportsbooks, gambling techniques (e.g. line movement, middling, scalping, hedging, power ratings, etc...) but all those talks are usually secondary now if they even exist as such discussions have been replaced by more pop culture/non-sports gambling talk that dominate the forum. Part of the problem is when you have more and more posters it creates an environment where everyone wants to stand out. Because virtually nobody can stand out as a gambler since almost everyone loses in the long run, standing out now basically requires receiving attention through non-sports gambling ways which is the antithesis of what a sports gambling forum should be about. In the early days, it was never like that. There was a mutual respect among posters and collaboration and teamwork in breaking down the games. And edge for one, was an edge for all. Those days, it was much easier to be successful at betting on sports online. It really is close to impossible to make it online as an American sports bettor. Don't believe anyone who tells you they are "killing it" and "making a fortune" and "the books are my ATM machine" most of the people who are saying these things are compulsive liars.

The reality is ALL business fail in the end, some sooner some later but they eventually all end. I think the golden age of the gambling forum is over. Depositing is a nightmare. Withdrawals are headaches often times loaded with fees and long waits for the check to arrive which may or may not bounce. The number of books available are limited for Americans making things like line shopping nearly impossible. Even if you have multiple books, there is a good chance that many of them have the same vanilla lines. I think it is best at this point to just make gambling something for fun done occasionally for big events (e.g. the Super Bowl, March Madness, World Cup, etc...). I think at this point SBR just needs to reinvent itself into a general sports talk/pop culture forum if it has not already.

The only way I think that sports gambling forums can ever get back to the way they use to be is to legalize online sports gambling in the United States. But since it is so obvious and easy to do, we know that it will never get done since Congress is too pathetic to do that. And even then, it would be heavily taxed which is the "American way" for everything.

[hubie69]

I tend to agree with the OP's main contention. We can disagree on how bad it is has become but the OP is generally right. Right now, the only thing keeping this forum afloat is the point program. Quite honestly, I see little point in logging in and posting unless I get points and play trivia. The current state of off shore gambling for Americans is horrible. It's prevented me from depositing anywhere because of how difficult it is too deposit and how dangerous it has become. If I am not gambling then there is little reason to post. I still trust the SBR ratings over any other ratings that are available but am less confident in SBR's ability to be impartial with the books that are advertising here than I was a few years ago. About 5 years ago SBR was rock solid with their ratings...now I've just come to accept that every now and then a book that is rated high by SBR--and a possible advertiser--is going to go under. It's a landmine for Americans and I cannot expect SBR to know every single detail.

This paragraph above....just wow. 100% dead right. Well said.

Another problem is that SBR has lost many of the personalities that helped build the forum (e.g. JJGold, BigBoyDan, Mudcat, Pags, etc..). It's a lot like the WWF of the 1980s/90s ERA which had great character development and story lines but has now become pathetic. In the old days of the forum, there use to be good banter among posters about gambling and sports, serious discussions about the games and different sportsbooks, gambling techniques (e.g. line movement, middling, scalping, hedging, power ratings, etc...) but all those talks are usually secondary now if they even exist as such discussions have been replaced by more pop culture/non-sports gambling talk that dominate the forum. Part of the problem is when you have more and more posters it creates an environment where everyone wants to stand out. Because virtually nobody can stand out as a gambler since almost everyone loses in the long run, standing out now basically requires receiving attention through non-sports gambling ways which is the antithesis of what a sports gambling forum should be about. In the early days, it was never like that. There was a mutual respect among posters and collaboration and teamwork in breaking down the games. And edge for one, was an edge for all. Those days, it was much easier to be successful at betting on sports online. It really is close to impossible to make it online as an American sports bettor. Don't believe anyone who tells you they are "killing it" and "making a fortune" and "the books are my ATM machine" most of the people who are saying these things are compulsive liars.

Again Correct.

I was going to write some more to expand upon these points, but cant. This post is 100% correct and is the exact reason why SBR is down.

[PAULYPOKER]

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Well at least we can blame it on Fathers day which is a good thing.......

apparently we have a great number of loyal fathers here at SBR.......

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[GunShard]

I made one of the first posts on SBR. In fact, I may have made the very first post but that fact is lost to history. I've been here since Day 1 and have posted regularly although my positing output is considerably down from when I first started. I feel I am in a very good position to make some comments.

I tend to agree with the OP's main contention. We can disagree on how bad it is has become but the OP is generally right. Right now, the only thing keeping this forum afloat is the point program. Quite honestly, I see little point in logging in and posting unless I get points and play trivia. The current state of off shore gambling for Americans is horrible. It's prevented me from depositing anywhere because of how difficult it is too deposit and how dangerous it has become. If I am not gambling then there is little reason to post. I still trust the SBR ratings over any other ratings that are available but am less confident in SBR's ability to be impartial with the books that are advertising here than I was a few years ago. About 5 years ago SBR was rock solid with their ratings...now I've just come to accept that every now and then a book that is rated high by SBR--and a possible advertiser--is going to go under. It's a landmine for Americans and I cannot expect SBR to know every single detail.

Another problem is that SBR has lost many of the personalities that helped build the forum (e.g. JJGold, BigBoyDan, Mudcat, Pags, etc..). It's a lot like the WWF of the 1980s/90s ERA which had great character development and story lines but has now become pathetic. In the old days of the forum, there use to be good banter among posters about gambling and sports, serious discussions about the games and different sportsbooks, gambling techniques (e.g. line movement, middling, scalping, hedging, power ratings, etc...) but all those talks are usually secondary now if they even exist as such discussions have been replaced by more pop culture/non-sports gambling talk that dominate the forum. Part of the problem is when you have more and more posters it creates an environment where everyone wants to stand out. Because virtually nobody can stand out as a gambler since almost everyone loses in the long run, standing out now basically requires receiving attention through non-sports gambling ways which is the antithesis of what a sports gambling forum should be about. In the early days, it was never like that. There was a mutual respect among posters and collaboration and teamwork in breaking down the games. And edge for one, was an edge for all. Those days, it was much easier to be successful at betting on sports online. It really is close to impossible to make it online as an American sports bettor. Don't believe anyone who tells you they are "killing it" and "making a fortune" and "the books are my ATM machine" most of the people who are saying these things are compulsive liars.

The reality is ALL business fail in the end, some sooner some later but they eventually all end. I think the golden age of the gambling forum is over. Depositing is a nightmare. Withdrawals are headaches often times loaded with fees and long waits for the check to arrive which may or may not bounce. The number of books available are limited for Americans making things like line shopping nearly impossible. Even if you have multiple books, there is a good chance that many of them have the same vanilla lines. I think it is best at this point to just make gambling something for fun done occasionally for big events (e.g. the Super Bowl, March Madness, World Cup, etc...). I think at this point SBR just needs to reinvent itself into a general sports talk/pop culture forum if it has not already.

The only way I think that sports gambling forums can ever get back to the way they use to be is to legalize online sports gambling in the United States. But since it is so obvious and easy to do, we know that it will never get done since Congress is too pathetic to do that. And even then, it would be heavily taxed which is the "American way" for everything.

Well said.

[PAULYPOKER]

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