2 large explosions near finish line of Boston Marathon
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RubberKettleSBR Hall of Famer
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shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2243Boston tv saying this is the police strategy you see when you have a negotiated surrender in place. Or maybe they're attempting to get one?Comment -
PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2244
10:56 AM
The Boston Globe @BostonGlobe
Local, state and federal agencies, including Secret Service, are on scene. Dog teams, explosives experts, and SWAT members.Comment -
freeVICKSBR Hall of Famer
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FriscoSBR Hall of Famer
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#2246Why would you rob a 7-11 after pulling off a terrorist attack? Makes no senseComment -
5mike5SBR Aristocracy
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#2247The translator is for the younger bombers associate via CNN. Not the actual guy but who knows
there are more people involved than we know that's for sureComment -
PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2248
11:02 AM
NewsBreaker @NewsBreaker
BREAKING: Cop in Watertown, Mass to NBC's Kerry Sanders: "If you knew what was going on, you wouldn't be standing here right now." - @mhkingComment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#2250hope they catch this kid so they can torture some info. out of him..oh, wait, the liberals don't believe in torture....they think offering him sugar-free cookies will make them cough up their terrorist plans and designs...
WHAT MORONS...lol.
The story of Ali Soufan, a key interrogator of terrorist suspects for the FBI, is a firm rebuke to Bush-era torture policy and ongoing Islamophobia.
What is the best way to break a terrorist? Waterboarding? Stress positions? What about pizza, ice cream, or sugar-free cookies?
The most surprising element of former FBI interrogator Ali Soufan's memoir, The Black Banners: The Inside Story of 9/11 and the War Against al-Qaeda, is how receptive terrorists are to food. When Soufan takes L'Houssaine Kherchtou, an Al Qaeda fixer, out for pizza, Khertchou tells him he's "not an Al Qaeda guy anymore." Mohamed Rashed Daoud al-Owhali, who helped facilitate the bombing of the American embassy in Nairobi in 1998, spills the beans after being plied with cookies and Meals Ready to Eat. Tariq el-Sawah, captured at Tora Bora and currently detained at Guantanamo Bay, has a fondness for ice cream. And in the desperate hours immediately following the 9/11 attacks, Soufan wears down the diabetic Abu Jandal, a former bodyguard for Osama bin Laden, with sugarless cookies, establishing that Al Qaeda was indeed responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
There are other levers Soufan uses, of course, to get information out of his subjects. Khertchou is furious over bin Laden's refusal to pay for his wife's cesarean section. Owhali is overwhelmed by the quality of information the FBI has assembled. Abu Jandal, despite his fondness for bin Laden, is shocked at the scale of the attacks—particularly after Soufan manipulates him into believing that hundreds of Yemenis died in the assault on the towers. Soufan also exploits regional resentments between Al Qaeda members; the "Gulf Arabs" were frequently resentful of Egyptian members' superior influence and financial benefits, to the point that Al Qaeda would divide into Egyptian and Gulf teams for their Friday soccer games. Soufan leverages their ignorance of the Koran and uses their fidelity to extremist ideology to manipulate them into talking.
Because Soufan played a key role in investigating Al Qaeda's most successful strikes against the United States, from the East Africa embassy bombings to the 9/11 attacks, his account reads a bit like a first-person version of Lawrence Wright's The Looming Tower, a definitive book on bin Laden's terrorist movement in which Soufan figures prominently. A Lebanese immigrant and self-identified "fraternity boy," Soufan applied to the FBI armed with knowledge of Arabic, Islam, and the Middle East that would make him a crucial part of the bureau beginning in the late 1990s. His reliance on traditional methods of interrogation put him at odds with the brutal tactics implemented by the Bush administration after 9/11.
In 2009, having since retired, Soufan came forward as a key opponent of torturing suspected terrorists.
Through newspaper op-eds and congressional testimony, he argued that torture was useless, and that the
Bush administration had claimed credit for intelligence he himself had acquired without torture in order to retroactively justify its tactics. Soufan, who writes his book that he preferred Bush over Gore and identified with the "strong national security approach to the GOP," quickly became a target for the political right because of his opposition to torture. Soufan's criticism of the CIA, meanwhile, is reportedly the reason for the book's lengthy redactions of information that is already public knowledge.Last edited by TheRifleman; 04-19-13, 10:09 AM.Comment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2252Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
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#2254They probably needed cash
I wish gitmo was still open so we could send them there...Comment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#2255all this by a 19yr old virgin kid??? Are you kidding me?
Something smells REAL BAD.Comment -
freeVICKSBR Hall of Famer
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#2257this whole thing reminds me of the movie SaltComment -
5mike5SBR Aristocracy
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#2258Here is our resident looney toon rifleman chiming in. What a moron this goofy fukk is.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
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#2259age is irrelevant in proper context, like the 16 year old assassin the border patrol killed 2 or 3 years back
without doubt this a terrorist cell, these kids have been here for years and someone taught them how to make the bombs. They need to lock his uncle up and waterboard his ass if he wants to really help.Comment -
redsoxfreak91Restricted User
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#2263Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.Comment -
faceSBR Posting Legend
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#2264"it's so sad that he did this . . . blah blah blah" fuk these corny news stationsComment -
TheRiflemanSBR Hall of Famer
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#2265age is irrelevant in proper context, like the 16 year old assassin the border patrol killed 2 or 3 years back
without doubt this a terrorist cell, these kids have been here for years and someone taught them how to make the bombs. They need to lock his uncle up and waterboard his ass if he wants to really help.
Seriously. That's what they will do . They are utter morons.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
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#2267said they could have lived here as long as 10 years, so they didn't come here knowing how to make a bomb.Comment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2268Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
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#2269Comment -
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#2270
11:15 AM
NewsBreaker @NewsBreaker
DEVELOPING: Media just asked to evacuate one area of [#Watertown]. Police [said] to run, & then hit the ground. - @KimLuceyComment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2271Older brother was a father of a 2 year old? Or did I just hear that wrong? Oh please don't let this be someone's father.
Mentioned again the younger brother running over the older one as he escaped.Comment -
EaglesPhan36SBR Aristocracy
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#2272Do you believe that it is possible that they were forced into doing this. They obviously are associated with the terrorists in their home town. They are also presumed to be very nice, Americanized kids they are very intelligent. The older brother was found with burns on his chest. They had a specific plan to execute their attack, that was carefully designed by a professional, yet they were caught robbing a 7-11 and killing a police officer, rookie moves that are signs of being scared and confused. Now they are finding more in on the plan. I beleive these kids do not want this to be happening. I believe there is a bigger root.Comment -
PAULYPOKERBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2273
More from Ben Berkowitz, on scene in Cambridge, MA near Norfolk St apartment with possible family link to suspect: Eight more vehicles just arrived here, at least four (SUVs, vans, pickups) loaded with fully uniformed and flak-jacketed military and at least two with similarly turned-out FBI.
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shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#2274Local news now mentioning that social website we posted earlier. Kid was interested in money, making a good life, blah blah blahComment -
WilfredSBR MVP
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#2275Lets see what the press conference bringsComment
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