Shooting in Portland Mall

[CanuckG]

At least 2 reportedly are dead after a gunman wearing a plastic mask opened fire at a mall near Portland, Ore

[hels]

this happens like 3 times a day in Portland.

[CanuckG]

this happens like 3 times a day in Portland.

Portland violent crimes

22	231	1,005	1,796
0.04	0.40	1.72	3.08

[brooks85]

time to do what any logical liberal would do.... outlaw malls

[Seaweed]

how does this affect the spread in the Trailblazers game?

[tto827]

how does this affect the spread in the Trailblazers game?

Not really a joking matter weeder. Sad to see people do this.. You got to question WTF is wrong with the people who kill others.

[Seaweed]

Not really a joking matter weeder. Sad to see people do this.. You got to question WTF is wrong with the people who kill others.

It's crazy. I use humour to try and lighten up the situation. I don't like when people are sad.

[Cuse0323]

Saying at least 60 shots fired...piece of shit. Hopefully minimal causalities.

[tto827]

Saying at least 60 shots fired...piece of shit. Hopefully minimal causalities.

Hopefully he landed one of those in his own dome.

[Emily_Haines]

Obama needs to get the guns out of the peoples hands

Too many nut jobs these days with guns

[onacloud]

Hopefully he landed one of those in his own dome.

Why?

I would rather him suffer locked down 23-24 hours a day with zero human contact

death is an easy escape fukk that

[dice]

No public place is safe anymore. There are too many crazies out there!

[tto827]

Obama needs to get the guns out of the peoples hands

Too many nut jobs these days with guns

Criminals will always get guns, taking them away from law abiding citizens does nothing. I haven't heard of a good way to limit the guns criminals get their hands on, and that is all that matters.

[tto827]

Why?

I would rather him suffer locked down 23-24 hours a day with zero human contact

death is an easy escape fukk that

Ideally, but it'll cost the US millions for someone to argue that he is insane (which clearly he is). And then he will be all medded up in a psych ward somewhere, not worth the hassle most of the time.

[milwaukee mike]

Portland violent crimes

22	231	1,005	1,796
0.04	0.40	1.72	3.08

much different story than milwaukee, portland looks pretty much in line with the national average whereas milwaukee of course is one of the most unsafe cities in the country

Milwaukee violent crimes

94	198	2,938	3,108
0.16	0.33	4.94	5.22

Population 308,745,538United States violent crimes

14,748	84,767	367,832	778,901
0.05	0.27	1.19	2.52

hopefully the casualties are kept to a minimum

just another pointless act, not to get political but almost all of these cases involve guys on prescription meds adderall/ritulan/prozac/etc

[Emily_Haines]

Criminals will always get guns, taking them away from law abiding citizens does nothing. I haven't heard of a good way to limit the guns criminals get their hands on, and that is all that matters.

Nope. Need to take them all.

Pass super tough laws where you go to jail for 30 years even with a toy gun.

Tough talking clowns like brooks that don't want to give up their guns. Get their houses bull dozed with them in it.

[tto827]

much different story than milwaukee, portland looks pretty much in line with the national average whereas milwaukee of course is one of the most unsafe cities in the country
just another pointless act, not to get political but almost all of these cases involve guys on prescription meds adderall/ritulan/prozac/etc

Cannot draw correlation between the meds and the act though Mike. Because clearly the guy was messed up in the head, nutjobs go off, meds or no meds. Milwaukee is sketch though, I've almost been jumped twice outside of The rave/eagles club.

[Smoke]

Seaweed is sharp

[soul786]

Just saw this on tv, unreal, dumbfukk shooter is dead though, no word on whether it was a police's shot or a suicide

[milwaukee mike]

Cannot draw correlation between the meds and the act though Mike. Because clearly the guy was messed up in the head, nutjobs go off, meds or no meds. Milwaukee is sketch though, I've almost been jumped twice outside of The rave/eagles club.

watch a great documentary called "the drugging of our children" on youtube. interviews with kids and parents on psychotropic drugs, one kid in a school shooting really thought he was out hunting animals while he was roaming the halls shooting.

i agree that these kids are messed up anyway, but calling kids "add" or "adhd" or "bipolar" (none of these things are real diseases or disorders) and prescribing drugs to teenagers and younger kids has terrible consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk

[milwaukee mike]

and yeah the rave is in a pretty bad location. wisconsin ave is fine by miller park, then it's bad for 2 miles, then gets decent again at marquette campus/downtown. milwaukee is a really poor and segregated city

[onacloud]

much different story than milwaukee, portland looks pretty much in line with the national average whereas milwaukee of course is one of the most unsafe cities in the country

Milwaukee violent crimes

94	198	2,938	3,108
0.16	0.33	4.94	5.22

Population 308,745,538United States violent crimes

14,748	84,767	367,832	778,901
0.05	0.27	1.19	2.52

hopefully the casualties are kept to a minimum

just another pointless act, not to get political but almost all of these cases involve guys on prescription meds adderall/ritulan/prozac/etc

I love my adderall pop 30mg every morning

I understand the anti-depressants but has addy seriously been linked to these types of outbursts or whatever you would call this?

[tto827]

watch a great documentary called "the drugging of our children" on youtube. interviews with kids and parents on psychotropic drugs, one kid in a school shooting really thought he was out hunting animals while he was roaming the halls shooting.

i agree that these kids are messed up anyway, but calling kids "add" or "adhd" or "bipolar" (none of these things are real diseases or disorders) and prescribing drugs to teenagers and younger kids has terrible consequences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26e5PqrCePk

Bipolar I may have to disagree with you, and I will definitely check the video out after this week when I am done with finals. These drugs are nuts, I suffered from pretty bad migraines throughout all of high school, and school work lacked because of it. Went through the whole depression, ADD, psych evals. And one of my meds for migraines was an anti-depressant that I would never advise anyone to take, I woke up in tears from a dream because it seemed that real, they do mess with your head.

ADD meds work wonders, but they are extremely over-prescribed. It's all a big dilemma that I don't know the answer too.

Anytime someone mentions suicides and meds, I bring up the accutane (strongest acne med) dilemma. People have sued claiming it caused their child's suicide, and kids on accutane do commit suicide more often then the general public. But when you compare it to the actual subject group (people with acne) the numbers are actually lower.

[tto827]

I love my adderall pop 30mg every morning

I understand the anti-depressants but has addy seriously been linked to these types of outbursts or whatever you would call this?

Oh ya. Take too much addy and you could start seeing little green people on the wall... don't try it please.

[tto827]

and yeah the rave is in a pretty bad location. wisconsin ave is fine by miller park, then it's bad for 2 miles, then gets decent again at marquette campus/downtown. milwaukee is a really poor and segregated city

Ya, pretty much like Chicago and every other major cities, its got its good spots and its bad spots.

[milwaukee mike]

Ya, pretty much like Chicago and every other major cities, its got its good spots and its bad spots.

yeah i WISH milwaukee had its good spots


we were just in indianapolis, and for a similar sized city it is night and day. yes the area around the racetrack is terrible, but downtown indianapolis is so terrific. indianapolis there is nice shopping, ruth's chris and other nice restaurants, hard rock cafe, big amc movie theater - there is none of that stuff in milwaukee.

[tto827]

yeah i WISH milwaukee had its good spots


we were just in indianapolis, and for a similar sized city it is night and day. yes the area around the racetrack is terrible, but downtown indianapolis is so terrific. indianapolis there is nice shopping, ruth's chris and other nice restaurants, hard rock cafe, big amc movie theater - there is none of that stuff in milwaukee.

The area by Henry Maier Festival Park isn't too bad is it? Besides driving thru, Miller Park, some suburbs, and wherever the rave is, thats my extent of Milwaukee. Just realized I haven't come across a Michigan Ave (Chicago) like area, thought I just hadn't found it, now I am assuming it doesn't exist.

[paranoyd androyd]

calling kids "add" or "adhd" or "bipolar" (none of these things are real diseases or disorders)

i assume you believe depression and schizophrenia aren't real disorders either?

[InTheDrink]

Seaweed is sharp

[Dirty Sanchez]

how does this affect the spread in the Trailblazers game?

Yeah a funny guy....I bet the KC Chief suicide was a real knee slapper for you

[Smoke]

Seaweed has sharpest post in this thread

[milwaukee mike]

i assume you believe depression and schizophrenia aren't real disorders either?

please show me one scientific meeting where anyone ever determined how to diagnose adhd as a real disorder or illness.

why do we have to treat every minor difference along a spectrum as a "disease" or "disorder"? the answer is to medicate it, thus feeding the beast of the u.s. pharmaceutical industry.

we have the most overmedicated population in the history of the world, look at the rates of medication in the u.s. versus other major countries and look at our problems and life expectancies vs theirs.

http://www.naturalnews.com/020227_ADHD_psychiatry.html

[milwaukee mike]

and in no way did i want to turn this portland tragedy into a personal rant against prescription meds. it's a sore spot for me because i have known a few people that died either directly or indirectly because of them.

so sorry for the tangent everyone, let's focus on how to prevent these kinds of tragedies from happening in the future. WAY too many of them lately.

[InTheDrink]

first time ive ever seen add and adhd lumped with bipolar


popcorn

[Big Bear]

Criminals will always get guns, taking them away from law abiding citizens does nothing. I haven't heard of a good way to limit the guns criminals get their hands on, and that is all that matters.

exactly. Its like anything else if you want it badly enough you are going to get your hands on it. If a criminal wants a gun he is going to have one.

reading this shit makes me want to own a gun so I have one next time one of these crazy fukkers opens fire in a movie theater or mall.