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Not saying its not true, but let's hear PWAD's side of the story before we tar and feather him.
Sounds AMAZINGLY similar to the movie rounders....mike mcdermott vouched for worm, the debt was on him too.Comment -
Hope this is a warning to people in the future , never make or accept bets from anyone.Comment -
Wow if true this is very very sad.Comment -
are there any lawyers here?
legal advice would be good, what the pros and cons would be of going to the police, not from a cpa like me or general guess, actual advice.
i would think a lawyer in your area would give you a free phone consultation to see what the best thing to do is, and they can't call the cops (attorney/client privilege)Comment -
Girlfriend left over $12,000? Fukk her then!Comment -
Story seems very strange
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This is a WILD story, fellas. I apologize if its a long post, but I simply need to include all the details.......
I get a text last night around 11:00 from SBR poster Griz that seemed a little strange. Since I'm old and boring, I was already in bed and didn't see it till this morning. So as I'm driving to the office this morning at 7:00, I call Griz to see what this is all about. What I heard next blew me away.
I imagine most of us have seen the vids from Griz and Picker on how they have struck up a friendship since Picker moved to Chicago. Griz tells me he and his girlfriend have had Picker over every weekend since he moved just to be friendly. Griz also let Picker talk him into placing a few bets with his bookie for him. In fact, picker made a video just last week showing off the $3k or so that he said he had won from Griz's bookie. Griz proceeds to tell me that Picker had indeed won a little over $3k off of the guy.....that is, until now!
Last weekend Picker proceeds to lose $3300 to Griz's bookie. Griz says that Picker acted all nonchalant about it, not at all seeming concerned about the funds. It seems Picker had continued his story to Griz about how wealthy his parents are, how he has over $20k of his own in savings, etc.... So Griz isn't worried about Picker paying his debt. In fact he is so unconcerned, that he makes the unfortunate move of allowing Picker to talk him into placing an $8000 WAGER LAST NIGHT ON DENVER +3!!
I can imagine by now most of you see where this is headed.......
Griz informs me this morning that Picker began texting him around the 3rd quarter last night saying that all his stories about money have been lies, that he has no way of paying the now $12,000 debt that Griz has incurred on his behalf, and that in real life he is actually broke. Griz attempts to talk about this situation with Picker, explaining to him that this bookie is a serious guy, and that this is a very serious situation. Picker then proceeds to inform Griz that he has a medical condition that causes him to do these things, as well as the fact that he has also saved all his texts from Griz pertaining to gambling, and will not hesitate to go to the police if either Griz or the bookie attempt to harass him about this debt!
So, needless to say, Griz is seriously upset about all this. He asked me my thoughts, and I explained to him that his only course of action is to talk directly to the bookie. Explain the exact situation to him, and see if he will let him set up a payment plan. If the guy is any type of businessman, he will see that this is the best solution.
Griz asked me to post this to see if any of the brethren have found themselves in a similar situation, and if so, what they did about it. He's clearly very concerned over all this, and doesn't know what to do. I already told him there's no use in going over all the mistakes he made in getting to this point, the focus now needs to be on getting out of it.
So, boys.....anyone got any ideas for our brother Griz???
P.S. - I know some are probably questioning the validity of this story, but if you had heard the desperation in Griz's voice.....I think you'd believe its true.
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places an 8k fuking bet and can't pay are you fuking kidding me, get a computer wiz track his ip address and slice his head offComment -
Grizzer give a 12 pack of tecates with a roundtrip ticket to chicago and I'll handle that lil bitch..Comment -
Brock, are you proud? This is your boy PWAD that you touted. He's a hybrid of you, whereas you f over books, he f's over real people and books.
Griz, if you let PWAD escape, it's on you. I would never, never, let someone do this to me. You let PWAD escape and he's going to victimize someone else, a bookie, or an offshore operation.Comment -
This story could go south now
The girl thing now is making it a movieComment -
Is this really seriously?
I don't think Opal would lie about something like this but maybe it's just a joke?
If not, please see crustyme's avatar - Shari to kerry: You lie and chargebacked.
I don't like that crusty has that up there - and it was a bit awkward when so many were licking his nuts - but it's not like there weren't warnings out there about this guy. I said that ages ago.
Still hope this is a trick though. If it is, you guys are cruel. Many of us really like griz on here and don't want to see him get fukked... SBR doesn't need traffic so maybe just stop it if it's a joke. I wish the best to both guys. Reserving judgment until I believe it's legit. xoComment -
oh shit you got his cell number thats all you need, easy to track that this should be no problem to atleast get evenComment -
pwad is logged on to sbr right now. i guess this story is true since he's not defending himself itt. tsk, tsk, tsk...
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typical gambler.Comment -
Tried to warn you guys about this loser.Comment -
This is horrible all around, Sorry you got mixed up in this Griz.
I wouldn't worry about going to jail or threats of going to the police, there isn't really anything they'd do with text messages/emails other than laugh.
I don't think going to the school would be helpful.
You might want to look into reaching out to this guy's family..... you know out of concern for his "medical condition" and to let them know about the concerns you have for their son.
in any event its a shitty situation and I feel for ya BroComment -
The girl leaving could be a story killer
Opie's career on the line hereComment -
I am disgusted with myself.Comment -
I pm'd Griz a real resolution plan. I won't post here because if PWAD read it, it would be counterproductive.
Griz, a man doesn't only pay his debts...a man does not let another man, especially a frail one, do this to him. If you play the man card, play it across the board.Comment -
People die for way less. If this is true RIP to picker.Comment -
PWAD probably reading this so any advice about going to his family or whatever the kid is gonna try and sniff out. All honestly can you legally force him to pay? Doubt it.Comment -
Violence or telling family not an option. I refuse. I will not make matters worse..picker fukked me. Now.its about picking up the pieces. I repeat no violenece or smear sampaign. What can I do to fix rationally?Comment -
let's rewind
were these bets on your own account with your bookie, or did you vouch for pwad and get him set up with his own account?
if it was on your account, did the bookie know that you were making bets for a friend, or does he just think the 12,000 in losers came from you?Comment
