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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #1
    Media attacking Sweden for not locking down
    LMAO. Oh the irony. Once upon a time Sweden was a role model for the left.
  • Rain Chains
    SBR Hustler
    • 04-21-20
    • 78

    #2
    Leftists govs flexing those muscles with newfound power and looking to silence oppositional views.... hmm
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    • Unrivaled
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 10-24-11
      • 6685

      #3
      0.00025% of the population has died. Mostly old people with health problems.
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      • KVB
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 05-29-14
        • 74817

        #4
        Sweden was never a role model, I always attacked them.

        I think you liked Sweden though, Lakeshow.

        You should have liked S. Korea. They know what's up.

        In millions/per millions...

        Confirmed Population
        Deaths in million Deaths/million
        Belgium 7,501 11.42 656.71
        Spain 24,275 46.72 519.54
        Italy 27,682 60.43 458.07
        United Kingdom 26,097 66.49 392.5
        France 24,121 66.99 360.08
        Netherlands 4,711 17.23 273.4
        Ireland 1,190 4.85 245.18
        Sweden 2,462 10.18 241.77
        Switzerland 1,716 8.52 201.49
        United States 60,908 327.17 186.17

        COVID deaths worldwide were highest in Peru, topping a list that compares deaths per million in 210 countries worldwide.


        The difficulties of death figures

        This table aims to provide a complete picture on the topic, but it very much relies on data that has become more difficult to compare. As the coronavirus pandemic developed across the world, countries already used different methods to count fatalities, and they sometimes changed them during the course of the pandemic. On April 16, for example, the Chinese city of Wuhan added a 50 percent increase in their death figures to account for community deaths. These deaths occurred outside of hospitals and went unaccounted for so far. The state of New York did something similar two days before, revising their figures with 3,700 new deaths as they started to include “assumed” coronavirus victims. The United Kingdom started counting deaths in care homes and private households on April 29, adjusting their number with about 5,000 new deaths. This makes an already difficult comparison even more difficult. Belgium, for example, counts suspected coronavirus deaths in their figures, whereas other countries have not done that (yet). This means two things. First, it could have a big impact on both current as well as future figures. On April 16 already, UK health experts stated that if their numbers were corrected for community deaths like in Wuhan, the UK number would change from 205 to “above 300”. This is exactly what happened two weeks later. Second, it is difficult to pinpoint exactly which countries already have “revised” numbers (like Belgium, Wuhan or New York) and which ones do not. One work-around could be to look at (freely accessible) timelines that track the reported daily increase of deaths in certain countries. Several of these are available on our platform, such as for Belgium, Italy, Spain and Sweden. A sudden large increase might be an indicator that the domestic sources changed their methodology.

        Where are these numbers coming from?

        The numbers shown here were collected by Johns Hopkins University, a source that manually checks the data with domestic health authorities. For the majority of countries, this is from national authorities. In some cases, like China, the United States, Canada or Australia, city reports or other various state authorities were consulted. In this statistic, these separately reported numbers were put together. For more information or other freely accessible content, please visit our dedicated Facts and Figures page.
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        • lakerboy
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 04-02-09
          • 94379

          #5
          KVB south Korea did a tremendous job. They were scared to death from the Sars experience so the population had no issue with contact tracing and all the infringement on privacy that goes with that.
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          • b1slickguy
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-24-11
            • 11959

            #6
            Quarantine is restricting the movements of sick people.
            Tyranny is restricting the movements of healthy people.
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            • KVB
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 05-29-14
              • 74817

              #7
              Originally posted by lakerboy
              KVB south Korea did a tremendous job. They were scared to death from the Sars experience so the population had no issue with contact tracing and all the infringement on privacy that goes with that.
              Yup, if the US can really get testing going they can move forward S Korea style and open up while quelling the hot spots.

              That would be the way to go here.

              Problem with the US is all that division you talk about and special interest. I remember Bezos talking about testing and that's what it takes. He's going to help.

              Pretty sure that putting Bezos in charge of even the smallest effort to open things up wont' go well, lol.

              He benefits more than most from things staying closed.

              Such is America.

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              • KVB
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 05-29-14
                • 74817

                #8
                I just don't want any waves to overhwelm any healthcare in any major city.

                All the deaths and the scene that follows will keep any major events with tens of thousand from happening, like sports.

                I'd hate for fear and panic to further our sports debacle.

                We need those markets to get going.
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                • Hushie
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 11-02-19
                  • 747

                  #9
                  Nurses being furloughed here in California due to no patients and no elective surgeries. What is everyone gonna do when hospitals go belly up because they have no patients and no revenue? Morons.
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                  • carolinakid
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-12-11
                    • 19106

                    #10
                    i have been busy as heck today getting everything set up for a poker game at my home tonite, it time for ck to get back to a normal thing and it all starts tonite..........
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                    • Emily_Haines
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 04-14-09
                      • 15917

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Hushie
                      Nurses being furloughed here in California due to no patients and no elective surgeries. What is everyone gonna do when hospitals go belly up because they have no patients and no revenue? Morons.
                      No patients and doing tic tok dancing videos.

                      We call them hero’s and fawn all over them with free food, free rooms and special shopping hours.
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                      • TommieGunshot
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 1603

                        #12
                        All the liberals, like the media and Trump really hate the idea that of a country like Sweden giving its citizens freedom than America. Here is Trump saying how Sweden screwed up so much by not shutting down: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...25648448348161
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63165

                          #13
                          Originally posted by KVB
                          I just don't want any waves to overhwelm any healthcare in any major city.

                          All the deaths and the scene that follows will keep any major events with tens of thousand from happening, like sports.

                          I'd hate for fear and panic to further our sports debacle.

                          We need those markets to get going.

                          this is my thinking

                          with the way the media and politics works

                          if we get a 2nd wave outbreak anywhere, especially a major sports city. The Hysteria will set sports back significantly. The Atlantic is starting to come down from their peaks. the rest of the country seems to be starting to ramp up to peaks in deaths, but simultaneously be chomping at the bit if not already opening up.

                          The timing is all fuked up and could really hurt us as far as getting sports with no fans back.
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                          • KVB
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 05-29-14
                            • 74817

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chi_archie
                            this is my thinking

                            with the way the media and politics works

                            if we get a 2nd wave outbreak anywhere, especially a major sports city. The Hysteria will set sports back significantly. The Atlantic is starting to come down from their peaks. the rest of the country seems to be starting to ramp up to peaks in deaths, but simultaneously be chomping at the bit if not already opening up.

                            The timing is all fuked up and could really hurt us as far as getting sports with no fans back.
                            Agreed. There's just a storm brewing that could be shitty if all the pieces fal into that line.
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                            • astrobloke
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-17-10
                              • 1928

                              #15
                              Originally posted by carolinakid
                              i have been busy as heck today getting everything set up for a poker game at my home tonite, it time for ck to get back to a normal thing and it all starts tonite..........
                              have fun bro
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                              • SBR_Guest_Pro
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-10-15
                                • 3955

                                #16
                                they deserve to open
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                                • cincinnatikid513
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-23-17
                                  • 45360

                                  #17
                                  did u turn in ur guns yet lakerboy canada going soft
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                                  • lonegambler23
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-22-16
                                    • 9760

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by carolinakid
                                    i have been busy as heck today getting everything set up for a poker game at my home tonite, it time for ck to get back to a normal thing and it all starts tonite..........
                                    is everyone wearing masks and gloves?
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #19
                                      Sweden is proving to the world that you don't need to shut down a Country because of Corona.
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #20
                                        Jibby correct

                                        We
                                        Fuked up
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                                        • Mike Huntertz
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 08-19-09
                                          • 11207

                                          #21
                                          Or the other way around?
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Sweden is proving to the world that you don't need to shut down a Country because of Corona.
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                                          • JIBBBY
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 12-10-09
                                            • 83686

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                            Or the other way around?
                                            Their numbers of Corona deaths to date aren't any higher then any other Country per pollution count.. They are holding around the average..

                                            Swedes don't even wear masks and or social distance either..
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #23
                                              My relatives in Sweden are at restaurants and bars enjoying life.
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                                              • Mike Huntertz
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 08-19-09
                                                • 11207

                                                #24
                                                The deaths aren't the same? Deaths per million pop. are:
                                                Sweden..... 263
                                                Denmark... 79
                                                Norway... .... 39

                                                USA.... 199

                                                Sweden is 30% worse than the USA. by % of population.

                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                Their numbers of Corona deaths to date aren't any higher then any other Country per pollution count.. They are holding around the average..

                                                Swedes don't even wear masks and or social distance either..
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                                                • lakerboy
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                  • 94379

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                  The deaths aren't the same? Deaths per million pop. are:
                                                  Sweden..... 263
                                                  Denmark... 79
                                                  Norway... .... 39

                                                  USA.... 199

                                                  Sweden is 30% worse than the USA. by % of population.
                                                  Why you picking countries that suit your point?

                                                  Look above at what kvb posted.

                                                  Why not compare with Belgium, Netherlands Spain
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                                                  • TommieGunshot
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 03-27-12
                                                    • 1603

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    Why you picking countries that suit your point?

                                                    Look above at what kvb posted.

                                                    Why not compare with Belgium, Netherlands Spain
                                                    Denmark and Norway (and Finland) were the countries Trump picked when he tweeted about this issue.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83686

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                      The deaths aren't the same? Deaths per million pop. are:
                                                      Sweden..... 263
                                                      Denmark... 79
                                                      Norway... .... 39

                                                      USA.... 199

                                                      Sweden is 30% worse than the USA. by % of population.
                                                      Those numbers are wrong.. Let's break it down some more in other Countries other then Sweden.. -


                                                      1) How many deaths are happening because people lost their jobs, businesses and ultimately committing suicide because of a Corona shut down economy? How many families are being ruined?

                                                      2) How many drug overdoses are occurring now because of the Corona economy being shut down?

                                                      3) How many people are dying from violent crimes also as that's on the rise because of a Corona shut down with the economy and schools?

                                                      4) How many people are dying at home from Corona now because they are afraid to go to the hospital and those numbers aren't being reported?

                                                      Etc..... I could go on and on..

                                                      So many factors to consider.. Shutting down economies I never thought was the answer!!!!
                                                      Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-01-20, 06:50 PM.
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                        Denmark and Norway (and Finland) were the countries Trump picked when he tweeted about this issue.
                                                        Denmark was the first country out of all those to shut the border down completely.

                                                        Trump is jealous of Sweden. He didn't want to close but he needed an example to justify the closure to his base .
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                                                        • TommieGunshot
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-27-12
                                                          • 1603

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Those numbers are wrong.. Let's break it down some more.. -
                                                          You didn't break anything down, you just asked questions. There should be some ways to estimate possible answers and provide sources and methods for how you came up with those answers. Until you do that, the numbers Mike gave are the best data we have.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83686

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                            You didn't break anything down, you just asked questions. There should be some ways to estimate possible answers and provide sources and methods for how you came up with those answers. Until you do that, the numbers Mike gave are the best data we have.
                                                            No the Swedes are living life as normal, have jobs, businesses and enjoying life..

                                                            USA is locked down at home, lost jobs, businesses, entertainment and many are getting depressed while going broke and being forced to stay at home...

                                                            It's a joke!!! Can't even go to the beach here now.. I'm shocked.. .03 death rate with Corona as well.. Not a life ending disease virus for the population..
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                                                            • lakerboy
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-02-09
                                                              • 94379

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                              You didn't break anything down, you just asked questions. There should be some ways to estimate possible answers and provide sources and methods for how you came up with those answers. Until you do that, the numbers Mike gave are the best data we have.
                                                              You can look at kvb post#2
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                                                              • Chi_archie
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-22-08
                                                                • 63165

                                                                #32
                                                                If you want to compare social distancing. there no more comparable countries than Sweden, Finland, and Norway.
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                                                                • TommieGunshot
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-27-12
                                                                  • 1603

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  No the Swedes are living life as normal, have jobs, businesses and enjoying life..

                                                                  USA is locked down at home, lost jobs, businesses, entertainment and many are getting depressed while going broke and being forced to stay at home...

                                                                  It's a joke!!! Can't even go to the beach here now.. I'm shocked.. .03 death rate with Corona as well.. Not a life ending disease virus for the population..
                                                                  It is absolutely true that people struggle financially and with mental health, that was happening before any of this stuff started. But you continually refuse to tell us how much of that is caused by this pandemic. Just more Liberal bullshit, basing things on how you feel more than what is actually going on.
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                                                                  • TommieGunshot
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 03-27-12
                                                                    • 1603

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    Originally posted by TommieGunshot
                                                                    You didn't break anything down, you just asked questions. There should be some ways to estimate possible answers and provide sources and methods for how you came up with those answers. Until you do that, the numbers Mike gave are the best data we have.
                                                                    That post was entirely about deaths related to coronavirus infections, not deaths related to the government intervention in response to the pandemic.
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                                                                    • lakerboy
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 04-02-09
                                                                      • 94379

                                                                      #35
                                                                      How things looking in Sweden?
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