Media attacking Sweden for not locking down

[jjgold]

looking more and more lockdowns for losers

[lakerboy]

looking more and more lockdowns for losers

JJ we have destroyed our economic situation.

[Pareto]

Todays corona deaths in Scandinavia:

Norway 0
Denmark 0
Finland 6
Sweden 117

[lakerboy]

Todays corona deaths in Scandinavia:

Norway 0
Denmark 0
Finland 6
Sweden 117

Short term thinking. Sweden will be the opposite in the fall. Herd immunity

[RudyRuetigger]

Todays corona deaths in Scandinavia:

Norway 0
Denmark 0
Finland 6
Sweden 117

Short term thinking. Sweden will be the opposite in the fall. Herd immunity

that is from "corona"

what about other areas of concern where people needed surgery?

dont worry fukkwad, when world war 3 starts, we will back your scrawny ass again so go sing cumbaya

[Rain Chains]

Short term thinking. Sweden will be the opposite in the fall. Herd immunity

Yup, no second wave if immunity holds

[Pareto]

that is from "corona"

what about other areas of concern where people needed surgery?

dont worry fukkwad, when world war 3 starts, we will back your scrawny ass again so go sing cumbaya

Im guessing you are english? You know the country that declared war on Hitler immediately when he attacked Poland. Instead of the americans who waited several years, and didnt join WW2 until Japan attacked them AND Hitler declared war on them.

So yes, if you are english then thank you for your help. If you are american then go fukk yourself you coward.

[Luv2Play2]

this is my thinking<br>
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with the way the media and politics works ..i live in fla.. 20 mins from the trop.. 30 from r.james.. 30 mins from amalie arena.. 20 mins from the rowdies stadium.. another 3 venues !!!! phillies / yankees / jays all 30 mins or less pinellas county has opened up we will see if all the BS is true !!!<br>
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if we get a 2nd wave outbreak anywhere, especially a major sports city. The Hysteria will set sports back significantly. The Atlantic is starting to come down from their peaks. the rest of the country seems to be starting to ramp up to peaks in deaths, but simultaneously be chomping at the bit if not already opening up.<br>
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The timing is all fuked up and could really hurt us as far as getting sports with no fans back.

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[Luv2Play2]

gov. desantis offered up the state of fla to bring any team that wants to play come here.. florida is probably #1 in sports training facilities/ i believe.. only city in fla thats fuced up is miami.. shit go figure.. i dont even go to that shit hole

[blackbart]

Sweden’s decision to go with voluntary lockdowns...has resulted in the highest number of COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe but little of the hoped-for “herd immunity” benefits.

[blackbart]

Sweden’s decision to go with voluntary lockdowns — instead of the mandatory measures implemented in other countries — has resulted in the highest number of COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe but little of the hoped-for “herd immunity” benefits.
A Swedish study found that only 7.3 percent of Stockholmers had developed coronavirus-fighting antibodies by late April, Reuters reports.
The low percentage runs counter to the strategy of the country’s chief epidemiologist, who’d predicted that by keeping schools, restaurants, bars and businesses open, enough people would soon develop immunity to the infection to slow the disease from spreading catastrophically.
Sweden’s death toll stood at 3,871 on Thursday afternoon, three times more than in its Nordic neighbors — Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland — combined, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The number of confirmed cases in the country is at least 32,172.
The World Health Organization has warned against pinning hopes on herd immunity.
It said last week global studies had found antibodies in only 1-10 percent of the population, results in line with recent findings in Spain and Franc

[PAULYPOKER]

that is from "corona"

what about other areas of concern where people needed surgery?

dont worry fukkwad, when world war 3 starts, we will back your scrawny ass again so go sing cumbaya

Hospitals only postpone "non-emergency procedures" you fukkin idiot!

Operations like elective and dental surgeries.....

[PAULYPOKER]

Blood-clotting complications is killing coronavirus patients ...

They've since seen how covid-19 attacks not only the lungs,
but also the kidneys, ... and other hemorrhagic fevers that lead
to uncontrolled bleeding. ...

[PAULYPOKER]

Originally Posted by PAULYPOKER

Serious/Critical

4/11

4/12

4/13

4/14

4/15

4/16

4/17

4/18

4/19

4/20

4/21

4/22

4/23

4/24

4/25

4/26

4/27

4/28

4/29

4/30

5/01

5/02

5/03

5/04

5/05

5/06

5/08

5/09

5/10

5/11

11,471

11,766

12,772!!

1,006 spike in 24 hrs.......(295 spike between 4/11- 4/12.......)

Don't know if this is normal as I just starting paying attention
to Serious/Critical on 4/11......

Serious/Critical 16,179 5/5/20

just keeps climbing..........

Serious/Critical still climbing 16,879.........
05-19-20 05:44 PM

These are the only numbers worth noting as of late IMO......

I mean if cases/per day peaked why haven't the Serious/Critical per day peaked?
Serious/Critical still climbing 17,875!!!!!!!!

[wakefield23]

Sweden’s decision to go with voluntary lockdowns...has resulted in the highest number of COVID-19 deaths per capita in Europe but little of the hoped-for “herd immunity” benefits.

That's just not true

Why are you lying, fucktard?

[RudyRuetigger]

i remember back when pauly said death rate was about 60%

and d2bets said itll only rise from there

[semibluff]

Way too early to tell how things will look in a month or a year's time. Countries that were hit early have recovered early. Countries that were hit later are only now seeing decreases in death rates. The last countries to be hit are the poorest countries and those countries haven't reached the peak yet. Generally countries hit later were hit harder. If there is a 2nd/3rd wave then herd immunity may play a factor. Since it requires a large number who are immune it may well not help. It's just way too early to know what is right and what is wrong. The smart move is to be cautious.

[lakerboy]

The virus clearly burns through an area and moves on. If you can't see that I can't help you.

[PAULYPOKER]

i remember back when pauly said death rate was about 60%

and d2bets said itll only rise from there

It was idiot as the US death rate changes everyday......

Today the US death rate is 20.1% which is still VERY high...........





Russia's death rate is 3.2%........

[lakerboy]

It was idiot as the US death rate changes everyday......

Today the US death rate is 20.1% which is still VERY high...........





Russia's death rate is 3.2%........

Russia is full of shit and you know it. They have 300000 cases. The head doctor in Moscow already said the numbers are wrong. You need to stop using the closed cases for death rate as you know the number goes down slowly as most recover.

[Luv2Play2]

It was idiot as the US death rate changes everyday......

Today the US death rate is 20.1% which is still VERY high...........





Russia's death rate is 3.2%........

pauly whats the tourist rate in russia ? guess what usa is ? now do the math!!

[PAULYPOKER]

Russia is full of shit and you know it. They have 300000 cases. The head doctor in Moscow already said the numbers are wrong. You need to stop using the closed cases for death rate as you know the number goes down slowly as most recover.

Recoveries + Deaths are the only numbers you can use to calculate death rate..

What do you wanna use?

The total US population 330,785,250?

Lol........

You wanna guess the outcomes of the total
US active cases 1,140,701 as well?

Lol.....

The whole world is conspiring against the US by fudging their numbers?

GTFO.........Lol........

[rickie65]

Today the US death rate is 20.1% which is still VERY high...........

20.1% of what?? certainly you can't be saying 20.1 of people with the virus are dying. More people have the virus with no symptoms than die from it

[PAULYPOKER]

How bout your country LB......

Are they lying too with a 12.8% death rate?

Only 6,149 total deaths is a lie too?

[lakerboy]

Recoveries + Deaths are the only numbers you can use to calculate death rate..

What do you wanna use?

The total US population 330,785,250?

Lol........

You wanna guess the outcomes of the total
US active cases 1,140,701 as well?

Lol.....

The whole world is conspiring against the US by fudging their numbers?

GTFO.........Lol........

Paul u need help man. Remember when you said the death rate as 30%? Even by your own closed cases thought process it's 20%, now and that will keep going down.


Here

[lakerboy]

So you think the world is going to have 2% or less and the USA will be at 20%?

Carry on

[rickie65]

Way too early to tell how things will look in a month or a year's time. Countries that were hit early have recovered early. Countries that were hit later are only now seeing decreases in death rates. The last countries to be hit are the poorest countries and those countries haven't reached the peak yet. Generally countries hit later were hit harder. If there is a 2nd/3rd wave then herd immunity may play a factor. Since it requires a large number who are immune it may well not help. It's just way too early to know what is right and what is wrong. The smart move is to be cautious.

it's like a sports trade, probably be years before you can say which country did the best job.

[PAULYPOKER]

20.1% of what?? certainly you can't be saying 20.1 of people with the virus are dying. More people have the virus with no symptoms than die from it

The death rate of CONFIRMED reported OUTCOMES is 20.1%.....

Simple math.....

There is no PROOF in your claim of>

"More people have the virus with no symptoms than die from it"........

Whether it's likely or not as it is mere guessing on your part..........

[PAULYPOKER]

Paul u need help man. Remember when you said the death rate as 30%? Even by your own closed cases thought process it's 20%, now and that will keep going down.


Here

So how come those MILD cases never made it to the recoveries going on three months now?

[lakerboy]

So how come those MILD cases never made it to the recoveries going on three months now?

They have. That's why the death rate is declining on closed cases. Remember it was 30%? Now it's 20?. Some people stay in hospital for weeks and others are not reported recovered until all symptoms are gone.

[PAULYPOKER]

So you think the world is going to have 2% or less and the USA will be at 20%?

Carry on

You can't use a population unless the WHOLE population is infected.........

Right now the US death rate is 20.1%........

The US Death rate was as high as 67% in the beginning......

Who knows where it will end up? Hopefully much lower than 20.1%

It has been steadily lowering for a month plus now....

[PAULYPOKER]

04-09-20 11:36 PM
The US Death rate compared to the rest of the worst.........

This proves beyond doubt, we need the STRICTEST
social distancing policy posible

much more than we are now.........

Country Italy	Deaths 18,279	Rate 39.1%
USA	16,691	39.2%^
Spain	15,447	22.9%
France	12,210	34.5%
Iran	4,110	11.8%
China	3,336	4.1%
Germany	2,607	4.7%
Belgium	2,523	32.8%
Switzerland	948	8.3%
Canada	509	8.7%

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05-16-20 06:05 AM

What are those numbers now?

Lets see........

Red indicates increase of Death Rate
from approx 1 month ago til now.......

Adding India and Indonesia to dismiss the USA huge population arguments

Country Italy	Deaths 29,684	Rate 24.15%
USA India Indo	74,809 1,787 895	26%^ 10.4% 27.9%
Spain	25,857	14%
France	25,809	32.3%
Iran	6,418	7.3%
China	4,633	5.6%
Germany	7,275	4.94%
Belgium	8,339	39.6%
Switzerland	1,805	6.6%
Canada	4,232	13.1%

[mezmurized2]

Sweden’s decision to go with voluntary lockdowns —
instead of the mandatory measures implemented in other countries —
has resulted in the highest number of COVID-19 deaths per capita
in Europe but little of the hoped-for “herd immunity” benefits.

A Swedish study found that only 7.3 percent of Stockholmers had developed coronavirus-fighting antibodies by late April, Reuters reports.
The low percentage runs counter to the strategy of the country’s chief epidemiologist, who’d predicted that by keeping schools, restaurants, bars and businesses open, enough people would soon develop immunity to the infection to slow the disease from spreading catastrophically.
Sweden’s death toll stood at 3,871 on Thursday afternoon, three times more than in its Nordic neighbors — Denmark, Norway, Finland and Iceland — combined, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The number of confirmed cases in the country is at least 32,172.
The World Health Organization has warned against pinning hopes on herd immunity.
It said last week global studies had found antibodies in only 1-10 percent of the population, results in line with recent findings in Spain and Franc

Very interesting data!
Thank you for the link to the report you listed in your first paragraph above.


That led to a story posted in the right-wing media source New York Post
where they also show the USA is ranked 9th highest in deaths per million from
coronavirus.
Their story headline is shown below, and it appears you inadvertently missed the
last two words "last week" in your first paragraph above. Easy to edit.


Sweden had most coronavirus deaths
per capita in Europe last week


Source:

https://nypost.com/2020/05/20/sweden-had-most-coronavirus-deaths-per-capita-in-europe-last-week/

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[lakerboy]

04-09-20 11:36 PM
The US Death rate compared to the rest of the worst.........

This proves beyond doubt, we need the STRICTEST
social distancing policy posible

much more than we are now.........

Country Italy	Deaths 18,279	Rate 39.1%
USA	16,691	39.2%^
Spain	15,447	22.9%
France	12,210	34.5%
Iran	4,110	11.8%
China	3,336	4.1%
Germany	2,607	4.7%
Belgium	2,523	32.8%
Switzerland	948	8.3%
Canada	509	8.7%

Points Awarded:

Mike Huntertz gave PAULYPOKER 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.

05-16-20 06:05 AM

What are those numbers now?

Lets see........

Red indicates increase of Death Rate
from approx 1 month ago til now.......

Adding India and Indonesia to dismiss the USA huge population arguments

Country Italy	Deaths 29,684	Rate 24.15%
USA India Indo	74,809 1,787 895	26%^ 10.4% 27.9%
Spain	25,857	14%
France	25,809	32.3%
Iran	6,418	7.3%
China	4,633	5.6%
Germany	7,275	4.94%
Belgium	8,339	39.6%
Switzerland	1,805	6.6%
Canada	4,232	13.1%

Strictest social distancing?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html

[PAULYPOKER]

The 1.US has 50,189 more COVID19 cases than the next
6 most infected countries in the world COMBINED!

2.Russia,
3.Brazil,
4.Spain,
5.UK,
6.Italy,
7.France


US and Brazil only 2 countries still churning out well over 1,000 deaths per day......