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  • chico2663
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    • 09-02-10
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    #36
    Originally posted by guitarjosh
    Interest rates have gone from 0% to over 2%, which means the interest payments on our debt have gone up $400 billion. Of course, Trump could just think that spending is too high regardless.
    josh he has eliminated positions in the govt. for that reason. The reason is since they have taken 72 trillion dollars less in corporate taxes. But all those small wage jobs aren't making up for the taxes loss.
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    • guitarjosh
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      • 12-25-07
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      #37
      Originally posted by chico2663
      josh he has eliminated positions in the govt. for that reason. The reason is since they have taken 72 trillion dollars less in corporate taxes. But all those small wage jobs aren't making up for the taxes loss.
      I assume you mean $72 billion. Income tax revenues were 76 billion higher this year compared to last year through the first 6 months of the year. We need to cut spending regardless of any tax legislation, and the biggest reason for the ballooning deficits is the Fed hiking rates. That's 400 billion right there.
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      • chico2663
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        #38
        No receivables from corporate taxes were 72 billion less then last year. At least that was what the guy on cspan said
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        • guitarjosh
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          • 12-25-07
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          #39
          I can believe -$72 billion, but we're also up $76 billion in income tax revenue so far this year. Again, the biggest problems we face is we spend to much anyway, and the rising interest rates.
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          • L8night
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            • 05-04-13
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            #40
            Every time I read about Repubs and their fiscal policies, I go read this article

            Only a year ago, President Trump promised to eliminate the national debt in 8 years, but it has just hit a dizzying new historical high


            Tell me what I'm missing?
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            • chico2663
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              • 09-02-10
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              #41
              Originally posted by guitarjosh
              I can believe -$72 billion, but we're also up $76 billion in income tax revenue so far this year. Again, the biggest problems we face is we spend to much anyway, and the rising interest rates.
              yes but josh usually people get a tax refund. So the money we are taking in from workers a certain percentage will go back out.
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              • chico2663
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                • 09-02-10
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                #42
                Originally posted by L8night
                Every time I read about Repubs and their fiscal policies, I go read this article

                Only a year ago, President Trump promised to eliminate the national debt in 8 years, but it has just hit a dizzying new historical high


                Tell me what I'm missing?
                problem is we put a guy in who doesn't worry about debt.
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                • brooks85
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                  • 01-05-09
                  • 44709

                  #43
                  Originally posted by brooks85

                  when rich people build $400 million hotel's what would you call it and what section of the "classes" do you think are actually building it?

                  that doesn't make them right which is why those people can never prove anything they say. People have been talking about how great socialism is for just as long and as we know, based on facts, they are 100% wrong. Do you not realize that? Saying "capitalism is wage slavery" is nonsense when weighed against the facts.

                  You could say welfare is "wage slavery" and that would actually make sense because it is true based on facts.


                  where did you go khicks?

                  you can't just pretend you're not wrong. Well, you can if you want to be a liberal.

                  Originally posted by chico2663
                  hey dip shit brooks. If trickle down worked... why would trump ask for each dept. to cut 5% off each dept.? Why would the national debt be going back to trillion dollars. You know the last time was when we had 2 unfunded wars started by w. We had another unfunded war started by obama. We had tax cuts by w that didn't work. We had the give away that obama did. But we did survive trickle down twice. Will we survive again?

                  the fact you think these two things are connected really shows you have no idea wtf you're talking about lol

                  you fall for fake facebook memes. Nothing else needs to be said.
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                  • khicks26
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                    • 09-16-06
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by brooks85
                    where did you go khicks?

                    you can't just pretend you're not wrong. Well, you can if you want to be a liberal.




                    the fact you think these two things are connected really shows you have no idea wtf you're talking about lol

                    you fall for fake facebook memes. Nothing else needs to be said.
                    Didn't go anywhere. Just thought it was pointless to carry on, due to your short sightedness.
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                    • brooks85
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                      • 01-05-09
                      • 44709

                      #45
                      Originally posted by khicks26
                      Didn't go anywhere. Just thought it was pointless to carry on, due to your short sightedness.
                      lol sure buddy...

                      you've lost, again. You said some BS, I proved it wrong. It's been going on for years. Trends.
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                      • khicks26
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                        • 09-16-06
                        • 45701

                        #46
                        Originally posted by brooks85
                        lol sure buddy...

                        you've lost, again. You said some BS, I proved it wrong. It's been going on for years. Trends.
                        What did you win? What did you prove wrong?
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                        • khicks26
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                          • 09-16-06
                          • 45701

                          #47
                          Originally posted by brooks85
                          when rich people build $400 million hotel's what would you call it and what section of the "classes" do you think are actually building it?

                          that doesn't make them right which is why those people can never prove anything they say. People have been talking about how great socialism is for just as long and as we know, based on facts, they are 100% wrong. Do you not realize that? Saying "capitalism is wage slavery" is nonsense when weighed against the facts.

                          You could say welfare is "wage slavery" and that would actually make sense because it is true based on facts.
                          OK Brooks you want a reply. I have 10mins of my life to waste.

                          What is the one thing needed to build & maintain your $400 million hotel? What is the reason for it in the first place?

                          To have the people from the same classes that build it, come & stay in it & spend money. Its not build to create jobs, its build to make money. Without a strong middle class to stay at your hotel. Its pointless to build it.

                          This is what I mean about you being short sighted & it being pointless to talk about it with you.

                          Of course you will need wage slaves to work at your hotel.


                          People that spend money is what creates jobs. Not rich people that hoard it.
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                          • khicks26
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                            • 09-16-06
                            • 45701

                            #48
                            Originally posted by brooks85
                            where did you go khicks?

                            you can't just pretend you're not wrong. Well, you can if you want to be a liberal.




                            the fact you think these two things are connected really shows you have no idea wtf you're talking about lol

                            you fall for fake facebook memes. Nothing else needs to be said.
                            Where did you go brooks?
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                            • brooks85
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                              • 01-05-09
                              • 44709

                              #49
                              Originally posted by khicks26
                              OK Brooks you want a reply. I have 10mins of my life to waste.

                              What is the one thing needed to build & maintain your $400 million hotel? What is the reason for it in the first place?

                              To have the people from the same classes that build it, come & stay in it & spend money. Its not build to create jobs, its build to make money. Without a strong middle class to stay at your hotel. Its pointless to build it.

                              This is what I mean about you being short sighted & it being pointless to talk about it with you.

                              Of course you will need wage slaves to work at your hotel.


                              People that spend money is what creates jobs. Not rich people that hoard it.

                              those are not answers to my question. So again, you've proven you have nothing and that you are wrong. More importantly the answers is NO WAY help your case lol

                              wrong that has nothing to do with it and is just a personal opinion you're desperately hoping will hold water. It will not.

                              if you'd like to try again go ahead. Try answering the questions even though you know they prove you wrong. Be adult for once.



                              "when rich people build $400 million hotel's what would you call it and what section of the "classes" do you think are actually building it? "
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                              • khicks26
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                                • 09-16-06
                                • 45701

                                #50
                                Originally posted by brooks85

                                those are not answers to my question. So again, you've proven you have nothing and that you are wrong.

                                wrong that has nothing to do with it and is just a personal opinion you're desperately hoping will hold water. It will not.
                                How an economy works is not my opinion. But you can choose to remain stupid. I'm just not going to talk to you about it.

                                SEE YA!
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                                • brooks85
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                                  • 01-05-09
                                  • 44709

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                  How an economy works is not my opinion. But you can choose to remain stupid. I'm just not going to talk to you about it.

                                  SEE YA!
                                  you don't know how an economy works.. I just proved that because you can not answer basic questions plus you also proved you have no idea by asking questions that have NOTHING to do with how an economy works.


                                  Building a luxury hotel is NOT for the middle class. You have no idea wtf you're talking about just like when you said coal miners should build skyscrapers lol you're penetrating clueless khicks
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                                  • khicks26
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                                    • 09-16-06
                                    • 45701

                                    #52


                                    DEAD END
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      • 01-05-09
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                                      #53
                                      ^lol clockwork khicks coming out when he knows he has lost. Trends.
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                                      • khicks26
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                                        • 09-16-06
                                        • 45701

                                        #54
                                        Lmao.
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                                        • brooks85
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                                          • 01-05-09
                                          • 44709

                                          #55
                                          ^the rut goes deeper


                                          Do you think what is going on here goes unnoticed or hasn't been seen in every upset child?


                                          you said something stupid, were proven wrong and now instead of being an adult you're being a child. You've done this for years and even other posters have called you out on it.
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                                          • khicks26
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                                            • 09-16-06
                                            • 45701

                                            #56
                                            Lmao
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                                            • brooks85
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                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #57
                                              oh shit... it's back.... the posting bot!!


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                                              • brooks85
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                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 44709

                                                #58
                                                oh strange.. it's almost like khicks never had a posting bot in the first place and was just some typical fascist/liberal blurting nonsense because they can not think for themselves.


                                                or maybe he is just working on the code... yeah that must be it
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
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                                                  #59
                                                  btooks you are an idiot
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                                                  • brooks85
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                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 44709

                                                    #60



                                                    keep running khicks, you might catch up to dante! lol
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                                                    • rkelly110
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                                                      • 10-05-09
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                                                      #61
                                                      From what I can read of brooksy, he's not getting smarter, he's getting fukking dumber than a box of rocks and
                                                      that my friends is pretty damn dumb.
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        • 09-21-05
                                                        • 37074

                                                        #62
                                                        Yea should of stuck with Obama’s trillion dollar a year debt increases and near 0 percent growth and falling wages. I miss those days.
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                                                        • rkelly110
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                                                          • 10-05-09
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                                                          #63
                                                          Less than 2 years in, your boy presides over the worst one day drop in stocks in world history and that was before his tariff wars then proceeded to do it 2 more times
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            • 09-21-05
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                            Less than 2 years in, your boy presides over the worst one day drop in stocks in world history and that was before his tariff wars then proceeded to do it 2 more times
                                                            Huh? There have been 47 such drops since 1960. They are nearly a yearly event. It's not in the top 1000 of worst drops btw.

                                                            You are for tariffs kelly, it's an old Dem bedrock believe. Fair trade. Ask Bernie.

                                                            Kelly's points illustrate how little the left has to criticize. Do you ever see any tards criticize wage growth, job openings growth, the 4 million that have come OFF food stamps? Nah...big one day drop in the Dow and tariffs against unfair trade is all they got.
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                                                            • Venom72
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                                                              • 10-05-16
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                              Huh? There have been 47 such drops since 1960. They are nearly a yearly event. It's not in the top 1000 of worst drops btw.

                                                              You are for tariffs kelly, it's an old Dem bedrock believe. Fair trade. Ask Bernie.

                                                              Kelly's points illustrate how little the left has to criticize. Do you ever see any tards criticize wage growth, job openings growth, the 4 million that have come OFF food stamps? Nah...big one day drop in the Dow and tariffs against unfair trade is all they got.
                                                              Shut up bitch
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                                                              • RoyBacon
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                                                                • 09-21-05
                                                                • 37074

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Venom72
                                                                Shut up bitch
                                                                I know....it's hard to type something coherent while hysterically crying.

                                                                Here is a chart by the left wing MSNBC

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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  • 10-05-09
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Obama built all that..
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                                                                  • RoyBacon
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                                                                    • 09-21-05
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                    Obama built all that..
                                                                    Correct. Indirectly.

                                                                    He was so bad he led to 1,100 Dem seats to be lost which led to the great tax cuts and deregulation that ignited the US economy. Would not have happened without him.

                                                                    We finally agree on something.
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                                                                    • L8night
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                                                                      • 05-04-13
                                                                      • 5535

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                      I know....it's hard to type something coherent while hysterically crying.

                                                                      Here is a chart by the left wing MSNBC


                                                                      Hey Roy,

                                                                      The chart is from CNBC , the business news channel, not MSNBC, they are both operated by NBC Universal.
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                                                                      • ByeShea
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                                                                        • 06-30-08
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                                                        I'm sorry dwightie. This guy is the dumbest. No moron it was started by hoover. W copied this off reagan. Please learn the definition of trickle down.
                                                                        Maybe you can enlighten everyone and name the economist who espouses "trickle down" economics?

                                                                        No, of course you cannot. This is because "trickle down" isn't an economic policy, it's an inexact criticism of economic policies that would favor deregulated playing fields.
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