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  • khicks26
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    • 09-16-06
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    #491
    Originally posted by RoyBacon
    It really is a great day. I need to fill my caddy up and now I can for $30. Thank you to The Man of the People! Fuggin cold ride this morning. What the fvvk happen to that global warming hoax?
    What are you telling me for? I don't make rules. If I did I would be driving a 70 Chevelle with a V-8 burning lead gas. The gas smelled so much better back then.

    Notice I haven't made one derogatory statement towards you the last few days? They have all come from you. Like I said, you can't reason with these people. Then they cry like snowflakes when you put it back in their face.

    I'm done being reasonable.
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    • vitterd
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      #492
      Originally posted by khicks26
      What are you telling me for? I don't make rules. If I did I would be driving a 70 Chevelle with a V-8 burning lead gas. The gas smelled so much better back then.

      Notice I haven't made one derogatory statement towards you the last few days? They have all come from you. Like I said, you can't reason with these people. Then they cry like snowflakes when you put it back in their face.

      I'm done being reasonable.
      Roy is extremely insecure. That’s why he has to tell you.
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      • RoyBacon
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        • 09-21-05
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        #493
        Originally posted by vitterd
        Roy is extremely insecure. That’s why he has to tell you.
        Come to think of it you too were complaining and blaming Trump for high gas prices. And chico too.

        I guess you are giving Trump credit for the low gas prices too?

        OK, hicks. You're right. There is no need for me to be rude.
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        • vitterd
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          #494
          Originally posted by RoyBacon
          Come to think of it you too were complaining and blaming Trump for high gas prices. And chico too.

          I guess you are giving Trump credit for the low gas prices too?

          OK, hicks. You're right. There is no need for me to be rude.
          They are still too high....I guess the Saudis lowered them so trump would look the other way on them murdering a reporter.
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          • RoyBacon
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            • 09-21-05
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            #495
            Originally posted by vitterd
            They are still too high....I guess the Saudis lowered them so trump would look the other way on them murdering a reporter.
            Oil is NOT too high at $56. In the US it cost about $50-$55 to get it out of the ground, stored and delivered.

            Well you could say the murder except Trump convinced them in July to up production, but nice try.
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            • vitterd
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              #496
              Originally posted by RoyBacon
              Oil is NOT too high at $56. In the US it cost about $50-$55 to get it out of the ground, stored and delivered.

              Well you could say the murder except Trump convinced them in July to up production, but nice try.
              I’m sure it was some secret weasel deal....that’s how trump does business. Probably a hotel deal involved on the side. It’s all about trump....that’s all he cares about.
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              • DwightShrute
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                • 01-17-09
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                #497
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                • RoyBacon
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                  #498
                  Originally posted by vitterd
                  I’m sure it was some secret weasel deal....that’s how trump does business. Probably a hotel deal involved on the side. It’s all about trump....that’s all he cares about.
                  We just talked about that darn dishonesty thingy and you made 1 post in a row that was honest. Now this.

                  You are sure it was a weasel deal? Uh-ok, so if you're sure than you have evidence of some kind right?
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                  • brooks85
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                    • 01-05-09
                    • 44644

                    #499
                    Originally posted by khicks26
                    I really don't mind assumptions as long as they are close to correct. Yours never are. Bit of a bungler you are Roy. That's the way your posts come off. You struggle with thinking games don't you?
                    coming from the guy who assumed "economic liberalism" had to do with being a liberal so he called obama a neoliberal
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                    • BOA12
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                      • 02-19-12
                      • 20437

                      #500
                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                      We just talked about that darn dishonesty thingy and you made 1 post in a row that was honest. Now this.

                      You are sure it was a weasel deal? Uh-ok, so if you're sure than you have evidence of some kind right?
                      Con men and your average Yankee snake oil salesmen con-sistently are involved in secret weasel deals, Their greatest attribute. Rose colored glasses stock is crashing, time to get off this stinking, sinking ship
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                      • RoyBacon
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                        • 09-21-05
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                        #501
                        Originally posted by BOA12
                        Con men and your average Yankee snake oil salesmen con-sistently are involved in secret weasel deals, Their greatest attribute. Rose colored glasses stock is crashing, time to get off this stinking, sinking ship
                        Yeaaa...I just don't do made up conspiracy stuff. There will always be deals, it's part of life. Look at the Clinton's; never worked a real day in their life and are billionaires. Look at Pelosi and Waters, also never worked a real day in their lives and are worth 100's of millions. Bernie Sanders has 3 homes. Pretty good for a fella making $190k a year. Must be a good at saving .

                        Not looking for imaginary villains or to make excuses.
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                        • BOA12
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                          • 02-19-12
                          • 20437

                          #502
                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                          Yeaaa...I just don't do made up conspiracy stuff. There will always be deals, it's part of life. Look at the Clinton's; never worked a real day in their life and are billionaires. Look at Pelosi and Waters, also never worked a real day in their lives and are worth 100's of millions. Bernie Sanders has 3 homes. Pretty good for a fella making $190k a year. Must be a good at saving .

                          Not looking for imaginary villains or to make excuses.
                          I only go with what I am given. Fake news and enemy of the people aren't my battle cry, that's your fearless leader and his sponsors best recruiting tool for MAGA gone wild.
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                          • RoyBacon
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                            #503
                            Originally posted by BOA12
                            I only go with what I am given. Fake news and enemy of the people aren't my battle cry, that's your fearless leader and his sponsors best recruiting tool for MAGA gone wild.
                            Trump has a point there. Fake news is dangerous. Of course it's your side doing it so it's kind of ok. But that could change.

                            Remember when we were kids all those guys were libs or in Cronkite's case a communist. But no one could tell, I mean you kind of could but it wasn't blatant. There was no such thing as fake news. Today's press is an extension of the DNC and that more than R's, D's and POTUS are dividing us.
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                            • L8night
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                              • 05-04-13
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                              #504
                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                              Yeaaa...I just don't do made up conspiracy stuff. There will always be deals, it's part of life. Look at the Clinton's; never worked a real day in their life and are billionaires. Look at Pelosi and Waters, also never worked a real day in their lives and are worth 100's of millions. Bernie Sanders has 3 homes. Pretty good for a fella making $190k a year. Must be a good at saving .

                              Not looking for imaginary villains or to make excuses.
                              Clinton's are millionaires, not billionaires, as for people that have never worked a day in their life, let's look at the Trump dynasty.
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                              • BOA12
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                                • 02-19-12
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                                #505
                                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                Trump has a point there. Fake news is dangerous. Of course it's your side doing it so it's kind of ok. But that could change.

                                Remember when we were kids all those guys were libs or in Cronkite's case a communist. But no one could tell, I mean you kind of could but it wasn't blatant. There was no such thing as fake news. Today's press is an extension of the DNC and that more than R's, D's and POTUS are dividing us.
                                Well said. A twisted scenario to figure out. Honesty is the best policy, been lacking by design or default, intention always the tie breaker. Suppression of the media seems to benefit those with something to hide if history has taught US anything.
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                                • DwightShrute
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                                  #506
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                                  • RoyBacon
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                                    • 09-21-05
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                                    #507
                                    Originally posted by BOA12
                                    Well said. A twisted scenario to figure out. Honesty is the best policy, been lacking by design or default, intention always the tie breaker. Suppression of the media seems to benefit those with something to hide if history has taught US anything.
                                    Certainly agree. I'm a big believer the market will sort it out and it kind of is. But it's strange how every media but one is left to far left. I guess there just is no market for straight up news anymore.

                                    It's like the late 60's when we had all those great heavyweights fighting on ABC for free. We had great news with NBC, CBS and ABC. Miss those days.
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                                    • rkelly110
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                                      • 10-05-09
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                                      #508
                                      Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                      Certainly agree. I'm a big believer the market will sort it out and it kind of is. But it's strange how every media but one is left to far left. I guess there just is no market for straight up news anymore.

                                      It's like the late 60's when we had all those great heavyweights fighting on ABC for free. We had great news with NBC, CBS and ABC. Miss those days.
                                      So now you get your news from the buffoon?
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                                      • RoyBacon
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                                        #509
                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                        So now you get your news from the buffoon?
                                        I haven't even watched the news all week. Fuggin bores me. I love CNBC and can honestly say it makes me money. Fox Business is 2nd. I don't know who buffoon is. Not up on the liberal slang.
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                                        • BOA12
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                                          #510
                                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                          Certainly agree. I'm a big believer the market will sort it out and it kind of is. But it's strange how every media but one is left to far left. I guess there just is no market for straight up news anymore.

                                          It's like the late 60's when we had all those great heavyweights fighting on ABC for free. We had great news with NBC, CBS and ABC. Miss those days.
                                          Good old days where you made friends face to face and integrity appeared to be real in the media. Don't watch much TV, but miss those days too.
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                                          • RoyBacon
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                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by L8night
                                            Clinton's are millionaires, not billionaires, as for people that have never worked a day in their life, let's look at the Trump dynasty.
                                            They got $140 million from the Russians. Not bad for selling out America's uranium.

                                            Sure. you want to talk about Trump's business?
                                            Selected completed properties


                                            The Trump World Tower at United Nations Plaza




                                            The Trump International Hotel and Tower (New York City) at Columbus Circle


                                            • Trump Tower, 725 Fifth Avenue, Midtown Manhattan: A 58-story[76] mixed-use tower, the headquarters of the Trump Organization, was developed in partnership with The Equitable, and opened in 1983. Trump bought out the Equitable's stake in 1986,[77] and now owns the office and retail components of the tower.[78] The building also contains the three-story penthouse apartment that was Donald Trump's primary residence until he moved to the White House.[79] The value of the tower was estimated at $450 million in 2017.[80] Trump took out a $100 million mortgage on the building in 2012.[78]
                                            • Trump World Tower, 845 United Nations Plaza, also in Midtown Manhattan: In 2006, Forbes magazine estimated "$290 million in profits and unrealized appreciation" going to Trump.[81]
                                            • AXA Financial Center in Manhattan and 555 California Street in San Francisco: Trump owns a 30 percent stake in these two office buildings, resulting from a property swap involving Riverside South. Trump's stake in the two buildings was estimated to be at least $850 million as of 2013.[78]
                                            • The Trump Building at 40 Wall Street: Trump bought and renovated this building for $1 million in 1995. The pre-tax net operating income at the building as of 2011 was US$20.89 million and is valued at $350 to $400 million, according to the New York Department of Finance. Trump took out a $160 million mortgage attached to the property with an interest rate of 5.71% to use for other investments.[78] Forbes valued the property at $260 million in 2006.[81]
                                            • Trump International Hotel and Tower Chicago: The entire project is valued at $1.2 billion ($112 million stake for Trump).
                                            • Trump International Hotel Las Vegas: A joint development with fellow Forbes 400 members, Phil Ruffin ("key partner"), and Jack Wishna ("minority partner").[82] In 2006, Trump's stake was estimated at $162 million.[81] In Forbes in March 2017, the Trump International Las Vegas was described as a 50-50 partnership between Donald Sr. and Ruffin, with Eric as the primary manager for the Trump Organization.[67]
                                            • Trump International Hotel and Tower New York: Trump provided his name and expertise to the building's owner (GE) during the building's re-development in 1994 for a fee totaling $40 million ($25 million for project management and $15 million in incentives deriving from the condo sales). Forbes values Trump's stake at $12 million. In March 2010, the penthouse apartment at Trump International Hotel & Tower in New York City sold for $33 million.[83][84]
                                            • Trump Park Avenue Park Avenue & 59th Street: It is valued at $142 million. Trump owns 23 apartments at Trump Park Avenue, which he rents for rates as high as $100,000 per month, and 19 units at Trump Parc.[78]
                                            • 6 East 57th Street: Trump has a leasehold interest on this retail building, adjacent to Trump Tower, through the year 2079.[85] The building was occupied by a Niketown store from 1996 to 2018.[85][86] The value of Trump's interest was estimated at $470 million as of 2015.[87]
                                            • Mar-a-Lago: A historic estate in Palm Beach, Florida, most of which was converted by Trump into a members-only resort. The property was worth as much as $250 million as of 2013.[78] Trump also owns two neighboring private houses, valued at $6.5 million and $3 million.[78]
                                            • Seven Springs: A 213-acre (86 ha) estate with a 13-bedroom mansion near Bedford, New York. Trump paid $7.5 million for the property in 1995.[88] Local brokers put the property's value at around $40 million as of 2013.[78] Trump had hoped to develop the land with a golf course or houses, but apparently abandoned those plans in 2015.[88]
                                            • Beverly Hills house: A 5-bedroom home purchased by Trump in 2007 for $7 million,[89] and valued at $8.5 to $10 million as of 2013.[78]
                                            • Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C.: The Old Post Office Pavilion, historically known as the Old Post Office and Clock Tower, is a property located at 1100 Pennsylvania Avenue NW in Washington, D.C. The Trump Organization developed the property into a luxury hotel, which opened in September 2016.

                                            Carousel

                                            Central Park Carousel: A merry-go-round carousel located in Central Park, Manhattan. In 2010, Trump took over the management of the Central Park carousel, where he promised to revive the merry-go-round after its previous operator was removed by the city's parks department. The carousel generates $589,000 from annual admissions.[90][91][92] The Trump Organization has a contract to operate the carousel through 2021.[93]
                                            Skating rink


                                            Wollman Rink, Central Park


                                            Wollman Rink: A public ice rink in the southern part of Central Park. Wollman Rink has been operated by a joint venture between Trump Organization and Rink Management Services of Mechanicsville, Virginia since 2001. The Trump name is prominently displayed on the walls of the rink as well as on the Zamboni that maintains the rink. Operation of the Lasker Rink on the north edge of Central Park is also handled by the two companies. The rink generates close to $8.7 million in annual income from rink admissions.[75][90][91] The Trump Organization has a contract to operate the rink through 2021.[93]
                                            Trump Winery

                                            Trump Winery is a winery situated on Trump Vineyard Estates near Charlottesville, Virginia. It is valued between $5 million to $25 million.[75]
                                            The vineyard was purchased by Trump in April 2011 from Patricia Kluge, the widow of John Kluge. The property was distressed.[94] and was officially opened in October 2011.[95] Trump Winery is situated in the Monticello Wine Trail. Trump's son Eric was a partner in the purchase.[96]
                                            After purchasing the property, Trump turned over management of the winery to his son.
                                            Golf courses

                                            The Trump Organization owns or manages seventeen golf courses in the United States, Scotland, Ireland, and the United Arab Emirates.[97] As of 2015, Trump listed income of at least $176 million in an 18-month span from his golf courses – about 41% of the low-end estimate of his income.[75]
                                            United States


                                            Trump National Golf Club in Los Angeles




                                            Trump Turnberry golf course in Scotland



                                            International


                                            Real estate licensing


                                            Trump International Hotel at Las Vegas




                                            The former Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto


                                            Many developers pay Donald Trump to market their properties and be the public face for their projects.[104] For that reason, Trump does not own many of the buildings that display his name.[104] According to Forbes, this portion of Trump's empire, actually run by his children, has valuation of $562 million. According to Forbes, there were 33 licensing projects under development including seven "condo hotels" (i.e. The seven Trump International Hotel and Tower developments). Trump has generated more than $74 million in real estate licensing deals and has $823.3 million worth of real estate in joint ventures.[78]
                                            • Manhattan:
                                              • Trump Palace: 200 East 69th Street, New York, NY.
                                              • Trump Parc and Trump Parc East: Two adjoining buildings on Central Park South on the southwest corner of The Avenue of the Americas. Trump Parc East is a 14-story apartment building and Trump Parc (the former Barbizon Plaza Hotel) is a 38-story condominium building.
                                              • Trump Plaza: 167 East 61st Street, New York, NY (36-story, Y-shaped plan condominium building on the Upper East Side)
                                              • 610 Park Avenue (Old Mayfair Hotel): Trump is helping with the construction and development of this property for Colony NorthStar.
                                              • Trump SoHo: Hotel Condominium: A partnership with Bayrock Group to build a 42-story building in Soho.[citation needed] "Russian-born" Felix Sater was listed as an employee of Bayrock when the partnership was born. Sater had served time in prison for injuries he inflicted in a bar fight before the Soho partnership.[68]

                                            • New York City suburbs:
                                            • Florida:
                                            • Other domestic:
                                            • International:
                                              • Elite Tower, Ramat Gan, Israel was a planned commercial real estate development slated to be the tallest building in Israel. Called the Trump Plaza Tower, Trump shelved the plans in 2007, when the site was sold on to Azorim for NIS 306.5 million.[119][120] Trump purchased the site for $44 million.[121]
                                              • Trump International Hotel & Tower Lido Lake, West Java, Indonesia. Trump Hotels will be involved with the 700-hectare Lido Lake development, 1 hour from Bandung, Indonesia including a six-star luxury resort, 18-hole signature Ernie Els championship golf course, elite Lifestyle Country Club & Spa as well as a high-end residential offering including luxury villas and condominiums.[122][123] One of the Trump Organization's partners in Indonesia is Tanoesoedibjo, who is "building up a following as he mulls a presidential run", according to Forbes.[67][68] MNC Lido City is partially funded by the Chinese government.[124][125]
                                              • Trump International Hotel & Tower Vancouver, Vancouver. A skyscraper under construction in Downtown Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The 63-story, 188-metre-high (617 ft), mixed-use tower is located at 1133 West Georgia Street, and has been completed in 2016. Trump Vancouver is the second tallest building in the city, after the Shangri-La tower located across West Georgia Street.[citation needed] The licensed tower in Vancouver is a project primarily of Donald Jr.'s with its builder, "Malaysian heir Joo Kim Tiah".[67]
                                              • Trump Towers Istanbul, Istanbul, Turkey[126]



                                            Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower, Panama


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                                            • HockeyRocks
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                                              #512
                                              Cortez lives in the RWNuts heads...They just can't stop talking about her....Pretty funny...
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                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                #513
                                                Left wing nuts try and deflect from her stupidity by saying she lives people's heads. LMFAO!
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                                                • vitterd
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                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by hockeyrocks
                                                  cortez lives in the rwnuts heads...they just can't stop talking about her....pretty funny...
                                                  cds

                                                  Cortez Derangement Syndrome
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                                                  • L8night
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                                                    • 05-04-13
                                                    • 5535

                                                    #515
                                                    Hey Roy,

                                                    Well, color me impressed, with all you have listed here, but where did all the $$$ come from to make this happen?, nobody has been able to tell me that? I believe after his last bankruptcy, no American lender would touch him(correct me if I'm wrong), well, we know how he got his start, it was daddy, and he kind of screwed that up, so I can't buy into Donnie made all this happen on his own, maybe if we saw his tax returns, I would not have so many questions.

                                                    I'm pretty sure we will be learning the truth about the enigma that is Trump, very soon.

                                                    Thanks for taking the time to guide me through the kingdom.
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                                                    • HockeyRocks
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                                                      • 07-10-13
                                                      • 6069

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                      Left wing nuts try and deflect from her stupidity by saying she lives people's heads. LMFAO!
                                                      "she lives people's heads."
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by L8night
                                                        Hey Roy,

                                                        Well, color me impressed, with all you have listed here, but where did all the $$$ come from to make this happen?, nobody has been able to tell me that? I believe after his last bankruptcy, no American lender would touch him(correct me if I'm wrong), well, we know how he got his start, it was daddy, and he kind of screwed that up, so I can't buy into Donnie made all this happen on his own, maybe if we saw his tax returns, I would not have so many questions.

                                                        I'm pretty sure we will be learning the truth about the enigma that is Trump, very soon.

                                                        Thanks for taking the time to guide me through the kingdom.
                                                        From public records Trump inherited $40 million. He's worth between $3.2b and $5b...he claims $9b but he's prone to exaggerate.

                                                        On the BK's. Trump is in over 4,000 deals and yes 5 went BK. No shame there not every biz works. Ford, Abe Lincoln, Disney all had BK's.

                                                        The tax returns will give the TDS'ers a ton of partners to investigate. No big deal. An empire that large is going to have some warts and the press will have some fun.

                                                        But you can't compare Hillary's pay to play extortion biz with a real global entrepreneur.
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                                                        • vitterd
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                                                          #518
                                                          Trump inherited 400 million and squandered it. He’s lucky he got a loan from his sister or he’d be Dwight
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                                                          • DwightShrute
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                                                            #519
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                                                            • DwightShrute
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                                                              #520
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                                                              • vitterd
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                                                                #521
                                                                Dwight CDS kicking in again. Poor guy must still be in pain after the blue wave last week!!
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                                                                • jt315
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                                                                  #522
                                                                  Keep em coming Dwight . Makes the snowflakes a little edgy .
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                                                                  • vitterd
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                                                                    #523
                                                                    Trumptards are so scared of this woman. It’s comical to watch them all race to make fun of her. Trumptard old white men are a weird group. Scary people. Check their vans.
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                                                                    • RoyBacon
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                                                                      #524
                                                                      Originally posted by vitterd
                                                                      Trumptards are so scared of this woman. It’s comical to watch them all race to make fun of her. Trumptard old white men are a weird group. Scary people. Check their vans.
                                                                      I'm glad you Dems own her. Can you even imagine what the tard press would be saying if a Repub airhead like her was elected???????

                                                                      Hopefully she will run for potus.
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                                                                      • vitterd
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                                                                        #525
                                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                        I'm glad you Dems own her. Can you even imagine what the tard press would be saying if a Repub airhead like her was elected???????

                                                                        Hopefully she will run for potus.
                                                                        Repubs have tons of people just as dopey. She’s young and new.....and that always scares old white voters but I promise it will be ok.

                                                                        Buy a trumpy bear for comfort.
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