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  • Bluehorseshoe
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    • 07-13-06
    • 15081

    #1
    What happened to "Drain the Swamp"?
    Donors and lobbyists already shaping Trump’s ‘drain the swamp’ administration



    The chant echoed through Donald Trump’s boisterous rallies leading up to Election Day: “Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!”

    “We are fighting for every citizen that believes that government should serve the people, not the donors and not the special interests,” the billionaire real estate developer promised exuberant supporters at his last campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.

    But just days later, there is little evidence that the president-elect is seeking to restrain wealthy interests from having access and influence in his administration.

    It’s not just corporate lobbyists who are playing early, visible roles in the new power structure. Some of Trump’s biggest political donors are shaping the incoming administration, including Rebekah Mercer, a daughter of billionaire Robert Mercer, who is figuring prominently in behind-the-scenes discussions, according to people familiar with the transition.

    Mercer is among four major donors appointed by Trump Friday to a 16-person executive committee overseeing his transition. The others are campaign finance chairman Steven Mnuchin, New York financier Anthony Scaramucci and Silicon Valley investor Peter Thiel.
    Trump’s administration could look a lot like the 'swamp' he vowed to drain

    During his campaign, President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly vowed to "drain the swamp" in D.C. and rid the federal government of political elites and lobbyists. But just days into his transition to president, Trump seems to be doing the opposite.

    Meanwhile, top campaign fundraisers and a raft of lobbyists tied to some of the country’s wealthiest industries have been put in charge of hiring and planning for specific federal agencies. They include J. Steven Hart, chairman of the law and lobbying shop Williams & Jensen; Michael McKenna, an energy company lobbyist who is overseeing planning for the Energy Department; and Dallas fundraiser Ray Washburne, was has been tapped to oversee the Commerce Department.

    Billionaires who served as Trump’s policy advisers, such as Oklahoma oil executive Harold Hamm, are under consideration for Cabinet positions.

    And Trump is still working to fashion ethical guardrails that would wall him off from his sprawling real estate empire.



    Meredith McGehee, who heads policy and strategy for Issue One, a bipartisan group that aims to reduce the influence of wealthy interests on politics, said there is “tremendous dissonance” between Trump’s rhetoric and early actions.

    “Much of what he said was, ‘I’m going to change the game,’ ” she said. “Of all of his messages, that one I think clearly resonated the strongest. That’s going to be in*cred*ibly difficult when the people you bring in are the experts at making the game work for them.”

    Trump aides and transition officials did not respond to repeated requests for comment about what role donors and lobbyists will play in the administration.


    In the few days since Trump’s surprise win, Washington’s lobbying industry — which largely eschewed his candidacy — has clamored for a spot in the incoming administration. The transition team, which is scrambling to make 4,000 political appointments in less than three months, has welcomed lobbyists’ involvement and expertise, according to people familiar with the operation.

    “Every presidential candidate at one time or another runs against Washington,” said energy lobbyist Scott H. Segal. “But the last thing in the world any newly elected president wants to do is go into complicated issues with blinders on. As a result, they look to people as advisers and implementers that have a full understanding of the subject matter they are supposed to address.”

    The courting started before Election Day, when trade association representatives and lobbyists were invited to transition policy developments sessions. Lobbyists were solicited to give up to $5,000 to finance the transition, a fundraising effort that accelerated last week as the team seeks to collect about $3 million more to hit a $5 million budget, according to a person familiar with the situation.

    Jeffrey H. Birnbaum, president of BGR Public Relations, said “all the Washington regulars” participated in the policy meetings, but added that such access is no guarantee Trump will take his cues from K Street.
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    “Just because a transition task force makes a recommendation doesn’t mean that Donald Trump will follow it,” he said.

    Still, the prominence of established Washington figures and wealthy donors comes as a jarring contrast to Trump’s unequivocal rhetoric on the campaign trail, when he decried inside-the-Beltway denizens as “corrupt.”

    Ari Fleischer, who served as President George W. Bush’s press secretary, said the policy decisions Trump makes in the early days will directly reflect on his credibility.

    “The transition affords him an opportunity to show he’s going to govern consistent with the promises he made,” Fleischer said. “If you are a reformer and you genuinely want to change the system, you ban people who you say you’re going to ban. Anything less starts to represent compromise.”

    Michael Toner, who served as general counsel to the Bush-Cheney transition in 2000, said the 10-week period after the election is a key moment for establishing broad ethical policies that will govern the incoming administration.

    On the campaign trail, Trump promised to take several specific actions regarding lobbyists, including prohibiting White House and congressional officials from lobbying for five years after they leave government service.

    But his transition team has already rolled back some of the restrictions on lobbyists that Barack Obama established for his transition operation in 2008. Among the rules that have been discarded: a ban on lobbyists from contributing financially to the transition and a prohibition on lobbyists working on the transition from overseeing any fields of policy on which they had lobbied in the previous year.

    Several prominent lobbyists are overseeing the staffing of departments in which their clients have a direct interest, including energy adviser Michael Catanzaro, a partner at the lobbying firm CGCN, who has represented oil services giant Halliburton, Koch Industries and the petrochemical and refining association American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers.

    The Trump team is putting some limits on lobbyists, according to a person with knowledge of the transition. As in past years, those working on the transition have agreed not to lobby any federal agencies they helped staff for a certain period of time. However, the length of the ban is unclear. Obama prohibited such lobbying for a year.

    It also remains unclear whether the new president will dole out plum appointments such as ambassadorships to major donors — a practice embraced by his predecessors, including Obama and Bush.

    While Trump has repeatedly proclaimed his independence from wealthy donors, at least 330 supporters contributed $100,000 or more to his campaign, the Republican National Committee and pro-Trump super PACs, according to a Washington Post analysis of federal campaign finance reports.

    Trump’s biggest backers gave millions, including casino magnate Sheldon Adelson and his wife Miriam ($11.2 million), Home Depot co-founder Bernard Marcus ($7.6 million), wrestling magnate Linda McMahon ($6 million), Robert Mercer ($3.4 million) and poultry executive Ronald Cameron and his wife Nina ($2.9 million).

    Together, the top 100 donors donated $82 million to support his bid, with strong support from the finance, gambling and real estate industries.



    Another major uncertainty: how Trump will wall himself off from his private company, which has interests around the globe. On disclosure filings, Trump listed involvements in more than 500 companies, some in countries where the United States has sensitive diplomatic or financial relationships, such as Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and China. Trump companies are partially indebted to banks in Germany and China.

    On Friday, Amanda Miller, vice president of marketing for the Trump Organization, said in a statement that the company was still “vetting various structures with the goal of the immediate transfer of management of The Trump Organization and its portfolio of businesses to Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric Trump along with a team of highly skilled executives.”

    “This is a top priority at the Organization and the structure that is ultimately selected will comply with all applicable rules and regulations,” she added.



    But ethics experts said putting Trump’s children in charge of his empire would not distance the new president from his assets or avoid conflicts of interest.

    “In a real blind trust, an independent trustee who has no connection to the beneficiary is appointed to manage the assets in the trust, and that trustee is supposed to be the only one who knows what is being done in the blind trust,” said Fred Wertheimer of Democracy 21, a government watchdog group.

    Campaign finance lawyer Trevor Potter, who drafted ethics agreements for 2008 GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and other officials, said Trump’s business interests pose unprecedented conflicts of interest.

    “Never in history have we had someone become president with the range of business interests — domestic and international — that Trump has,” he said.

  • LearningTree
    SBR High Roller
    • 08-02-10
    • 216

    #2
    He's a narcissistic manchild con artist. He was all hunched over and calling Obama a good guy after their conversation. What happened, buddy? Now all these career politicians (the people he can't con) have to teach baby boy how to do his job because he has literally no idea what he's talking about.
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    • jt315
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-12-11
      • 20695

      #3
      Originally posted by LearningTree
      He's a narcissistic manchild con artist. He was all hunched over and calling Obama a good guy after their conversation. What happened, buddy? Now all these career politicians (the people he can't con) have to teach baby boy how to do his job because he has literally no idea what he's talking about.
      The country will be much better off once the race baiting POS leaves office 1/20/17

      MAGA !!!
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      • Shafted69
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-04-08
        • 6412

        #4
        Comrades Lewendowski and Putin will be his foreign policy advisers.

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        • rkelly110
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          • 10-05-09
          • 39410

          #5
          The electorate kept the swamp instead of draining it. Fukking hypocrits.
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 62548

            #6
            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
            During his campaign, President-elect Donald Trump repeatedly vowed to "drain the swamp" in D.C. and rid the federal government of political elites and lobbyists. But just days into his transition to president, Trump seems to be doing the opposite.
            I saw plenty of people supporting Trump post that they didn't expect him to do all the things he said he would.

            I think plenty would not have actually voted for him if they thought he would do all the stuff he said.


            How supporters take him not abolishing Obamacare or banning Islamic immigration or deporting illegals on mass will be interesting to see though.

            And just wait until he comes up with a SCOTUS nominee. Good chance that won't turn out the way the GOP hopes as well.
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            • PromiseLand
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              • 08-30-12
              • 2444

              #7
              It's hard to get much swampier than Gingrich. I wonder when Trump will follow through on some of his other campaign promises such as putting Hillary in jail, building the wall, and suing the NY Times and all his sexual assault accusers/victims...or was he just being sarcastic when he said all that stuff?
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              • Bluehorseshoe
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 07-13-06
                • 15081

                #8
                Originally posted by Optional
                I saw plenty of people supporting Trump post that they didn't expect him to do all the things he said he would.

                I think plenty would not have actually voted for him if they thought he would do all the stuff he said.


                How supporters take him not abolishing Obamacare or banning Islamic immigration or deporting illegals on mass will be interesting to see though.

                And just wait until he comes up with a SCOTUS nominee. Good chance that won't turn out the way the GOP hopes as well.
                The Right will be angrier than the Left in a year.

                Also......How does he explain reversing Dodd-Frank? (Which he intends to do.) I can't wait to hear that one.
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                • irish1
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-25-12
                  • 4837

                  #9
                  He hasn't even been sworn in yet and you guys are all over him to keep his promises. He does have to surround himself with good people to get things accomplished. Not people like Valerie Jarrett, Eric Holder and Hillary. He did one good thing already, got rid of fat boy Christie. I would have a talk with Paul Ryan and request his resignation, bitch slap McConnell to do the job he is suppose too. Jeff Sessions is gonna be huge in this effort. It's time for the Republicans to man up and take care of our Veteran's, repeal most of obamacare, control immigration, put a match to NAFTA and put that temporary ban on the middle east, oh and almost forgot one of the most important things supreme court justices. If the republican's can get that done I'll be impressed. Remember they had complete control before and acted like wimps. If Trump really wants to impress me he would tackle term limits. That's draining the swamp with one stroke of the pen. Well see? Hey if the dem's had complete control do you honestly think would care what conservatives thought? Make America Great Again.
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                  • Turd Ferguson
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                    • 08-26-10
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                    #10


                    That's pretty swampy too. It's going to get worse before it gets better.
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                    • irish1
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                      • 12-25-12
                      • 4837

                      #11
                      Oh my God turd! Someone who actually wants to enforce our immigration laws, the nerve of Trump. How dare Kris Kobach enforce the law? Hang em!!! Turd thats why the liberal scumbags lost. Are you ever gonna wake up? Still calling people racist!
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                      • Turd Ferguson
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                        • 08-26-10
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                        #12
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                        • DwightShrute
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                          • 01-17-09
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                          #13
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                          • Turd Ferguson
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                            • 08-26-10
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                            #14
                            Tell us, Dwight, your thoughts on the donors, lobbyists, and cronies that Trump is eyeing for his cabinet. I distinctly remember him telling all those working class folks that he was going to make the gubmint work for them and not wall st. He said he would bring in the "best and the brightest" but it looks like we're getting his little goon squad of loyalists.

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                            • rkelly110
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                              • 10-05-09
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                              Tell us, Dwight, your thoughts on the donors, lobbyists, and cronies that Trump is eyeing for his cabinet. I distinctly remember him telling all those working class folks that he was going to make the gubmint work for them and not wall st. He said he would bring in the "best and the brightest" but it looks like we're getting his little goon squad of loyalists.

                              Give him an hour to find the right meme or make one up.
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                              • Bluehorseshoe
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 07-13-06
                                • 15081

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                Tell us, Dwight, your thoughts on the donors, lobbyists, and cronies that Trump is eyeing for his cabinet. I distinctly remember him telling all those working class folks that he was going to make the gubmint work for them and not wall st. He said he would bring in the "best and the brightest" but it looks like we're getting his little goon squad of loyalists.

                                But they brought Potato Chips.
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                                • bigtymer56
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                                  • 07-31-12
                                  • 4743

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                  Tell us, Dwight, your thoughts on the donors, lobbyists, and cronies that Trump is eyeing for his cabinet. I distinctly remember him telling all those working class folks that he was going to make the gubmint work for them and not wall st. He said he would bring in the "best and the brightest" but it looks like we're getting his little goon squad of loyalists.

                                  I'm sure once his cronies are in place they'll all get right to work on bringing back the jobs and not focus on deals that benefit themselves first.
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                                  • Turd Ferguson
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                                    • 08-26-10
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                                    #18




                                    As long as he only gets the one supreme court appointment, as bad as that is, this is going to be pretty entertaining to watch....
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                                    • bigtymer56
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                                      • 07-31-12
                                      • 4743

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                      http://www.newsweek.com/supporters-w...s-520383?rx=us



                                      As long as he only gets the one supreme court appointment, as bad as that is, this is going to be pretty entertaining to watch....
                                      Cant say we didnt try to warn them about dealing with a conman.
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                                      • DwightShrute
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                                        • 01-17-09
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                                        #20
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                                        • itchypickle
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                                          • 11-05-09
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                                          #21
                                          Settle down ....The Pres hasn't even set his cabinet yet. Still attacking him at every corner lol.
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                                          • Bluehorseshoe
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                                            • 07-13-06
                                            • 15081

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by itchypickle
                                            Settle down ....The Pres hasn't even set his cabinet yet. Still attacking him at every corner lol.
                                            I can't wait to see his health care plan.
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                                            • Turd Ferguson
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                                              • 08-26-10
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                                              #23
                                              I just read that they dug up Ed Meese. That's right, Ed Meese. That guys still alive and on the Trump transition team.

                                              And on the short list for Sec of State...John Bolton. That's right, John Bolton...remember him? Where Bolton goes, Wolfowitz won't be far behind.
                                              So much for that "not getting us into more stupid wars" bit...

                                              ...but Hillary used a private server
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                                              • rkelly110
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                                                • 10-05-09
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                                                #24
                                                Well, history has repeated itself with a Repub win after 2 terms of a Dem, but I don't think a Repub Pres,
                                                a Repub controlled house and senate, has ever been handed such a robust economy. We'll see how that
                                                goes.

                                                History has also shown Repubs who have taken over, has gotten us into wars, recessions and massive debt.
                                                The Dem elect has to straighten it up.........again. We'll see how that goes.

                                                Find it funny, 6 years of obstruction and then finally getting control of both branches for 2 years, nothing
                                                got done, because of one man at the top. Now, all of a sudden these guys are all giddy on getting back to work.
                                                They should be all rested up.
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                                                • maggiethebestdog
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                                                  • 12-21-13
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                                                  #25
                                                  Robust economy, lol. Delusional liberal thread.
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                                                  • itchypickle
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                                                    • 11-05-09
                                                    • 21452

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                    I can't wait to see his health care plan.
                                                    Go look at one of the bills the GOP passed already, basically they will dust it off....vote out Ryan from Speaker...tweak it to fit Trump's vision....vote it in and he'll sign it.
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      • 08-10-05
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                                                      #27
                                                      "Drain the Swamp" was a campaign ploy. Nothing more, nothing less. It helped him win and that's all that mattered. And I don't begrudge that. You say what you need to say to win an election. The "swamp" is not getting drained. Just a reshuffling of swamp-dwellers.
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                                                      • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                        • 07-13-06
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                        Go look at one of the bills the GOP passed already, basically they will dust it off....vote out Ryan from Speaker...tweak it to fit Trump's vision....vote it in and he'll sign it.
                                                        Exactly.
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                                                        • Bluehorseshoe
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                                                          • 07-13-06
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                                          I just read that they dug up Ed Meese. That's right, Ed Meese. That guys still alive and on the Trump transition team.

                                                          And on the short list for Sec of State...John Bolton. That's right, John Bolton...remember him? Where Bolton goes, Wolfowitz won't be far behind.
                                                          So much for that "not getting us into more stupid wars" bit...

                                                          ...but Hillary used a private server
                                                          Ed Meese??? I always thought of Ed McMahon when I saw him.
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                                                          • itchypickle
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                                                            • 11-05-09
                                                            • 21452

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                            Exactly.
                                                            And let's not forget to remind everyone....the wall is basically an existing law as well. Bush passed the secure fence law but it was stopped by DHS after Obama....remember the famous do they want a moat speech? It's coming!
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                                                            • irish1
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                                                              • 12-25-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Is Gitmo closed yet????
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                                                              • Turd Ferguson
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                                                                • 08-26-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by itchypickle
                                                                And let's not forget to remind everyone....the wall is basically an existing law as well. Bush passed the secure fence law but it was stopped by DHS after Obama....remember the famous do they want a moat speech? It's coming!
                                                                I can't wait to see Kellyanne go on the news shows and say "Jake, he never said he was going to build a wall"

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                                                                • irish1
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
                                                                  I can't wait to see Kellyanne go on the news shows and say "Jake, he never said he was going to build a wall"

                                                                  You mean the wall that Hillary voted for when she was a senator? You mean the wall that congress approved to build 20 years ago? Is that the wall you are talking about?
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                                                                  • d2bets
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by irish1
                                                                    You mean the wall that Hillary voted for when she was a senator? You mean the wall that congress approved to build 20 years ago? Is that the wall you are talking about?
                                                                    The one that we have to wait for Mexico to write a check for.
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                                                                    • Turd Ferguson
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                                                                      • 08-26-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by irish1
                                                                      You mean the wall that Hillary voted for when she was a senator? You mean the wall that congress approved to build 20 years ago? Is that the wall you are talking about?
                                                                      I mean the one that's now "a fence".
                                                                      It'll be a clothesline by Jan 20th.
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