Donald Trump's US President Odds Improving!!

[DwightShrute]

Dante are u guys trying to punk me? Dimlight is from Vancouver? All this time firing from the far right tea party playbook and this asshole is actually from Canada? God golly sweet molly.

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[JIBBBY]

Trump is the man.. He's gonna win and I can't see him losing unless he really has a brain fart in crunch time or quits.. Rubio is his biggest threat.. Carson is too soft..

Loving Trump at +500 odds to win the Republican party.. Easiest money you'll ever make... I got in at +800 so I'm good.. Some got in at even better odds then that early on... He'll probably win the presidency as well which is even better odds.. Hillary and or Biden can't beat out the super star... Trump will be dialed in after a year of learning and preparing... He's really still learning on the fly if ya think about it and doing well in the polls..

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ALL IN ON TRUMP!!!... Current odds to win the Presidency.. Load up boys... I'm probably gonna hit this again hard soon.. Max bet with every bookie.... Consider it like a saving account with a massive interest return in a year..

957 Donald Trump wins Election

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I just don't understand why Forbes hasn't listed this in their top 10 one year investment plans yet?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/lawrencelight/2013/01/07/how-to-find-low-risk-high-return-investments/

[Ebe]

I dont see Trump winning

[muldoon]

.When someone judges you, it's about them and their own insecurities, and needs.

Hmmm...so you post that...but also post this



Ipso Facto

[brooks85]

lol you sheep


and yes, he was obviously incompetent coming in and now hindsight proves that. Your pettiness will not change history. I'm a from a southern state? lol what can we expect, you're the same guy who said he is from a diverse country... not very intelligent clearly.

acoochy makes a good coward, poor intellectual tho

[brooks85]

I dont see Trump winning

ok ghost, good thing you're just a ghost so don't have to worry about sounding like a moron on the previous page. I don't know what muldoon's or rkelly's excuse is lol. Maybe you're one of their ghost, you certainly are illogical enough to be one of them.

[JIBBBY]

I dont see Trump winning

[Jeep_Life 42]

Trump is a business man, not a politician and it's exactly what this country needs!

[15805]

Trump is a business man, not a politician and it's exactly what this country needs!

If they take the nomination away from Trump & the Washington Beltway Republicans are sure trying to do
just that, there will be about 25% of hard core Trump supporters who will stay home on Nov 2016,
I'm among them. It's either Trump wins or the Democrat candidate wins. That's fine with me either way
as there is not a dimes worth of difference between the Democrat & Bush, Kasich or Rubio the others who
have a chance.

[ACoochy]

acoochy makes a good coward, poor intellectual tho

Haha the fact you seem to judge all things n this board via intellect shows a very specific mindset that further supports my observation of you being from a southern state.

They don't teach such things such as objectivity in that part of the world. Its clear for all to see that you allow emotion to guide your arguments. Your 1st mistake.

Acting like a totalitarian turd doesn't mean your right. You need to understand first or you'll simply end up in a circular verbose with a bunch of fellow circle jerkers...

Its why I would generally not bother entering a discussion with someone who clearly lacks objectivity, such as yourself.

Its ok though because that dark skin fella will be out of office in 13 months time so you'll be able to find something else to needlessly whinge about as you'll no longer be ruled over by a cultural minority...

People like you are the easiest to read of all because you willingly allow your hate to drive you and only semi consciously try to hide that fact as well...

[rkelly110]

He's from Ohio, a northern state, but yes, he talks southern.

[brooks85]

Haha the fact you seem to judge all things n this board via intellect shows a very specific mindset that further supports my observation of you being from a southern state.

They don't teach such things such as objectivity in that part of the world. Its clear for all to see that you allow emotion to guide your arguments. Your 1st mistake.

Acting like a totalitarian turd doesn't mean your right. You need to understand first or you'll simply end up in a circular verbose with a bunch of fellow circle jerkers...

Its why I would generally not bother entering a discussion with someone who clearly lacks objectivity, such as yourself.

Its ok though because that dark skin fella will be out of office in 13 months time so you'll be able to find something else to needlessly whinge about as you'll no longer be ruled over by a cultural minority...

People like you are the easiest to read of all because you willingly allow your hate to drive you and only semi consciously try to hide that fact as well...

which is another example of the fact your observation skills, on top of your intellect, are inferior.

And you can slice it however you want, you don't engage people like me because you know you have nothing to offer except bs like you're from a diverse country which was pure nonsense. Now show how mature you are and admit that.

[PromiseLand]

So why is Trump going to win exactly? His proposal that we build a wall between the US and Mexico and somehow make Mexico eat the bill is just laughable. He insults and slams anyone who thinks differently from him; yet, he claims he will be great at foreign policy because he will just "get along" with everyone. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. He also claims that he will be the best at military we've ever seen- just don't ask him about the Kurds. Apparently he also believes that he received more military training at his boarding school than most do who attend real military school so rest assured, he has the credentials. Let's not forget, he's a medical expert as well because he believes that vaccines cause autism...don't worry, there is no scientific evidence to support this belief. The mere fact that he said it means it's gotta be true. You really think this guy has a shot?

It's only been a few months since he started campaigning and he's already pissed off Hispanic voters (immigration policy), women voters (Fiorina remark- just one of many), and Vets (McCain war hero remarks). Think about how many more people he will piss off and alienate over the next 14 months. We're still in the preseason and you guys are talking like the Super Bowl is next week. Vegas is loving every second of the circus- getting all these clowns to bet on Trump when he will end up just being a side note by this time next year.

[15805]

So why is Trump going to win exactly? His proposal that we build a wall between the US and Mexico and somehow make Mexico eat the bill is just laughable. He insults and slams anyone who thinks differently from him; yet, he claims he will be great at foreign policy because he will just "get along" with everyone. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. He also claims that he will be the best at military we've ever seen- just don't ask him about the Kurds. Apparently he also believes that he received more military training at his boarding school than most do who attend real military school so rest assured, he has the credentials. Let's not forget, he's a medical expert as well because he believes that vaccines cause autism...don't worry, there is no scientific evidence to support this belief. The mere fact that he said it means it's gotta be true. You really think this guy has a shot?

It's only been a few months since he started campaigning and he's already pissed off Hispanic voters (immigration policy), women voters (Fiorina remark- just one of many), and Vets (McCain war hero remarks). Think about how many more people he will piss off and alienate over the next 14 months. We're still in the preseason and you guys are talking like the Super Bowl is next week. Vegas is loving every second of the circus- getting all these clowns to bet on Trump when he will end up just being a side note by this time next year.

'Vegas is loving every second of the circus- getting all these clowns to bet on Trump when
he will end up just being a side note by this time next year."

I love the books & the Trump candidacy:

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[PromiseLand]

Actually, I take that back. Vegas isn't allowed to post presidential odds. Nice bets by the way 15805.

[DwightShrute]

So why is Trump going to win exactly? His proposal that we build a wall between the US and Mexico and somehow make Mexico eat the bill is just laughable. He insults and slams anyone who thinks differently from him; yet, he claims he will be great at foreign policy because he will just "get along" with everyone. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. He also claims that he will be the best at military we've ever seen- just don't ask him about the Kurds. Apparently he also believes that he received more military training at his boarding school than most do who attend real military school so rest assured, he has the credentials. Let's not forget, he's a medical expert as well because he believes that vaccines cause autism...don't worry, there is no scientific evidence to support this belief. The mere fact that he said it means it's gotta be true. You really think this guy has a shot?

It's only been a few months since he started campaigning and he's already pissed off Hispanic voters (immigration policy), women voters (Fiorina remark- just one of many), and Vets (McCain war hero remarks). Think about how many more people he will piss off and alienate over the next 14 months. We're still in the preseason and you guys are talking like the Super Bowl is next week. Vegas is loving every second of the circus- getting all these clowns to bet on Trump when he will end up just being a side note by this time next year.

and you support who for the next president?

To me. and many others, supporting anyone other than Trump is saying I believe in all the lies all over again. You are doing exactly what the establishment wants. Go ahead Lucy, I know you will not move that football this time.

You and others criticize him about Hispanics and the Vets but fail to see the genius in it. He brought attention to those problems. You can't buy that kind of publicity. That's why he's leading. Trump is the only one self funding his campaign. No one will tell him what to think and what to say. What a breathe of fresh air. Finally a real choice. He is the only choice in 2016. Unless you are happy with more incompetent.

[T4TRUTH]

and you support who for the next president?

To me. and many others, supporting anyone other than Trump is saying I believe in all the lies all over again. You are doing exactly what the establishment wants. Go ahead Lucy, I know you will not move that football this time.

You and others criticize him about Hispanics and the Vets but fail to see the genius in it. He brought attention to those problems. You can't buy that kind of publicity. That's why he's leading. Trump is the only one self funding his campaign. No one will tell him what to think and what to say. What a breathe of fresh air. Finally a real choice. He is the only choice in 2016. Unless you are happy with more incompetent.

Unfortunately there is nothing brought to light and if you believe so then it is you who has been in the dark and so with the supporters of Trump , they too have been brought out from the dark too.
There are many other aspects of presidency and policies which need serious intellectual attention. Looking for models and the smug faces and hair do, well. Trump too much time in the bathroom getting ready, puts him more of a woman than a man, ooops I said it, Trump not man enough for the job. end of story.
Anyone fooled into voting is the real real catch and scam they are running, what you are not seeing is that they , lets call em they. the republicrats, believe that if they can sway the democratic vote away from democrats and have it go to trump then they will win with other candidate , So the real game being played is on the TRUMP SUPPORTERS , they will eb fooled into voting republican instead of republicrat. and there lies the scam and the mind bending. Trump is merely a puppet to keep all you believers focused on him while the slight of hand fools you for the presidency, it is politics and the games they play and if someone claims they are TRUMP supporter, then look in the mirror, you just got screwed by the magical game of politics.
good luck to you all who support Trump, THE DONALD.. ohh sorry his funding. hmmmm wait till all that comes out. He is an investor like any other, now why would he invest/spend his own money. To gain more in return,. so if he uses all his own money now how much is he going to have to bend over later????????

[PromiseLand]

and you support who for the next president?

It's too early to tell, but I definitely like Bernie Sanders...not many other options than Hillary for the Dems this early in the game though so that could change later on.

A few things I like about Bernie- he is an advocate of treatment vs. prison for drug offenders, he was against the Iraq war (unlike Hillary), and he won't accept any super PAC donations. I want a president who is going to use diplomacy first and war as an absolute last resort, and I think Bernie falls in line with that belief more than any of the other candidates.

He's drawing some nice crowds right now, but I don't think he has much support from the minority base. That could change over the next year though depending on his campaign strategy...he's definitely benefiting from Hillary's e-mail controversy and a lack of competition from the Dem side right now. Still way too early though- dems haven't even had a debate yet.

[DwightShrute]

Unfortunately there is nothing brought to light and if you believe so then it is you who has been in the dark and so with the supporters of Trump , they too have been brought out from the dark too.
There are many other aspects of presidency and policies which need serious intellectual attention. Looking for models and the smug faces and hair do, well. Trump too much time in the bathroom getting ready, puts him more of a woman than a man, ooops I said it, Trump not man enough for the job. end of story.
Anyone fooled into voting is the real real catch and scam they are running, what you are not seeing is that they , lets call em they. the republicrats, believe that if they can sway the democratic vote away from democrats and have it go to trump then they will win with other candidate , So the real game being played is on the TRUMP SUPPORTERS , they will eb fooled into voting republican instead of republicrat. and there lies the scam and the mind bending. Trump is merely a puppet to keep all you believers focused on him while the slight of hand fools you for the presidency, it is politics and the games they play and if someone claims they are TRUMP supporter, then look in the mirror, you just got screwed by the magical game of politics.
good luck to you all who support Trump, THE DONALD.. ohh sorry his funding. hmmmm wait till all that comes out. He is an investor like any other, now why would he invest/spend his own money. To gain more in return,. so if he uses all his own money now how much is he going to have to bend over later????????

They got fooled in 2008 and again in 2012. My God, a community organizer liar that will likely go down as the worst president ever and people still make excuses about his incompetence. We all know what happens when these career politicians get elected. Rep or dems. Its the same just different master they serve. If you think any different then its hopeless. Big fukking deal about his hair. Think about how stupid that sounds.

You keep on kidding yourself that voting in the same people will get you different results. That's insane. Let's hope enough people get the message before next year.

[DwightShrute]

It's too early to tell, but I definitely like Bernie Sanders...not many other options than Hillary for the Dems this early in the game though so that could change later on.

A few things I like about Bernie- he is an advocate of treatment vs. prison for drug offenders, he was against the Iraq war (unlike Hillary), and he won't accept any super PAC donations. I want a president who is going to use diplomacy first and war as an absolute last resort, and I think Bernie falls in line with that belief more than any of the other candidates.

He's drawing some nice crowds right now, but I don't think he has much support from the minority base. That could change over the next year though depending on his campaign strategy...he's definitely benefiting from Hillary's e-mail controversy and a lack of competition from the Dem side right now. Still way too early though- dems haven't even had a debate yet.

He won't have a choice in accepting super PAC donations will he? Not as far as I understand how they work. Who cares though really.

Sanders is a typical career politician who is being told what to say and when to say it. Offering people everything they want and his only solution is to raise taxes and add another 19 trillion debt. Just that alone should tell you how ridiculous he is. I hope Americans aren't that stupid to actually vote for this guy. Colonel Sanders would be a better president.

[muldoon]

He won't have a choice in accepting super PAC donations will he?

FYI - that's nothing close to how they work.

Make America Great Again is a pro-Trump super pac. He has (in theory) no say in their support.

[PromiseLand]

Sanders is a typical career politician who is being told what to say and when to say it. Offering people everything they want and his only solution is to raise taxes and add another 19 trillion debt. Just that alone should tell you how ridiculous he is. I hope Americans aren't that stupid to actually vote for this guy. Colonel Sanders would be a better president.

I think you're mistaking him for Trump. Trump is the one who just came out with a tax plan that experts are suggesting would add over $10 trillion to the national debt. Where are you getting your 19 trill. number for Bernie's tax plan?

[DwightShrute]

I think you're mistaking him for Trump. Trump is the one who just came out with a tax plan that experts are suggesting would add over $10 trillion to the national debt. Where are you getting your 19 trill. number for Bernie's tax plan?

Many are praising his tax plan actually. The main stream media is dominated by left wing "experts" and will always do whatever they can to put a negative spin on it. There are still some media types who still pretend Trump hates Mexicans. Hard to take them seriously.

The US has an unfair complicated tax system. 30,000+ pages long lol. I don't think Trump went far enough actually but did a great job. I am for a flat tax for every country. 15% no matter how much you make.

Its 18 trillion what Sanders wants to spend. From what I hear.

Lower taxes, lower corporate taxes, get the economy finally growing by putting people back to work and spending money in the country. Like Reagan did. Throwing money at the problem never works. Never will. Almost 20 Trillion now by doing the same shit for years. Why not try and finally reform the tax code?

[DwightShrute]

FYI - that's nothing close to how they work.

Make America Great Again is a pro-Trump super pac. He has (in theory) no say in their support.

are you sure that's not how they work? I understood it as something anyone can do for or against any candidate and the candidate can't do much about it. Isn't that why some candidates say at the end of a commercial how they approve of this message?


I agree with Sanders that Citizens United should be overturned. Its a disgrace.

“A major problem of our campaign finance system is that anybody can start a super PAC on behalf of anybody and can say anything. And this is what makes our current campaign finance situation totally absurd.”Sen. Bernie Sanders, running for Democratic presidential nomination

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/05/30/pacs-promote-sanders/28159039/

[muldoon]

Lower taxes, lower corporate taxes, get the economy finally growing by putting people back to work and spending money in the country. Like Reagan did.

He also had the debt triple under him while in office. So 900 billion to 2.7 trillion in the 80s was ok (300%) but 100% under Bush and around 90-100% under Obama is suddenly a tragedy that makes you spill your maple syrup poutine flavored beer?

[muldoon]

are you sure that's not how they work? I understood it as something anyone can do for or against any candidate and the candidate can't do much about it. Isn't that why some candidates say at the end of a commercial how they approve of this message?

They'll say that at the end of an ad that their campaign actually paid for.

There are different types of PAC's - but generally they are (in theory) not supposed to coordinate with the candidate they support. They mask themselves as being advocates for a specific cause, but in truth, it's just a way to get around campaign finance laws.

So a PAC that supports Jeb but wants to hurt Rubio will have 30 seconds bashing Rubio, normally never mention Jeb, and then end with

"Paid for by Citizens for Responsible Taxation"

[DwightShrute]

He also had the debt triple under him while in office. So 900 billion to 2.7 trillion in the 80s was ok (300%) but 100% under Bush and around 90-100% under Obama is suddenly a tragedy that makes you spill your maple syrup poutine flavored beer?

America was great back then.


Trump is the smartest of all the candidates regardless of party. He's is the only one who can make America great again.

[DwightShrute]

They'll say that at the end of an ad that their campaign actually paid for.

There are different types of PAC's - but generally they are (in theory) not supposed to coordinate with the candidate they support. They mask themselves as being advocates for a specific cause, but in truth, it's just a way to get around campaign finance laws.

So a PAC that supports Jeb but wants to hurt Rubio will have 30 seconds bashing Rubio, normally never mention Jeb, and then end with

"Paid for by Citizens for Responsible Taxation"

right. so the actually candidate likely has no control over the pac and how the money is used. Right?

[muldoon]

right. so the actually candidate likely has no control over the pac and how the money is used. Right?

Legally - they aren't supposed to have anything to do with it.

So to address your initial point where you said Sanders wouldn't have a choice accepting their money, there is no money to accept. If they want to set up a pro-Sanders PAC and take out ads, they can. Just like the Trump super pac can (and is) going to do the same.

[muldoon]

America was great back then.
.

To you it was. You were a kid with only limited access to news and entertainment from across the border.

To suddenly toss out people from mental institutions and throw them in jail, has had an effect that will last generations. To deal with a crisis (AIDS) by treating it at first as "gay cancer" and then refusing to even talk about how preventable it was (condoms), was pretty sad.

To become so paranoid about crack-cocaine that sentences for 1 gram of crack would net someone 100x the length of sentence as 1 gram of cocaine, ushered in an era that essentially criminalized one sub-set of the population (the segment that couldn't afford cocaine)

To embrace dictators and terrorists because they were (at the time) enemy of our enemy. Then blame Clinton or GW a decade later when these people we embraced turned on us.

To idly sit by while a private military was created and funded to fight a negligible communist threat in South America.

If you were a teenager (in Canada I assume) in the 80's - your memories are of the big bad soviets, the collapse of communism, Magnum PI and John Hughes movies (mine as well - but from Idaho). Mixed with the odd trip to Wash State I'm assuming for you - was probably your entire experience of what the US was about.

There were 34 school shootings that were documented (many didn't get reported outside of their local areas). There was drug tampering (the Tylenol murders). 20+ people murdered at a McDonalds near San Diego.

But we live in an era now where everyone is bombarded with not just bad news, but with conspiracy theories for every crime.

My point is not that the 80's sucked (above list notwithstanding), it's that when your world is small, your needs are small. Your biggest concern was (most likely) lining up dates for dances or juggling friends and a p/t job. Small world, small problems.

When things are painted as US vs. THEM - it's a lot easier then "maybe we shouldn't be droning these a-holes and killing all their neighbors creating more problems". Nuance can suck - but grey is the color of a lot of situations, not black or white.

For teens today, they'll look back on these days the same way you do on the 80's -- except they will have better documented record to cite. It'll be interesting to see how they treat this decade in retrospect.

[rkelly110]

I'll add to that with my own experiences.

Feared for my job under both of Reagan's terms. Full time people where I worked were dropped to part time
with no benefits, because of lack of work. They had to take it, because unemployment was 10%.

Bought my 2nd house at 13% interest with a 5 year balloon payment. It's never been higher. Luckily rates
went down before the 5 years and refi'd.

Reagan redid the tax code. Used to be, you could claim everything, like a business could. Sales tax on large items,
such as cars, refrigerators etc. Claim mileage to and from work, babysitter money paid out. It was a nightmare
saving and going through those receipts. Simplifying made our lives easier, but how much were we getting screwed?
Can't remember what I got back before the change compared to after.

I know the 80's were a time for making money. Greed and drugs were rampant. Might be why the Repubs love Reagan.

The Repubs should love Obama too. Dow up 10,000 points and drugs are still rampant. Instead of the Police being
the top band, it's Beyonce. Maybe that's why they don't like him.

[brooks85]

thankfully we have facts instead of two proven imbeciles account of the 80s which was a much better time for American people. The fact of the matter is you'd be a complete bias moron to suggest USA is even close to what it was under Reagan. You feared for your job while many others had NO problem because they had the skill set needed.

[DwightShrute]

thankfully we have facts instead of two proven imbeciles account of the 80s which was a much better time for American people. The fact of the matter is you'd be a complete bias moron to suggest USA is even close to what it was under Reagan. You feared for your job while many others had NO problem because they had the skill set needed.

amazing!

It was somewhat entertaining to read their responses however. Just further evidence we'll never agree on just about anything.

[Ataraxia]

“Idiot - A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to any special field of thought or action, but "pervades and regulates the whole." He has the last word in everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations of speech and circumscribes conduct with a dead-line.”

[rkelly110]

thankfully we have facts instead of two proven imbeciles account of the 80s which was a much better time for American people. The fact of the matter is you'd be a complete bias moron to suggest USA is even close to what it was under Reagan. You feared for your job while many others had NO problem because they had the skill set needed.

Did Reagan's unemployment numbers decrease in his 1st year in office? Nope. Increased. Did his debt increase? Yep.

I was living it while you were still pooping your diaper.

I wasn't put part time, because I HAD the skillset. I was an asset, unlike some people I know who sit on their ass in a cubicle. Asset instead of ass sit.