Originally posted by BarstoolProphet
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Makes an awful lot more sense than a wall!Comment -
fair enough bol like CONN-2 tomorrow if you indulge and TCU-3Originally posted by JIBBBYComment -
I think that's a sign of the apocalypse!Originally posted by itchypickleComment -
You don't live in Los Angeles, California like I do pal where I've seen this city get over run by illegal Mexican immigrants. It's brought down our public schools, crowded our freeways, and clogged our courts and hospitals.. I can go on and on.. You have no idea how illegal immigrants have degraded LA..Originally posted by BarstoolProphet
Give it more time and it will hit other major cities near you, bankrupt them, dirty them up, etc.. It's not a good thing over time trust me.. That's why I'm so strong on the Wall and deportation.. I grew up here and have seen what has happened over the last 15 years.. NOT GOOD!!!
I like Mexicans too, have no problem with them.. Just want them to come in legally now and work for it.. Get the bad ones out.. Be legit!!!
I don't post Trump wall meme's because I hate Mexicans, I post them because I want to preserve America and Los Angeles and reverse the flow of illegal immigration where I live.. That's all..Comment -
Love how the Dems were falling all over themselves heading to the exits as soon as it was over... Bunch of cockroaches, literally!Comment -
Originally posted by BarstoolProphet
And what about the millions that have no intention of working and are only here to take advantage of the system? How do we take care of that problem?Comment -
Lol, I thought it was more amusing to see them force back clapping when they wanted too.. Finally they had to stand and clap at the end and just couldn't hold back anymore.... Very amusing to see..Originally posted by Art VandelayComment -
taking advantage how without proper ID documents?Originally posted by KermitComment -
Dems in a really tough spot. You can see how ridiculous the resident libs look in this thread post speech. Imagine how the dem lawmakers feel? The dem response by a nobody was bizarrely weird too.Originally posted by JIBBBY
Price of poker just went went up. It's game on.Comment -
Like your suppose to have now?Originally posted by Hareeba!Comment -
Originally posted by BarstoolProphet
you truly could not be any more incorrect. I don't say this as an insult but as a fact, you need to learn from history. What you said was 100% incorrect.
Also, you're proving your naivety by saying "illegals that want to live the American Dream." If you truly believe that then I could sell you ice in Alaska.
Unless you think the American dream is sucking on the governments tit at a higher rate than black/whites, costing more than black/whites and raising kids who suck on the governments tit at a higher rate than black/whites. So if that is what you mean by American Dream then sure.Comment -
Originally posted by Hareeba!
it's honestly cute how naive liberals are. Truly like explaining things to children. Chico thought the same thing lolComment -
Just so you know, it was a democrat congress AND a democrat president who authored AND signed the current immigration law. All Trump is doing is following it. You want a different law and a wide open border? Try winning an election.People need to wake the F up. THe least of Americas problems are with the "illegals" that are here trying to live the American dream.Comment -
Source?Originally posted by RoyBacon
This is what I found. https://www.reference.com/government...milarQuestions
FULL ANSWER
The Immigration Reform bill is the brainchild of a bipartisan group of eight senators colloquially referred to as the "Gang of Eight," states the American Immigration Council. Senators Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham, Robert Menendez, Charles Schumer, Michael Bennet, Richard Durbin and John McCain crafted the draft law in 2013.
Among other measures, the bill contains proposals to correct several weaknesses in the immigration system, explains the American Immigration Council. The draft law seeks to refine the asylum system, grant certain groups access to legal counsel and give immigration judges improved legal authority to determine certain removal cases. Additionally, the bill seeks to enhance immigrant integration and make it harder for individuals with certain criminal records to obtain legal residency.
If enacted, some proposals in the bill would go into effect very quickly, notes the American Immigration Council. For instance, undocumented aliens would be immediately eligible for the Registered Provisional Immigrant program, while residence applications for certain groups of people would be expedited.
However, some measures, such as proposals to amend employment-based and family immigration categories, would be gradually implemented, explains the American Immigration Council.Comment -
Dow 21K today a morning after a great speech by the President. Things are looking up for America at every turn!Comment -
I'd love to hear Mark Cuban's logic right now, I've always liked clown shows.Comment -
The bill you referenced was never passed. The current law is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigr...ty_Act_of_1965Originally posted by rkelly110
The gang of 8 bill you referenced will probably be very similar to what is eventually passed.
You have to admit the irony of a Republican president enforcing a Democrat passed law and having so many democrats complain about it.Comment -
Nature of the beast. Just like the last 8 years. Repubs cried about everything Obama did.Originally posted by RoyBaconComment -
cause he was clueless and incompetent. duh!Originally posted by rkelly110
There's a difference.Comment -
Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. ... Citizen children of illegal immigrants -- often derogatorily referred to as "anchor babies" -- do qualify for social benefits. Also, undocumented immigrants are eligible for schooling and emergency medical care.Nov 20, 2014Originally posted by brooks85
it's honestly cute how naive liberals are. Truly like explaining things to children. Chico thought the same thing lolComment -
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Undocumented immigrants are already U.S. taxpayers.
Collectively, they paid an estimated $10.6 billion to state and local taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a research organization that works on tax policy issues. Contributions varied by state. In Montana they contributed $2 million. In California, more than $2.2 billion. On average they pay about 6.4% of their income in state and local taxes, ITEP said.
A 2007 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report on the impact of undocumented immigrants on the budgets of local and state governments cited IRS figures showing that 50% to 75% of the about 11 million unauthorized U.S. immigrants file and pay income taxes each year.
A 2013 CBO analysis of the failed bipartisan bill introduced by the so-called "gang of 8" that would have created a path to legal status for many undocumented immigrants found that increasing legal immigration would increase government spending on refundable tax credits, Medicaid and health insurance subsidies, among other federal benefits. But it would also create even more tax revenue by way of income and payroll taxes. That could reduce deficits by $175 billion over the first 10 years and by at least $700 billion in the second decade.
ITEP estimates that allowing certain immigrants to stay in the country and work legally would boost state and local tax contributions by $2 billion a year.
Related: America's most dangerous jobs.
Myth # 2: They don't pay into Social Security
The truth is that undocumented immigrants contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits.
Take Social Security. According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), unauthorized immigrants -- who are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits -- have paid an eye-popping $100 billion into the fund over the past decade.
"They are paying an estimated $15 billion a year into Social Security with no intention of ever collecting benefits," Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the SSA told CNNMoney. "Without the estimated 3.1 million undocumented immigrants paying into the system, Social Security would have entered persistent shortfall of tax revenue to cover payouts starting in 2009," he said.
As the baby boom generation ages and retires, immigrant workers are key to shoring up Social Security and counteracting the effects of the decline in U.S.-born workers paying into the system, Goss said.
Without immigrants, the Social Security Board of Trustees projects that the system will no longer be able to pay the full promised benefits by 2037.
Myth #3: They drain the system
Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.
Related: Part-time jobs put millions in poverty or close to it.
Non-citizen immigrant adults and children are about 25% less likely to be signed up for Medicaid than their poor native-born equivalents and are also 37% less likely to receive food stamps, according to a 2013 study by the Cato Institute.
Citizen children of illegal immigrants -- often derogatorily referred to as "anchor babies" -- do qualify for social benefits. Also, undocumented immigrants are eligible for schooling and emergency medical care. Currently, the average unlawful immigrant household costs taxpayers $14,387 per household, according to a recent report by The Heritage Foundation. But in its 2013 "Immigration Myths and Facts" report, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce says most economists see providing these benefits as an investment for the future, when these children become workers and taxpayers.
A CBO report on the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2007 concluded that a path to legalization for immigrants would increase federal revenues by $48 billion. Such a plan would see $23 billion in increased costs from the use of public services, but ultimately, it would produce a surplus of $25 billion for government coffers, CBO said.
Myth # 4: They take American jobs
The American economy needs immigrant workers.
The belief that immigrants take jobs that can otherwise be filled by hard-working Americans has been disputed by an overwhelming number of economic research studies and data.
Related: Four immigration fixes that could turbo-charge tech.
Removing the approximately 8 million unauthorized workers in the United States would not automatically create 8 million job openings for unemployed Americans, said Daniel Griswold, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Trade Policy Studies, in his 2011 testimony before the House Judiciary Sub-committee on Immigration Policy and Enforcement.
The reason, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, is two-fold. For one, removing millions of undocumented workers from the economy would also remove millions of entrepreneurs, consumers and taxpayers. The economy would actually lose jobs. Second, native-born workers and immigrant workers tend to possess different skills that often complement one another.
According to Griswold, immigrants, regardless of status, fill the growing gap between expanding low-skilled jobs and the shrinking pool of native-born Americans who are willing to take such jobs. By facilitating the growth of such sectors as retail, agriculture, landscaping, restaurants, and hotels, low-skilled immigrants have enabled those sectors to expand, attract investment, and create middle-class jobs in management, design and engineering, bookkeeping, marketing and other areas that employ U.S. citizens.
America's unions support the president's executive action. "For far too long, our broken immigration system has allowed employers to drive down wages and working conditions in our country," the AFL-CIO says on its website. "The brunt of the impact has been born by immigrant workers, who face the highest rates of wage theft, sexual harassment, and death and injury on the job."
Myth # 5: It's just a matter of following the law
Many Americans want immigrants to enter the country legally.
But under current immigration laws, there are very few options for legal immigration, the costs are increasingly prohibitive and the wait for any kind of status can be long and frustrating.
Related: I created 7 jobs and the US tried to deport me.
According to the State Department, that imaginary "immigration line" is already 4.4 million people long and depending on the type of **** sought and the country of origin, the wait can be years to decades long. In some countries, such as the Philippines and Mexico people have been waiting over 20 years for approval of a family-sponsored ****.
Immigrants can legally get to the U.S by being sponsored by an employer or a family member, they can enter the country as refugees, or they could receive one of the selectively distributed professional or diversity visas. The Diversity **** Program makes 55,000 green cards available to persons from countries with low rates of immigration to the U.S.
According to the State Department, the fees to obtain permanent U.S. visas can range from $200 to over $700, excluding legal fees. Plus, there are **** quotas which limits immigration from any given country.
In many poor, violence-ridden countries, or in cases where parents are separated from their children, immigrants say the wait is unbearable, leaving many to resort to illegal border crossing.
That journey can be expensive and deadly.
Smugglers charge anywhere from $3000 to upwards of $70,000 depending on country of origin, mode of transport and distance travelled according to the Mexican Migration Project, a multidisciplinary research effort between investigators in Mexico and the U.S.
Many don't make it. According to federal records, more than 6,000 immigrants have died crossing the southern border since 1998
CNNMoney (New York)First published November 20, 2014: 5:49 PM ET
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Like your boy trying to write an exe order on banning muslims?Originally posted by DwightShrute
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Brooks your stupidity has no limits. But i guess the dept of taxation and the irs are fake newsComment -
lol ok "reveal in your stupidity" and your IQ was what again? hahahah
Originally posted by chico2663
lol love how gullible you are, like a child.
My favorite was when you said they can't get healthcare because some made up person you know "said so." Bless your heart chico, truly pity you. I won't lie it bothers me you're allowed to vote with a broken brain but rkelly is doing it so I guess you can too.Comment -
LOL, brooksy won't read.Originally posted by chico2663
He's getting owned today.
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^that desperation couldn't be any more transparent. The moronic child who has been posting "didn't read" like the 12yearold girl for the past month is trying to say someone else didn't read something lol patheticComment -
Congrats on the orange chimp for reading off a teleprompter. I like how he blamed the death of the seal on the generals. I can't wait til they kill obama care. Those tax credits are really going to help the working poor. I remember how Reagan lost the senate. I can see the same same happening in 2018Comment -
Originally posted by chico2663 stop, you're killing me here
nothing but failed prediction after failed prediction, bs post after bs post, but yeah, "you can see." haha bless your heart little buddyComment -
yes the state of texas and the state of california. But not sure if they could be called personsOriginally posted by brooks85Comment -
In California and Massachusetts, the PRUCOL status given to the undocumented immigrants allows them to receive certain health care benefits, such as scheduled dialysis. However, in Texas, undocumented immigrants are not given PRUCOL status and, hence, do not receive any public or health care benefits.
Dialysis is for people whose kidneys don't work but everyone else is discludedComment -
here is some adviceOriginally posted by chico2663
don't listen to everything people say
stop believing the memes you see on facebook
those two things would prevent you from posting 90% of the incorrect BS you post.Comment -
Brooks those are articles from usa today, cnn money and couple others. Those aren't memes . It is a shame your not smart enough to use google. That way you wouldn't look so foolish. But please don't let the truth get in the way of your beliefs.Comment -
lol bless your heart little buddy.Originally posted by chico2663
You just keep getting fooled by the same perpetrators and come back again like a beaten dog.Comment -
Brooks has my daddy once said when you argue with an idiot then you become the idiot. Well this idiot is tired of being so. You will always be an idiot but I choose not too. Have a nice day sweeping that floor. Please ask your boss how to use googleComment -
yeah, you tried that one before; about 1000 times now. Write it down so you don't forget, didn't work the previous 1000 times.Originally posted by chico2663
"reveal in your stupidity"
why even bother pretending chico? go play videogames or something.Comment
