@nytimes is press but so are a thousand other media--they don't have MORE First Amendment rights than anyone else.
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19th HoleSBR Posting Legend- 03-22-09
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RoyBaconBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19777Why should he release his tax returns? Is it required? Libs want fresh meat. Sorry none here just a big ole steamroller with a Make America Great Again paint job.
That was hilarious.Trump killing it at Cpac.
he called CNN the Clinton News Network.
He really is connecting with the people, especially working people. There is no cowering in the corner Obama style. Libs desperate to slow him down but just don't have the numbers anymore.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#19778Some reporters are out to see Trump burn and now willing to create fake news to do it.. Sad state the main stream media is in today.. No integrity anymore... That's why Trump is killing them..Originally posted by 19th Hole@nytimes is press but so are a thousand other media--they don't have MORE First Amendment rights than anyone else.
Trump will continue to rip them to shreds until they get their act together.. The right wing media was guilty of it as well at times in the past.. Both sides are not immune to fake news.. Like the child Clinton sex ring scandal in the pizzaria story.. That was FAKE news.. The only difference now is the Liberal Media has gone over board with fake news and or extremely exaggerating stories lately to clearly damage Trump.. It's beyond being bias now..
I keep an open mind to this and I just see some butt hurt network reporters, editors and news paper people trying desperately to get back at Trump now.. Like the Putin and Trump friendship claim that doesn't exist which is clearly obvious today.. Liberal media still tries to bring that up and it's FAKE NEWS..
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evo34SBR MVP
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#19779And I've had an Obamacare exchange plan for the past several years. Every major insurer dropped out of NYC except for Anthem and UHC. What they did was jack up premiums and cut down their networks to exclude most of the decent hospitals/doctors in the area. [I'm referring to the most expensive plans avail. on the exchange, btw]. If you call in to make an appt. and tell them you have United Healthcare, they say "Ok, great. Wait -- you have a normal plan, not something you got on the exchange, right?" "Uh, no. It's an exchange plan." "Oh. [muffled laugh/sneer]. No, no -- we don't take anything like that."Originally posted by chico2663The only way it self destructs is that they took out the taxes. Otherwise it never self destructs. Also the reason that anthem and humana are opting out is because they tried to merge and it was denied. It has been proven that the opted out of counties they were making money on. Ps Brother works for humana for over a decade (which started out as a catholic hospital out of louisville) . I used to sell for anthem and they are big in cincy where i lived for 40 years.
So they are essentially selling branded Medicaid -- nothing resembling what they offer to employers. There's only so much cutting down of networks you can do. They have no other levers to pull besides dropping out, which UHC and Anthem almost surely will do in 2018.
Same thing is happening across the country. So no, Obamacare would not survive more than another 18 months without major changes anyway.Comment -
chico2663BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19780I also had after stroke. Make too much on disability to get a credit. My brother works for humana. An ex partner sells for anthem and and many guys that had contracts with me that work for united health care. Your problem is that in new york the only way you can sell in the state is if you have a home office in it. That begins to limit the companies that can sell to you.Originally posted by evo34And I've had an Obamacare exchange plan for the past several years. Every major insurer dropped out of NYC except for Anthem and UHC. What they did was jack up premiums and cut down their networks to exclude most of the decent hospitals/doctors in the area. [I'm referring to the most expensive plans avail. on the exchange, btw]. If you call in to make an appt. and tell them you have United Healthcare, they say "Ok, great. Wait -- you have a normal plan, not something you got on the exchange, right?" "Uh, no. It's an exchange plan." "Oh. [muffled laugh/sneer]. No, no -- we don't take anything like that."
So they are essentially selling branded Medicaid -- nothing resembling what they offer to employers. There's only so much cutting down of networks you can do. They have no other levers to pull besides dropping out, which UHC and Anthem almost surely will do in 2018.
Same thing is happening across the country. So no, Obamacare would not survive more than another 18 months without major changes anyway.
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chico2663BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19781even if they allow competition you are ****** because of the state you live in. The article above states where aetna told them if they blocked the merger they were going to drop the obama care. I can show you many articles where even in the counties that companies were profitable they were holding the exchange hostage. There is a reason that all the major ceos of these companies are now making 14 million are more whereas they were making 4 mil before obama care. The problem was the doctors not wanting to take the coverage because of these companies slow paying. It was what 4 different drs. in ohio and 2 in texas telling me. I think the word for new york is that companies have to be domiciled in new york to sell in that state.Comment -
evo34SBR MVP
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#19783It's not a NY thing. Some other states have zero major insurers on the exchange. I had indiv. insurance in NYC for years before Obamacare and you could get the same exact networks that were offered to businesses -- i.e., good ones. They've whittled away at the networks (these are special networks they created solely for exchange plans, btw) every single year since Obamacare started. They aren't just slow-paying, btw. They are low-paying. They reimburse doctors so shittily that all but the most desperate doctors leave the network over time.Originally posted by chico2663even if they allow competition you are ****** because of the state you live in. The article above states where aetna told them if they blocked the merger they were going to drop the obama care. I can show you many articles where even in the counties that companies were profitable they were holding the exchange hostage. There is a reason that all the major ceos of these companies are now making 14 million are more whereas they were making 4 mil before obama care. The problem was the doctors not wanting to take the coverage because of these companies slow paying. It was what 4 different drs. in ohio and 2 in texas telling me. I think the word for new york is that companies have to be domiciled in new york to sell in that state.
Anyway, it's not sustainable at all. Once all the doctors leave all the exchange plans and/or insurers leave all the markets, you have no exchanges. And, yes, insurer greed is a big part of the equation -- as it always is. But there is nothing in place to stop it. The two things they forgot to regulate -- what markets you have to participate in, and how reasonable your reimbursement rates need to be -- ensured eventual failure of the ACA.Comment -
chico2663BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19784What i am trying to tell you is that new york has a screwed up law as far as insurance. They only allow you to sell in that state if you have a home office in that state. They have to be domiciled in that state. This cuts the options down. I sold health insurance for a living among other products. including thru the exchangeComment -
RoyBaconBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19787khicks would I hope you don't waste your time watching butt hurt liberals create their own fake storyline. Get on board with Making America Great Again. Time to start converting you libs into patriots.Comment -
Andy117SBR Hall of Famer
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#19788That conservative audience wasn't smart enough to figure out that they were waiving Russian flags.Originally posted by DwightShrute
Alt-Left Troll Ejected From CPAC After Planting 'Trump' Branded Russian Flags
Fake Media and RKelly from SBR pounce too soon, thinks conservative audience is in-the-tank for Putin
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khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#19790I don't think a bunch of rich bastards, DEM's or REP's corporate schills are going to make America Great Again. They are the ones ruining it in the first place.Originally posted by RoyBaconkhicks would I hope you don't waste your time watching butt hurt liberals create their own fake storyline. Get on board with Making America Great Again. Time to start converting you libs into patriots.
Obama was in Wall Street's pocket & so is Trump. With his Big Oil, Goldman Sacs, War Monger cabinet. Trump lied to get elected just like Obama.
Trump is the right wing version of Obama. Also I'm not a Liberal, & more of an America Patriot than you. If fact going in with Trump would make you more of a Red Coat. You know the guys the Patriots fought.Comment -
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#19791Seems the Trump supporters on this board are the most ignorant and dismissive of what really goes on than any Ive seen. They never care to discuss those type things.Originally posted by khicks26I don't think a bunch of rich bastards, DEM's or REP's corporate schills are going to make America Great Again. They are the ones ruining it in the first place.
Obama was in Wall Street's pocket & so is Trump. With his Big Oil, Goldman Sacs, War Monger cabinet. Trump lied to get elected just like Obama.
Trump is the right wing version of Obama. Also I'm not a Liberal, & more of an America Patriot than you. If fact going in with Trump would make you more of a Red Coat. You know the guys the Patriots fought.Comment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
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#19792I know its all about Left/Right, Dem vs Rep, & their side won. The shit they use to divide the country.Originally posted by jtolerSeems the Trump supporters on this board are the most ignorant and dismissive of what really goes on than any Ive seen. They never care to discuss those type things.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
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chico2663BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19794Mcmasters just said don't called them radical islamist terrorist. Trump got to be crying.Comment -
BOA12SBR Posting Legend
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#19796think that's been the plan all along. Conflict is what they want,they don't care if you are for or against. Those in control want balanced books and poeple of passion to fight it out. Diabolical way to divide the USA by putting an idiot in charge.Originally posted by khicks26I know its all about Left/Right, Dem vs Rep, & their side won. The shit they use to divide the country.Comment -
BOA12SBR Posting Legend
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#19797think that's been the plan all along. Conflict is what they want,they don't care if you are for or against. Those in control want balanced books and poeple of passion to fight it out. Diabolical way to divide the USA by putting an idiot in charge.Comment -
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itchypickleSBR Posting Legend
- 11-05-09
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#19803Winning post on the topic right there. The big players are use to getting their way for last years and rude awakening. Funny seeing them put out statements saying "we hope the journalists who got to attend will share their information with us as well" ....uhmmm pretty sure that by the time you put that statement you could have used your phone or tablet to read what you wanted like the rest of us. They all are fast to get the word out.Originally posted by 19th Hole@nytimes is press but so are a thousand other media--they don't have MORE First Amendment rights than anyone else.
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Roscoe_WordSBR MVP
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#19805I saw it too. The "globalist" movement has hit a snag.Originally posted by JIBBBYI saw this tonight, spot on indeed...Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
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#19806Build the Wall !!!
Mexican border wall building contracts to be awarded by April
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Friday that it plans to start awarding contracts by mid-April for President Donald Trump's proposed border wall with…
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JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#19807I don't always agree with Republican pushed agenda's, these two I have a problem with.. Not the end of the world though...
I don't agree with Trump trying to kill the weed industry for recreational use.. Weed isn't the problem in America like Heroin, Meth, Crack, Alcohol and prescription pills are... Weed is not a gateway drug for most, it doesn't make you violent either.. Weed creates huge tax revenues which would otherwise not be reported by your local illegal weed dealers... It makes many violent thugs chill also IMO...
I understand you don't want all of America high on weed but that's a personal choice.. Weed is not addictive like Heroin, Meth, Crack, Alcohol and prescription drugs either..
These are Republican pushed agendas and always have been which I don't agree with at all, just like abortion should be a personal choice and not a lawful choice either in certain situations... We need to get away from forced regulation and government control much like Obamacare and not add more...
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reigle9SBR Posting Legend
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#19808weed isn't going anywhere lol
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RoyBaconBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-21-05
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#19809Libs already tried the con man angle, fail. Tried the he is an idiot angle, failed. Senators crying - fail. Tried the WH is in disarray - fail again. Tried fake news, paid protesters, protesters who had no clue what they were protesting, tried violence, tried not even showing up to cabinet confirmations and ALL FAILED.
At some point do the libs ever say ok, let's move towards the middle and participate in making America great?? Or do they stay butt hurt forever?Comment -
19th HoleSBR Posting Legend- 03-22-09
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Very thankful for Nigel Farage and Donald J Trump for kicking the NWO in the gonads!!
Can you imagine the USA with floods of unchecked "refugees" and a globalist satanic president
fukking the US and her citizens with the NWO agenda?? Whew!! How close we came.

Let the witch and Bubba spend the rest of their days on Pedophile Island.
Forever disgusting.
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