Donald Trump's US President Odds Improving!!

RoyBacon · 02-13-17, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Roy it is shame your an idiot. No where did I say i'm for undocumented. But to clue you guys on a few facts. Those undocumented are working and paying taxes. Taxes they will never get to claim. Social security and others. You can tell you jackasses never owned a business. Also the employer has to pay the companies.
Kumar referred us to an Atlantic piece about undocumented immigrants paying Social Security taxes. It cites a note issued by the Social Security Administration in 2013 that contains the $12 billion figure. But the calculation is based on contributions from immigrants and their employers, not just the immigrants themselves.
According to the Social Security Administration, there were nearly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States in January 2009. Factoring out kids, nonworking immigrants and those working in the underground economy and not paying taxes, the Social Security Administration estimated about 3.1 million unauthorized immigrants who worked and paid Social Security taxes in 2010.
This group and their employers generated about $13 billion in payroll taxes in 2010. The administration then subtracted about $1 billion in benefits that could’ve been received in 2010 from earnings in years when workers were unauthorized. Workers and employers contribute roughly the same amount.
In a 2014 Vice News piece, the Social Security Administration’s chief actuary Stephen C. Goss affirmed the $12 billion contribution.
Social Security Administration analysts said "a relative

Dude, for someone who calls people dumb you sometimes prove to be not very bright. Real estate businesses as well as others may not pay taxes due mainly to depreciation and other tax credits. They will recapture the depreciation when they sell. I would hope for your benefit you are not challenged to the point you can't grasp those tax code concepts.

Many illegals actually pay zero income taxes. They are paid in cash. I'm 100% sure you understand that, even if you may be ignorant in basic tax code. All of us on the border have paid illegals to do some stone work, pick some fruit, paint, mow, clean ect.

We are going to have immigration but it's going to be, and i'll type slowly, l-e-g-a-l immigration. You will still have Mexicans mow your yard but they will be legal. I know it's such a hard concept but as they say in south Texas watch-a-lea.

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 05:08 PM

dude you are definitely dumb. They work in factories in ohio and get paid a regular check. They may be on fake social security numbers but they do work. In the 80's my uncle sponsored 250 that became legal under reagan. When you have never been around undocumented workers then you wouldn't know. My buddy owns 3 burger kings in cincinnati that employs illegals. He hasn't been caught. He can't hire our youth because they don't want to do yard work or clean toilets. I have a friend that owns a lawn care business that hires them. Pick up your paper and see how many jobs are out there that millenials think it is below their status to work.

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Dude, for someone who calls people dumb you sometimes prove to be not very bright. Real estate businesses as well as others may not pay taxes due mainly to depreciation and other tax credits. They will recapture the depreciation when they sell. I would hope for your benefit you are not challenged to the point you can't grasp those tax code concepts.
Ps dumb ass i'm in houston.
Many illegals actually pay zero income taxes. They are paid in cash. I'm 100% sure you understand that, even if you may be ignorant in basic tax code. All of us on the border have paid illegals to do some stone work, pick some fruit, paint, mow, clean ect.

We are going to have immigration but it's going to be, and i'll type slowly, l-e-g-a-l immigration. You will still have Mexicans mow your yard but they will be legal. I know it's such a hard concept but as they say in south Texas watch-a-lea.

I guess you don't understand houston is in texas

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Dude, for someone who calls people dumb you sometimes prove to be not very bright. Real estate businesses as well as others may not pay taxes due mainly to depreciation and other tax credits. They will recapture the depreciation when they sell. I would hope for your benefit you are not challenged to the point you can't grasp those tax code concepts.

Many illegals actually pay zero income taxes. They are paid in cash. I'm 100% sure you understand that, even if you may be ignorant in basic tax code. All of us on the border have paid illegals to do some stone work, pick some fruit, paint, mow, clean ect.

We are going to have immigration but it's going to be, and i'll type slowly, l-e-g-a-l immigration. You will still have Mexicans mow your yard but they will be legal. I know it's such a hard concept but as they say in south Texas watch-a-lea.

I owned a company that did all the hud business in sw ohio and n ky. I am sorry that your life is so shitty that a few undocumented really bother you. Yes i understand i own acre and was getting ready to buy foreclosure but had to loan a brother $11,000 . penetrating septic tanks are a bitch

jtoler · 02-13-17, 05:13 PM

Theyre just trying to get a head count on everyone so when the Order starts everyone will be accounted for, just chalk it up as roll call.

bigtymer56 · 02-13-17, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

I thought you guys hated when celebrities expressed their political views.

Anyway good for her. Nobody had any idea who she was before last night. She got the attention she wanted.

RoyBacon · 02-13-17, 05:55 PM

I may be dumb but at least I know exactly what to call them which you are struggling with; they are "illegal aliens". They are not undocumented workers. It's not that difficult, they are here illegally from outside the US, hence the "alien" portion.

My life is fine, thanks for your concern, and I still want the illegal alien issue dealt with. As do most Americans. Some may work factories but most are working for cash and not paying diick in taxes. Their kids go to public schools and they go to the emergency room when they get a fever and the US tax payer pays for it.

Chico I want whats fair. Stop them coming in. Register and vet the ones that are here. Make them get a REAL SS number and pay their fair share. If they can work and not get in trouble then offer citizenship. That's the best we can do and still be fair to the US tax paying real citizens.

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 06:10 PM

i have no problem with that. The dumb ass rick perry made it illegal for undocumented to get a dl in texas. Before if you got hit by an undocumented they had car insurance. Now these pukes are driving illegal and without insurance. That is why the cost of insurance is so damn high in texas. It is called the law of unintended consequences. Yes they shouldn't be here but all the jack wagon did is raise premiums in the state of texas. My premium is 90 more expensive here than in ohio with a clean driving record and a 780 score.

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 06:16 PM

Roy my family came over on the sante teresa land grant in the 1500's. I don't know any undocumented in texas but knew a shit load in cincinnati and hamilton ohio

DwightShrute · 02-13-17, 06:18 PM

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

I thought you guys hated when celebrities expressed their political views.

Anyway good for her. Nobody had any idea who she was before last night. She got the attention she wanted.

I can't stand when celebrities or sport athletes make political statements by opening their mouth.. Wearing a Trump dress I have no problem with.. If she did a long speech about Trump I wouldn't approve of that.. Stick to what you know, song writing and sports in other words..

These celebs probably never watched the news or read a news paper..

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

She might run as Democrat so becareful for what you wish for.. She's kinda liberal by nature.. Nothing like her father..

RoyBacon · 02-13-17, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Roy my family came over on the sante teresa land grant in the 1500's. I don't know any undocumented in texas but knew a shit load in cincinnati and hamilton ohio

chico there is nothing undocumented about them. They are fully documented in Mexico. Let's at least call them what they and not play this Obama style calling Islamic terrorists, but lets call them rascals. We both know they are fully documented where ever they are a citizen. However, they are illegal aliens in the US. See, it's actually not complicated. try it. "Illegal alien"

thetrinity · 02-13-17, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by bigtymer56

I thought you guys hated when celebrities expressed their political views.

Anyway good for her. Nobody had any idea who she was before last night. She got the attention she wanted.

The liberal producer wanted the performers to bring politics so I guess he got his wish.

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 08:26 PM

In other news the son of Jerry Sandusky arrested on child molestation charges.. Apple doesn't fall far from the tree I guess..

SICK FAMILY!!! http://sports.yahoo.com/news/son-of-...195448453.html

ByeShea · 02-13-17, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Here you go mon cheri

Donald Trump: 'I'm smart' for not paying taxes -

They used to post this to prove how he was not going to be elected POTUS.

5mike5 · 02-13-17, 10:26 PM

trumps wgute houese staff is a complete shit show

flynn. Spicer.

5mike5 · 02-13-17, 10:28 PM

Sorry about the spelling. Was laughing so hard I couldn't type on the phone

RoyBacon · 02-13-17, 10:40 PM

Don't worry mike your butt will heal in time. PS I wouldn't wear your hilary shirt or a vagina on your head in Daytona. NASCAR is Trumpville.

5mike5 · 02-13-17, 10:45 PM

I didn't vote for either so I'm hurt at all. Just love all the laughs

5mike5 · 02-13-17, 10:47 PM

The last thing people do at NASCAR evens is talk politics thank god

drinking and making money more important

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 10:53 PM

Even though this flight ban is under scrutiny and in the courts I must say this...

I am very disappointed that Trump didn't slap the fight ban on all the terrorist Countries like Syria and Pakistan.. I do have a problem with him only selecting the 7.. I haven't heard an excuse yet as to why he only chose the 7..

That's the only problem I see with the Trump presidency so far.. I have to stay honest and open minded to everything.. I would have liked to see Trump go all out with this flight ban with every terrorist Country if he is to enforce it..

Trump supporters I'm sure would have liked to see that too.. If you gonna do the travel ban then do it and cover all the Countries...

Other then that I think Trump is still doing a great job so far..

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

Even though this flight ban is under scrutiny and in the courts I must say this...

I am very disappointed that Trump didn't slap the fight ban on all the terrorist Countries like Syria and Pakistan.. I do have a problem with him only selecting the 7.. I haven't heard an excuse yet as to why he only chose the 7..

That's the only problem I see with the Trump presidency so far.. I have to stay honest and open minded to everything.. I would have liked to see Trump go all out with this flight ban with every terrorist Country if he is to enforce it..

Trump supporters I'm sure would have liked to see that too.. If you gonna do the travel ban then do it and cover all the Countries...

Other then that I think Trump is still doing a great job so far..

He has hotels in the others.

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

He has hotels in the others.

Well if that's the reason then I don't like it... The American people safety should come before his hotels.. He has enough money to let those hotels burn to the ground..

I'm wondering if there is something else at play here. I know Obama and Hillary were in bed with Syria.. Maybe something we are missing.. Pakistan has also worked with us in the past also..

I don't think it comes down to just Trumps hotels.. The guy is a billionaire what's a hotel or 2 now in the big picture now that he is President??? I'm NOT buying that Chico..

d2bets · 02-13-17, 11:02 PM

Flynn resigns. Guy is a loose cannon. Almost as bad as Trump.

chico2663 · 02-13-17, 11:20 PM

but christie is gonna be in play

d2bets · 02-13-17, 11:29 PM

Did Trump instruct Flynn and/or know what Flynn talked about? If so, start warming up the impeachment pen...

d2bets · 02-13-17, 11:35 PM

What a difference a day makes? One of the bigger douches is gone. Bannon should be next. Then that Trump guy. He's a nutbag too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We will shortly be releasing a statement about the supposedly "illegal" IMAGINARY discussion I had with the Russian Ambassador. Stay tuned!</p>— Michael Flynn (@GenMikeFlynn) <a href="https://twitter.com/GenMikeFlynn/status/831039073720508416">February 13, 2017</a></blockquote>
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DwightShrute · 02-13-17, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Did Trump instruct Flynn and/or know what Flynn talked about? If so, start warming up the impeachment pen...

JIBBBY · 02-13-17, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by d2bets

Did Trump instruct Flynn and/or know what Flynn talked about? If so, start warming up the impeachment pen...

No D2 it happened before Trump took office.. Stay informed buddy... No ties with Trump...

d2bets · 02-14-17, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

No D2 it happened before Trump took office.. Stay informed buddy... No ties with Trump...

He had already been hired as Trump's NSA head. Of course he had "ties" with Trump. The hell are you smoking?

King Mayan · 02-14-17, 12:02 AM

its going to be a fun 4 years

d2bets · 02-14-17, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by King Mayan

its going to be a fun 4 years

Think he'll make it that long? I have doubts.

DwightShrute · 02-14-17, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Think he'll make it that long? I have doubts.

JIBBBY · 02-14-17, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

He had already been hired as Trump's NSA head. Of course he had "ties" with Trump. The hell are you smoking?

He resigned on his own and the phone calls happened before Trump took office..

Keep reaching at straws D2 it's not gonna stick.. Trump won't take any heat for this.. Dems will try though, anything to bring down Trump..

Pathetic attemps!!