Donald Trump's US President Odds Improving!!

[Mac4Lyfe]

false equivalency attempt.
Trump never took over after a financial crisis.

Dwight - you read too much. I don't care what the circumstances. I only look at results. If Trump triples the market in the next 8 years and the DOW is at 60,000 I would be fukkin ecstatic. I just do not see that happening. It's not a knock on Trump, it's just timing. I am a timely investor. I'm not emotional nor am I political.

[JIBBBY]

BTW - The DOW was 6500 in 2009.

The economy does typically benefit from Democratic presidents and no one can deny that Mac..

Trump is the exception because he really is a wild card and different kind of President... The economy hasn't blinked and probably won't blink with Trump.. I expect him to do better then even Bill Clinton and Obama as that's his #1 priority so far.. Create jobs and bring big business in for America..

He's doing exactly what he said and that's making America come first.. All American citizens will benefit from this..

We do know wars can kill an economy and or huge natural disasters though. If Trump can dodge those bullets we'll be just fine..

[DwightShrute]

Dwight - you read too much. I don't care what the circumstances. I only look at results. If Trump triples the market in the next 8 years and the DOW is at 60,000 I would be fukkin ecstatic. I just do not see that happening. It's not a knock on Trump, it's just timing. I am a timely investor. I'm not emotional nor am I political.

all I am saying is why bother making any comparison. The stock market ain't tripling in the next 8 years no matter what happens. When the dow fell like it did in 2009 everyone knew it was gonna recover. No one was surprised.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I wish I had the confidence to invest in the stock market at it's peak but I don't.. Even under Trump I don't.. I'm happy for all the American stock holders like you that are making boat loads of money off this.. Hope it continues...
I've seen the Stock market peak then crash, peak then crash a few times over my life time. It does cycle eventually..

Dollar cost average and cover your positions... It's okay to be on the sidelines when we're at peaks but look for hidden gems that will rise and fade (sell short) stocks that most assuredly will fall. I'm almost liquid but riding a few stocks the next few weeks. I listed them in another thread and they are kicking ass. Get ready for a correction and then load back up. I should be out tomorrow but I'll let it ride a bit more. The market feels like it's headed for a correction. There's a lot of enthusiasm after an election, especially when companies report good earnings. it's normal but then reality hits and the doldrums days where people get jittery. I think February will be a bad month for the market. I could be wrong but I'm getting out and wait. If it doesn't correct by May, then I'll get back in for a summer run.

and I don't mean get out totally. I mean to start shorting stocks that are overvalued. You can make more money during a crash and turn back around and reinvest than just riding positive rallies.

[Mac4Lyfe]

all I am saying is why bother making any comparison. The stock market ain't tripling in the next 8 years no matter what happens. When the dow fell like it did in 2009 everyone knew it was gonna recover. No one was surprised.

JBibby made the comparison and all I was saying was that it will be very difficult for the market to do as well as when Obama was president. I'm neither repub or dem and really don't care who's in office. I'm just not an Obama hater as I think he did a great (not good) job. I like what Trump is doing thus far and hope he can kick ass. I am country first and I am all in on my presidents, no matter who they are.

[DwightShrute]

JBibby made the comparison and all I was saying was that it will be very difficult for the market to do as well as when Obama was president. I'm neither repub or dem and really don't care who's in office. I'm just not an Obama hater as I think he did a great (not good) job. I like what Trump is doing thus far and hope he can kick ass. I am country first and I am all in on my presidents, no matter who they are.

good man!

[JIBBBY]

JBibby made the comparison and all I was saying was that it will be very difficult for the market to do as well as when Obama was president. I'm neither repub or dem and really don't care who's in office. I'm just not an Obama hater as I think he did a great (not good) job. I like what Trump is doing thus far and hope he can kick ass. I am country first and I am all in on my presidents, no matter who they are.

Wasn't the Dow at 15,000 just a few years ago.. I read some where that it's like 35% increase per year.. That's people investing in air with no substance.. Something has to give at some point that's why I don't have the confidence to invest in the stock market..

I understand though why people and the masses do invest, they don't want to miss out the boat ride..

[Hareeba!]

If you're on Twitter, please enter "asshole", hit the into the Search window, hit return and let me know what you find.

[DwightShrute]

[DwightShrute]

[d2bets]

Wasn't the Dow at 15,000 just a few years ago.. I read some where that it's like 35% increase per year.. That's people investing in air with no substance.. Something has to give at some point that's why I don't have the confidence to invest in the stock market..

I understand though why people and the masses do invest, they don't want to miss out the boat ride..

Remind me not to believe things you read. No, that's not 35%. 15,000 to 20,000 in 3 years is 10% annual. Market has returned about 10% per year average over the last 5 years. If you measure from the 2009 bottom to current, over almost 8 years, it's probably about 13%.

[d2bets]

BTW - The DOW was 6500 in 2009.

That's was the very bottom. A year later it was up 60%. People with cash and balls in 2009 have made a fortune.

[JIBBBY]

Remind me not to believe things you read. No, that's not 35%. 15,000 to 20,000 in 3 years is 10% annual. Market has returned about 10% per year average over the last 5 years. If you measure from the 2009 bottom to current, over almost 8 years, it's probably about 13%.

I ment 35% over the entire time of the 3 years.. Obviously if I said 15,000 to 20,000 today.. I typed that wrong and that's my bad..

Thanks for the correction.. I was watching the games and got side tracked with that post D2..

[Mac4Lyfe]

That's was the very bottom. A year later it was up 60%. People with cash and balls in 2009 have made a fortune.

Most average Joes can invest in their 401ks and be wealthy at retirement. ~$18k/yr 401k plus $5,500/yr Roth IRA is a huge chunk of cash 40 years later. Using 7% interest it is over $5.5 million dollars. It is a no brainer to save into your retirement and the stock market has been pretty steady since forever. I believe the S&P has had an average return of 12% since it's inception in 1926. You can't worry about huge drops. If you get a huge drop, you should sell the farm and get back in.

[Sam Odom]

young folks... max out your 401(k) and IRAs

better to do without some stuff when young and then have a fat nest-egg when old

If you personally invest buy all the SPDR (spy) you can - not sexy but

[inZane]

So the guy who promised us "America First" is giving the green light to a Canadian company to use eminent domain to allow Canadian oil to flow on American soil so they can sell it to China.

So for a few temporary jobs, we assume all of the environmental risk for perpetuity. #maga

[rkelly110]

So the guy who promised us "America First" is giving the green light to a Canadian company to use eminent domain to allow Canadian oil to flow on American soil so they can sell it to China.

So for a few temporary jobs, we assume all of the environmental risk for perpetuity. #maga

Dumb, angry, old, rich presidents have a tendency to do stupid shit like this.

[SteelRain]

So the guy who promised us "America First" is giving the green light to a Canadian company to use eminent domain to allow Canadian oil to flow on American soil so they can sell it to China.

So for a few temporary jobs, we assume all of the environmental risk for perpetuity. #maga

1. That oil was going through rail before the pipeline and would have went through rail regardless if it was canceled. Pipeline is actually much much safer.

2. America first doesn't mean the USA will become an autarky.

3. You are a fukken idiot

[brooks85]

That's was the very bottom. A year later it was up 60%. People with cash and balls in 2009 have made a fortune.

i.e. not d2bets. Like majority of liberals he has no idea what is going on in the stock market and in 2009 he was one of the dumbasses believing we were in a great depression lol

[rkelly110]

1. That oil was going through rail before the pipeline and would have went through rail regardless if it was canceled. Pipeline is actually much much safer.

2. America first doesn't mean the USA will become an autarky.

3. You are a fukken idiot

Oh look. MAGA (Make Assholes Great Again)

[brooks85]

^lol like I said, daily routine for 8 years for this poor pathetic cuck. Clockwork.

[ByeShea]

Dumb, angry, old, rich presidents have a tendency to do stupid shit like this.

Trump is dumb, let me guess, Hillary is smart?

[brooks85]

Oh look. MAGA (Make Assholes Great Again)

would he be an asshole for saying today is Thursday too?

Or how about grass is green, asshole comment?



you're an idiot, an admitted liar, an admitted ignoramus, admitted sheep, admitted hypocrite and today is Thursday.

[rkelly110]

^lol like I said, daily routine for 8 years for this poor pathetic cuck. Clockwork.

And look who responds to being an asshole.....clockwork.

[Russian Rocket]

The reason why Obama barely bombed Syria, is because he was protecting his investment on the ground.

Everyone knows it and that includes most Americans too.

Wrong. You guys moved in there to prevent us from going in and taking out Putin's buddy, Assad.
Knowing full well our pussy president wouldn't start a war with you guys.

We're talking about two separate issues here. Ask yourself what Obama did in Syria and why he did what he did (or didn't do I should say) for 3-4 years prior to Russian intervention and then get back to me.

In January 2014, Obama mocked the emergence of Islamic State in Syria as a minor threat compared with Al Qaeda. He said "If a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant ".

[thetrinity]

Rkelly and his kindergarten mentality back at it.

Make Assholes Great Again is something a 10 year old could find funny.

[brooks85]

And look who responds to being an asshole.....clockwork.

I'll be an asshole and you know you're and idiot. I like where we stand.

[Roscoe_Word]

Seeing the "repeal and replace" program being initiated in the news since Trump's surprise and great victory.

Upon reflection, I can't fathom the false and outlandish claims that duped millions of people.

'We're gonna offer you high quality health care for a much cheaper cost." Doesn't common sense tell us that if something is of a higher quality it would necessarily have to cost more?

I really though Nancy Pelosi was joking when she said: "We have to vote for it to see what's in it." She wasn't. That's gotta be one of the most absurd statements I've ever heard anyone say.

The name of the program was Orwellian. The Affordable Care Act. If the program simply didn't live up to its billing and broke even- that is it didn't lower costs- that would have been bad enough. But it was even worse. It increased the cost of health insurance! Forget about the idea that: "You have to buy health insurance. You have no choice." In America we have to buy something whether we want to or not? And they call us fascists?

Don't know about you guys, but it so good seeing common sense being implemented on the news daily since the Donald took charge.

[brooks85]

The architect admitting he counted on stupid people like Rkelly and other hillary voters.

"...stupidity of the American voter..."


That's you rkelly, d2bets, khicks, turd, kraken, jtoler, jayvegas, turd, dante

[Russian Rocket]

The architect admitting he counted on stupid people like Rkelly and other hillary voters.

"...stupidity of the American voter..."


That's you rkelly, d2bets, khicks, turd, kraken, jtoler, jayvegas, turd, dante

unreal...sheep will be sheep


on the side not: jayvegas is not even an American - he just likes to be part of the herd

[brooks85]

lol yeah he is canadian, same thing since he voted for someone(justin trudeau) with the same amount of reasons as Obama to lead a country; 0

No doubt he would have voted Obama

[Russian Rocket]

lol yeah he is canadian, same thing since he voted for someone(justin trudeau) with the same amount of reasons as Obama to lead a country; 0

No doubt he would have voted Obama

oh yeah I forgot about that one - very good point Brooks

[Sam Odom]

Jan 20, 2017

Are you surprised ?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

[Sam Odom]

M$M fake news narrative is destroyed by Gallup

W Bush > Obama

[Russian Rocket]

Jan 20, 2017

Are you surprised ?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/202742/obama-averages-job-approval-president.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

the best part about these polls, is not that they lie, but that libs still believe in them