Originally posted by khicks26
Donald Trump's US President Odds Improving!!
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brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
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khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
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#5147Originally posted by brooks85lol khicks getting desperate. This isn't a response to the fact he despised your kind far more. Also, I'm not a republican so whiffed again. The fact is he hates your kind khicks and you listen to his music. Oh the sweet irony.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44644
#5148^like I said, you are RG3 being forced back into the game too soon. You can tell you're not even sure of what you're typing anymore lolComment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
- 44208
#5149Originally posted by brooks85^like I said, you are RG3 being forced back into the game too soon. You can tell you're not even sure of what you're typing anymore lolComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44644
#5150Originally posted by khicks26You don't debate topics BARBARA, there's no talking to you but making fun of you. RG3, so fuking lame.
you're doing a terrible job.
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khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
- 44208
#5151Originally posted by brooks85lol do you think you're going to fool anyone. You have a post history of being beat down with facts and logic by me. I've forced you to act like a child instead of an adult. I brought out who you are really are, a liberal. SJW.
you're doing a terrible job.
With a spindle up YOUR butt till it makes you scream
An' you'll do anything to get aheadComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
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#5152Originally posted by brooks85^like I said, you are RG3 being forced back into the game too soon. You can tell you're not even sure of what you're typing anymore lol
very transparent. The RG3 comparison is spot on and I know it is because you used the word lame. You only do that where you get upset about the truth. It is a defense mechanism your psyche uses.Comment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
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#5153Originally posted by brooks85very transparent. The RG3 comparison is spot on and I know it is because you used the word lame. You only do that where you get upset about the truth. It is a defense mechanism your psyche uses.You can take about an hour on the tower of power
As long as you get a little golden showerComment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
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#5154lol khicks turned his "bot" back on
pathetic, lying like a rkelly(another word for a child)Comment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
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#5155& your name is BARBARA BOOKS.
I'm bored with kicking your ass all over the forum. Later LOSER.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
- 01-05-09
- 44644
#5156Originally posted by khicks26& your name is BARBARA BOOKS.
I'm bored with kicking your ass all over the forum. Later LOSER.
lol khicks lying a gain
odds he honors his word
yes +10000000
no -99999999999999
rinse and repeat for clockwork khicksComment -
ByeSheaSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-30-08
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#5158Originally posted by khicks26People have to be pretty desperate to follow a guy like that, & believe in fairy tales.
ACoochy ran hard with that one for months. Now I think he's resting on a funny farm somewhere.Comment -
khicks26SBR Aristocracy
- 09-16-06
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#5159Originally posted by ByeSheaTrump voters are just deplorable.
ACoochy ran hard with that one for months. Now I think he's resting on a funny farm somewhere.Comment -
relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#5160A group of 30 former Republican members of Congress have publicly come out Donald Trump.
It's the largest group of former Republican elected officials to officially announce their opposition to the current leader of their party.
Sadly, our party's nominee this year is a man who makes a mockery of the principles and values we have cherished and which we sought to represent in Congress," the letters states.
make america great againbut not with any of my money
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DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
- 101161
#5161Originally posted by relaaxxA group of 30 former Republican members of Congress have publicly come out Donald Trump.
It's the largest group of former Republican elected officials to officially announce their opposition to the current leader of their party.
Sadly, our party's nominee this year is a man who makes a mockery of the principles and values we have cherished and which we sought to represent in Congress," the letters states.
make america great againbut not with any of my money
All the Bush's and now this. Just keeps getting better.
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relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#5162to maximize the value of his holdings Trump needed to find a way to sell casinos to people who didn't know anything about the nuances of real estate tax law. The mom and pop stock investors of the mid-'90s were the perfect suckers, and they bought into the Trump Casino & Hotel Resorts IPO to the tune of $140 million.
The company's sole asset at the time was the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, and the IPO money was supposed to be reinvested in the company. But Trump Plaza was already indebted, so one of the first moves made with the new equity was to pay down the debts — debts that Trump had personally guaranteed, meaning that company money was used not just to relieve a company debt, but a personal debt owed by Trump himself.Comment -
brainfreezeSBR Hall of Famer
- 05-13-14
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#5163This assange guy has me thinking .... 3am, then says nothing. Who does that? Guy probably really is cointelpro... " they " want all this to go down this way I'm thinking... controlled opps, to mess with internet guidelines globally ...
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relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#5164Having hooked a parade of marks, Trump's next move was to tunnel as much money as possible out of the public company and into his pockets. One easy way to do that was for Trump to have the company he controlled buy things he owned personally.
The public company bought the Trump Castle casino from Trump, for example, for $490 million, a price that James Sterngold reported at the time "was based on optimistic profit projections and was about $100 million too high." Trump also paid himself $880,000 for brokering the deal.
Christina Binkley reported on April 11, 1997, on Trump's obscene pay package for himself:
Donald J. Trump received a $7 million pay package in 1996, including a $5 million bonus and a 71% salary increase, despite a more than 70% drop in the shares of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts Inc. from their high last year.
In addition to his bonus, Mr. Trump, the company's chairman, received a salary of $1 million and another $1 million to cover services rendered by Mr. Trump's privately held companies to Trump Hotels, according to the company's recent filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The company's share price dropped because it was unprofitable. And it was unprofitable because it ended up assuming $1.7 billion in debt as part of its acquisition of formerly Trump-owned enterprises. Trump was, in essence, paying himself a high salary for the trouble of running a company whose main purpose was to take enormous bad debts off Trump's personal balance sheet and shift them over to the company.
"Other than the stock price, we're doing great," he told Binkley.
But Drew Harwell's analysis of the company's financial records this June shows that the tunneling took on a more extreme scope. In addition to assuming Trump's personal debts and paying him an exorbitant salary, Trump's public company was a heavy purchaser of services from Trump's privately held companies:
As the company spiraled downward, it continued to pay for Trump's luxuries. Between 1998 and 2005, it spent more than $6 million to "entertain high-end customers" on Trump's plane and golf courses and about $2 million to maintain his personal jet and have it piloted, a Post analysis of company filings shows.
Trump also steered the company toward deals with the rest of the Trump-brand empire. Between 2006 and 2009, the company bought $1.7 million of Trump-brand merchandise, including $1.2 million of Trump Ice bottled water, the analysis shows.
"A shareholder who bought $100 of DJT shares in 1995 could sell them for about $4 in 2005," Harwell concluded. "The same investment in MGM Resorts would have increased in value to about $600."
The company went bankrupt, and shareholders saw the value of their remaining stake further reduced as creditors seized a large share of the equity. Trump himself was a major shareholder, so he lost out in the bankruptcy. But since the unsustainable debts had previously been owed by him personally, it was a huge net win for Trump even as his investors took further losses.
no bigger ass, ever. and he is proud of it.
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relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
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#5165dwight don't bother reading, you will never figure it out. try picturesComment -
relaaxxSBR MVP
- 06-15-06
- 3281
#5166The fact of the matter is, however, that whatever mistakes Trump has made in his career the Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts episode was a tour de force. The total sum Trump netted — not just in terms of salary and fees, but in terms of cash paid to his other businesses, personal debts canceled, and overpriced assets bought — is incalculable. And while it would be a mistake to say it was all perfectly legal (there were money-laundering fines, securities law violations, campaign finance fines, etc.) it was legal enough to work.
For voters, of course, the question is what side of the table you're sitting on. Trump now says he's going to put his skills and shrewdness to work on behalf of the American people, striking great bargains for us vis-a-vis China, Mexico, Japan, and our NATO allies. But of course Trump's investors thought the same thing — any casino enterprise is inherently a con, it's just that they thought the gamblers were the marks and they were in on the con. In the end, the joke was on them. But Trump says it's different this time.
go ahead vote for trump , you deserve him.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
- 101161
#5167Originally posted by relaaxxto maximize the value of his holdings Trump needed to find a way to sell casinos to people who didn't know anything about the nuances of real estate tax law. The mom and pop stock investors of the mid-'90s were the perfect suckers, and they bought into the Trump Casino & Hotel Resorts IPO to the tune of $140 million.
The company's sole asset at the time was the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, and the IPO money was supposed to be reinvested in the company. But Trump Plaza was already indebted, so one of the first moves made with the new equity was to pay down the debts — debts that Trump had personally guaranteed, meaning that company money was used not just to relieve a company debt, but a personal debt owed by Trump himself.
any normal person knows that stocks are a gamble. High risk high reward. If you can't afford to lose it, then don't buy them and buy bonds or Gic's. Any financial advisor will tell you this.
Another non story (yawn) passed on by a guy that has a massive hardon for Trump.
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DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#5168Originally posted by relaaxxdwight don't bother reading, you will never figure it out. try pictures
Wow, impressive. You found another lunatic online who shares your goofy view of things.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#5169Originally posted by Hareeba!Really?
So where's the evidence on which you base this claim?
There's plenty of evidence of his failed businesses.
The evidence is in his net worth today, the equity in all his real estate holdings.. He's branched off and created businesses all over America and the World today..
It's safe to say you're not a failed business man when your net worth is in the billions.. He's had failures in business ventures along the way but what successful business man hasn't?Comment -
GregetSBR Posting Legend
- 11-01-10
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#5170Originally posted by ByeSheaCorrect.
Hillary is not a sympathetic figure - she buys ad space for $100k, not a good look. With a single tweet Trump can message far greater than that ad campaign and do something like pledge $100k for the clean up. Why shouldn't he capitalize off her shortsightedness?Comment -
GregetSBR Posting Legend
- 11-01-10
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#5171Originally posted by JIBBBYYour question is where is the evidence that Trump is a successful business man..
The evidence is in his net worth today, the equity in all his real estate holdings.. He's branched off and created businesses all over America and the World today..
It's safe to say you're not a failed business man when your net worth is in the billions.. He's had failures in business ventures along the way but what successful business man hasn't?Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
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#5172Originally posted by GregetExcept he won't release his tax returns, the one that leaked showed he lost a billion dollars of other people's money, which he used to game the system and avoid all taxes for the next 20 years..
So he wants to wait til after the election to show and tell.. Can you blame him for doing that? There is gonna be no illegal activities on his tax returns.. He has a good track record for audits... Don't think he'd risk a stupid move and cheat on his taxes leading into this Presidential election..
Democrats just reaching and straws, trying to find any negative on Trump... It's understandable...Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
- 101161
#5173Originally posted by JIBBBYThe fact remains when rich men like Trump file they claim as many deductions as possible and claim as little income as legally possible to avoid paying taxes.. This will probably show Trump not making much money in the last year and that will hurt his standings as a successful business man while trying to run for office.. Doesn't take away that the man is worth billions and money is coming in...
So he wants to wait til after the election to show and tell.. Can you blame him for doing that? There is gonna be no illegal activities on his tax returns.. He has a good track record for audits... Don't think he'd risk a stupid move and cheat on his taxes leading into this Presidential election..
Democrats just reaching and straws, trying to find any negative on Trump... It's understandable...Comment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-05-09
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#5174Trump sounds like the last guy who ran. Mitt the twit. He lost horribly also.
Mitt showed his taxes and lost. Trump doesn't want to do that, but thanks to his ex, we have a glimmer into this snake running for office.Comment -
bruceBRUCEbruceSBR MVP
- 06-20-09
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#5175Originally posted by JIBBBYDemocrats just reaching and straws, trying to find any negative on Trump... It's understandable...
oh and "Donald Trumps Poll Numbers Are Even Worse Than They Look"
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DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
- 101161
#5176Originally posted by rkelly110Trump sounds like the last guy who ran. Mitt the twit. He lost horribly also.
Mitt showed his taxes and lost. Trump doesn't want to do that, but thanks to his ex, we have a glimmer into this snake running for office.
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GregetSBR Posting Legend
- 11-01-10
- 10502
#5177Originally posted by JIBBBYThe fact remains when rich men like Trump file they claim as many deductions as possible and claim as little income as legally possible to avoid paying taxes.. This will probably show Trump not making much money in the last year and that will hurt his standings as a successful business man while trying to run for office.. Doesn't take away that the man is worth billions and money is coming in...
So he wants to wait til after the election to show and tell.. Can you blame him for doing that? There is gonna be no illegal activities on his tax returns.. He has a good track record for audits... Don't think he'd risk a stupid move and cheat on his taxes leading into this Presidential election..
Democrats just reaching and straws, trying to find any negative on Trump... It's understandable...
And yes, I can blame Trump for not doing what every other presidential candidate has done going back decades, its important that we don't elect someone who could very well be a known tax cheat or worse, why else would he get audited year after year? He has a good track record...really? No one could know the level of criminality that exists in Trump's returns, all we know is that he is very very afraid of releasing them.Comment -
GregetSBR Posting Legend
- 11-01-10
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#5178Originally posted by DwightShruteguys like greget are just deflecting away for Crooked Hillary who blew 6 billion of US taxpayer money, went to bed while 4 americans were being slaughtered in Libya and deleted 33,000 emails after being subpoenaed.Comment -
Hareeba!BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 07-01-06
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#5179Originally posted by JIBBBYYour question is where is the evidence that Trump is a successful business man..
The evidence is in his net worth today, the equity in all his real estate holdings.. He's branched off and created businesses all over America and the World today..
It's safe to say you're not a failed business man when your net worth is in the billions.. He's had failures in business ventures along the way but what successful business man hasn't?
What is his net worth?
He's not prepared to table his assets and liabilities or his tax returns.
If he truly is as successful as you're claiming with that amount of wealth there is simply no way he can still have unrecouped tax losses from so long ago.
It just doesn't add up.Comment -
JIBBBYSBR Aristocracy
- 12-10-09
- 83476
#5180Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbrucethe proper terminology is grasping at straws, not a surprise that you got this wrong, as you're a poorly educated trump supporter, like most of them
oh and "Donald Trumps Poll Numbers Are Even Worse Than They Look"
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...they-look.html
I'm college educated, ran businesses, own property and have never been labelled as being stupid by anyone in my entire life that know me..
Just another tool launching personal attacks on someone they don't know.. That is a reflection of you being immature if we want to get into labels..
Chill Bruce you don't know me...Comment
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