What are some of your live games moves/strategies you like to use?

**thetrinity** · 07-19-12, 08:24 AM

Point 1 makes sense, the other 2 points r ridiculous, live poker isnt the same as the movie rounders.

I dont have a set mindgame strategy really it just comes as i play, i play more online anyways usually.

**daneblazer** · 07-19-12, 08:52 AM

I've always wondered what would happen if you showed up to the table with horrible gas? Would you get kicked off the table? Throw people off their game? Could they pinpoint the culprit? It'd be a little like chemical warfare. Would be interesting to see...

**downsouth** · 07-19-12, 09:12 AM

Ive debated taking my pants off under the table.

**Kaladarus** · 07-19-12, 11:54 AM

For your second point about doing the opposite I don't think that's a good idea. The best thing you can do is do the same thing every time. You should never give out information either way. If you see a bad player at your table they will 100% of the time do what you are saying. If they seem confident they are not and if they seem worried they have a good hand. This is one of the easiest tells in poker against new players.

Your first point is another easy tell, but only to a good/decent player so be careful. Just be careful who you are playing against.

My favorite strategy in the live games is being aggressive whenever there's a good spot. I really like having position on a bad player and isolating them very often by raising them/re raising them preflop. I like raising loose players with good hands and passive players with any 2 cards. I also play a lot of hands in late position and fold almost all hands in early/middle position. This is very basic strategy, but it works very well live because players raise at least 5x the BB very often live.

**Optional** · 07-19-12, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

I've always wondered what would happen if you showed up to the table with horrible gas? Would you get kicked off the table? Throw people off their game? Could they pinpoint the culprit? It'd be a little like chemical warfare. Would be interesting to see...

Originally posted by downsouth

Ive debated taking my pants off under the table.

Are you trying to tell us you have an extra smelly rooster there DS?

**CaDDyy** · 07-19-12, 03:13 PM

Oh shooting angles nothing wrong with that scum bag

**lunchbawks** · 07-19-12, 03:48 PM

check raise everyone with any top pair, open ender, flush draw... u usually get to see the the river for free

**Emily_Haines** · 07-19-12, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by lunchbawks

check raise everyone with any top pair, open ender, flush draw... u usually get to see the the river for free

so you check raise them and after they call you check again

**lunchbawks** · 07-19-12, 04:08 PM

Very polarizing move, because I often have a set, or total air with outs.. most people usually fold after their predictable c bets anyways

**TheCentaur** · 07-19-12, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by CaDDyy

Oh shooting angles nothing wrong with that scum bag

I agree, tactic #3 is scummy but only done to offset the scummy card showing by the opponent.

**TheCentaur** · 07-19-12, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by lunchbawks

check raise everyone with any top pair, open ender, flush draw... u usually get to see the the river for free

I'm talking about live strategies though, that can be done online.

**Deep_Rest** · 07-20-12, 01:23 AM

You should definitely try and maximize the "tourist" angle. If you look like a rounder with your sunglasses and hoodie then sit down at a table with like 6 old Asian businessmen, that's -EV because they'll probably clam up. But if you look like a recreational poker player and act friendly, then sometimes you'll get free money. If you're playing at a table with a bunch of recs, you can try chatting up the people to your right. A lot of times if they're into a conversation they'll instafold to your BB to keep the conversation going since they deem the conversation more important than poker.

Then, if you look like a rec player and you sit with a bunch of hotshot rounders, they will try and run over you, which will often result in free money when they triple barrel into one of your made hands.

Honestly, there isn't much downside to coming into a poker room looking like a tool. Just don't do the "what's the flop?" "how much can I bet?" routine because even rec players will see through your bs. Casual about poker, but not clueless.

Obviously this only works where there are lots of touristy types...NOT recommended for places like Commerce, The Bike, etc. Also, if you keep going to the same casino then over time people will recognize you. I've pulled this routine off with some success @ Vegas Venetian, Caesar's Palace, Grand Lisboa and Wynn Macau.

Once your cover is blown, I recommend raising and 3-betting frequently because it makes casual players very uncomfortable.

The 3-bet is your best friend on all NL games with a $1000 buy in or less. 3-betting in position is pretty much the nuts. You don't even need to look at your hand unless you get 4-betted. You rarely get 4-betted though (and if you do get 4-betted you can throw away JJ or less quite easily). Calling out of position is the most frequent response which is usually the worse move your opponent can make...hence you can capitalize on your opponents mistakes. PUNISH PASSIVE PLAYERS!

**Duff85** · 07-20-12, 02:24 AM

Adjust online aggression slightly and manage rsi from stacking so many chips.

**daneblazer** · 07-20-12, 09:31 AM

Buy in with a short stack then play a lag short stack style. Jam when you can. Show hands. Once you double up or bust rebuy/reload for 100bb or more then play a tag game. Most players will still see you as a bad lag player the rest of the time you're there, give you action when you have good hands, and won't be able to adjust to you.