SBR Poker Championship 2012 leaderboard update

[SBR Lou]

Weekly SBR Poker Championship update.

#	User	Total Points	Cashes
1	slikec	7375	35
2	ArunSh	6335	41
3	JediMindPicks	5710	45
4	sweethook	5425	39
5	the_locksmith	5340	28
6	beachnut	5215	29
7	HauntingTheHoly	5150	26
8	aggieshawn	5145	36
9	BeerDog99	5130	34
10	JohnGalt2341	5100	37
11	dogracin	5085	39
12	4uk4life	5020	34
13	rm18	4945	38
14	msutter	4925	30
15	Carseller4	4900	29
16	Optional	4785	33
17	kaladarus	4760	37
18	shane	4745	32
19	BestPlay2day	4740	40
20	oiler	4650	38
21	k13	4640	38
22	cuse0323	4610	29
23	d2bets	4600	35
24	JAKEPEAVY21	4560	35
25	downsouth	4505	37
26	Stefan	4465	41
27	bobbywaves	4440	38
28	tkim8404	4405	30
29	GaryDN	4335	37
30	cmval	4315	27
31	dumbmoney	4315	28
32	BiTeMeUsAdOj	4290	33
33	jack_matz	4265	33
34	wal66	4265	36
35	GUMMO77	4245	38
36	bracerman	4225	32
37	eleuropeano	4200	27
38	almasters	4195	28
39	big_joe_1212	4180	20
40	BIG	4170	32
41	treece	4165	36
42	Krashman	4140	40
43	WQuine	4070	29
44	zam77	4030	30
45	TheMoneyShot	4005	31
46	TheGiant	4000	33
47	Poker_beast	3985	19
48	shock11	3985	31
49	haxior	3975	25
50	tatddy	3970	29
51	iifold	3955	26
52	nomeansno	3905	29
53	Enkhbat	3900	31
54	DavidSchrebe	3890	26
55	laz	3890	27
56	cabo	3850	32
57	theantfather	3845	28
58	ryanleafofbets	3840	36
59	TheHOFF	3835	25
60	joevig	3810	28
61	Kindred	3755	26
62	cloudagh	3745	29
63	jeffdane	3730	32
64	oneunder	3715	34
65	ezmoney77	3685	27
66	hhsilver	3665	35
67	b1ger1c828	3660	27
68	moyal	3655	27
69	wikkidinsane	3645	24
70	spurginobili1	3585	35
71	rjt721	3540	27
72	sportfan	3515	30
73	stefan084	3515	32
74	eberetta1	3505	46
75	ireland1946	3490	26
76	peacebyinches	3475	27
77	Stifler	3450	36
78	beerman2619	3445	28
79	MrKLC	3395	27
80	yisman	3375	19
81	kidk	3360	28
82	wtt0315	3350	28
83	thetrinity	3337	25
84	qukubau	3305	24
85	bet_that_all	3300	14
86	ttwarrior1	3275	32
87	hels	3265	21
88	panamabrad	3260	29
89	deadphish	3255	35
90	no1here	3245	29
91	horja1	3240	26
92	katstale	3220	29
93	zwoeins	3200	25
94	konck	3170	30
95	frankzig	3150	33
96	MoneyLineDawg	3140	26
97	balla05	3125	23
98	mefirst	3115	20
99	empiremaker	3105	25
100	HotStreak	3100	36
101	mcpicks	3065	23
102	robotralph	3035	18
103	profanereality	3015	23
104	BobLoblaw	3000	32
105	playersonly69	2995	19
106	spankie	2980	25
107	dankelly	2930	19
108	jeffie	2870	23
109	tb1984	2870	31
110	pittmatt80	2840	36
111	VegasVixen	2840	25
112	milwaukee_mike	2815	26
113	Roxxyfish	2745	26
114	boscokid	2735	20
115	jdwars	2735	32
116	MexicanStallion	2725	21
117	Bcatswin	2715	22
118	senseionline	2715	22
119	huesbch	2705	15
120	ronpaul2008	2670	20
121	bill2266	2665	25
122	stevek173	2665	23
123	San2c	2635	23
124	ledsep26	2625	26
125	a4u2fear	2585	21
126	BigDaddy	2540	13
127	mybologne	2530	18
128	quangx	2505	19
129	DrFunk21	2490	25
130	mih847	2445	24
131	sportsfun	2445	19
132	adamho	2440	27
133	shooms79	2440	18
134	blankoblanco	2375	12
135	mp5070	2370	24
136	SomeDayinBuffalo	2360	16
137	brad89	2345	24
138	scalamanga	2335	17
139	mikejamm	2325	16
140	mikemca	2325	22
141	secretstash	2315	17
142	rufflesmuncher	2290	21
143	muldoon	2285	26
144	juicedup	2270	21
145	OTL	2265	18
146	eSTOXX	2240	18
147	diggitydaggitydo	2235	22
148	wulfman14	2235	20
149	peppermillrick	2195	22
150	mjag21	2185	22
151	kidkonggolf	2150	16
152	yahoonino	2150	12
153	mosesmillsap	2095	15
154	stevex	2025	15
155	turtlejc	2025	15
156	borednaz	1980	18
157	sinmiedo	1970	16
158	buffberry13	1940	11
159	footballtime	1940	12
160	QuantumLeap	1940	17
161	mart59a	1935	20
162	KingB1	1910	12
163	pako74	1890	18
164	tunaguitar76	1890	19
165	p0kerdynamix	1870	10
166	stuler	1855	18
167	bradnowell	1840	12
168	bgbootha	1835	13
169	Augustus	1830	17
170	Justin_sane	1810	16
171	marigoldhd	1805	21
172	InSaiyan	1795	9
173	oChRoNiCo	1780	13
174	brutal	1775	14
175	KalouKalou	1745	15
176	NittanyLion	1705	15
177	Miklos	1680	13
178	dbear808	1675	12
179	rezster	1670	19
180	gruntworker	1660	12
181	budman77j	1655	13
182	SlickRick1382	1645	14
183	dogkatcher	1615	17
184	Czu81	1585	13
185	SEAWEED	1555	11
186	bignicki26	1545	7
187	soul786	1535	16
188	wileout	1535	13
189	joeyp1222	1530	15
190	RealMadrid	1520	14
191	eddiemoneyline	1490	11
192	vladu89	1475	13
193	koldazzice	1470	13
194	Pegasus	1460	15
195	dtp	1455	12
196	zacharyj53	1450	17
197	lucky888	1435	8
198	Sherlokas	1430	8
199	ShawNee922	1400	18
200	Diesel79	1390	14
201	legendmatt34	1390	8
202	weems2k	1390	15
203	rnoutlaw21	1380	10
204	kingmayan	1375	12
205	robert_wrath	1375	11
206	RudyRuetigger	1335	10
207	bachngocduong	1330	6
208	jpowderly	1320	6
209	snoopaloop31	1320	13
210	memo99	1305	8
211	petriux	1300	11
212	lvherbie	1290	5
213	biglouie66	1265	6
214	Im_Lucky	1265	6
215	70kgman	1255	16
216	rolkis143	1255	12
217	DJDalamar	1250	12
218	dikefale	1245	8
219	anderson6129	1240	13
220	Barracuda	1225	11
221	iamamonkey	1220	12
222	NEEDMORECOFFEE	1210	10
223	Pareto	1210	14
224	Ninersnut	1200	10
225	bennybignuts	1190	8
226	hockey216	1190	13
227	gryfyn1	1185	9
228	emily_haines	1180	11
229	MATCHBOOKSUcks	1160	11
230	j37hr0	1132	12
231	smoke	1125	12
232	ddjuric	1120	10
233	jcubs55	1120	9
234	leggysoe	1110	12
235	1949	1090	8
236	revnecro1273	1085	9
237	rickie65	1075	9
238	exposinglines247	1070	11
239	moicapaul	1070	11
240	wareagle205	1070	6
241	frogsrangers	1035	9
242	mw00	1020	9
243	dwwu	1010	10
244	freeagent	1000	6

[BigDaddy]

i keep falling further behind each week

not good

[JAKEPEAVY21]

[slikec]

Wau thumbs up for fast update I am still leading the pack Makes me sad i didnt find about poker promos sooner.

[Carseller4]

I passed Optional!!!

[peacebyinches]

thought I would be higher up after a good week

ty for the quick update also

[bobbywaves]

Silkec is playing some tremendous poker to maintain 1,000 pt lead over 2nd place. It's unfortunate he won't be rewarded for it with a higher starting chip stack at the 15k tourny. He could stop playing now & probably still make the top 50. If the starting chip stacks at the 15k tourny were % based on your finishing points, then the top players would have more incentive during the final weeks. Making the tourny more competetive & interesting. It's still a great touny in current format..... just a suggestion how to make it better in the future, if this will be an annual tourny.

[d2bets]

Silkec is playing some tremendous poker to maintain 1,000 pt lead over 2nd place. It's unfortunate he won't be rewarded for it with a higher starting chip stack at the 15k tourny. He could stop playing now & probably still make the top 50. If the starting chip stacks at the 15k tourny were % based on your finishing points, then the top players would have more incentive during the final weeks. Making the tourny more competetive & interesting. It's still a great touny in current format..... just a suggestion how to make it better in the future, if this will be an annual tourny.

Interesting idea. Maybe not a percentage, but maybe slightly higher stacks depending on finishing order. Not too out of whack or it won't be competitive. Maybe stacks ranging from 3,000 to 1,500 depending on finishing order.

[milwaukee mike]

Interesting idea. Maybe not a percentage, but maybe slightly higher stacks depending on finishing order. Not too out of whack or it won't be competitive. Maybe stacks ranging from 3,000 to 1,500 depending on finishing order.

terrible idea

rewarding people that have already received more points even further

giving a double stack 1st vs 50th is a ridiculously huge edge

[milwaukee mike]

the structure of the payout in the championship tourney is what would need fixing

8th place $500
9th place $400
10th place 1000 points
11th place 950 points

so you go up from $48 to $50 to $400 to $500

i would rather be out of the money than finish 10th

[k13]

the structure of the payout in the championship tourney is what would need fixing

8th place $500
9th place $400
10th place 1000 points
11th place 950 points

so you go up from $48 to $50 to $400 to $500

i would rather be out of the money than finish 10th

That's actually how most tourneys are, 1st place $10k and 11th place $10.....

[d2bets]

terrible idea

rewarding people that have already received more points even further

giving a double stack 1st vs 50th is a ridiculously huge edge

It is. But shouldn't there be some benefit to finish 1st in points vs. 50th?

[bobbywaves]

terrible idea

rewarding people that have already received more points even further

giving a double stack 1st vs 50th is a ridiculously huge edge

An edge that would be well deserved. Otherwise there's no incentive to play the last few weeks or even months for some top players like slikec. Would it still be a terrible idea if you were in 1st place? Think not.

[k13]

terrible idea

rewarding people that have already received more points even further

giving a double stack 1st vs 50th is a ridiculously huge edge

You can have 10000 chips Mike and I'll have a 1000, the edge won't be as huge as you think......

[SBR_John]

Silkec is playing some tremendous poker to maintain 1,000 pt lead over 2nd place. It's unfortunate he won't be rewarded for it with a higher starting chip stack at the 15k tourny. He could stop playing now & probably still make the top 50. If the starting chip stacks at the 15k tourny were % based on your finishing points, then the top players would have more incentive during the final weeks. Making the tourny more competetive & interesting. It's still a great touny in current format..... just a suggestion how to make it better in the future, if this will be an annual tourny.

Great idea but we do not have the technical ability to pull that off.

[milwaukee mike]

An edge that would be well deserved. Otherwise there's no incentive to play the last few weeks or even months for some top players like slikec. Would it still be a terrible idea if you were in 1st place? Think not.

you answered your own question for me so why even ask it?

yes there's incentive, that was my point. the incentive is that you are winning points all along, as the daily tournaments are hugely +ev.
11 points for a max 50 people should pay out 550 points at most, and they pay out 2500 points

if i was guaranteed top 50 i would still play every day

i will write this in all caps and explain a little further this time IT IS A TERRIBLE IDEA TO CHANGE THE RULES IN THE MIDDLE OF A TOURNAMENT

[milwaukee mike]

It is. But shouldn't there be some benefit to finish 1st in points vs. 50th?

perhaps there should be some benefit, but it should be decided before the start. remember all the backlash last time when they made up rules mid-stream and said tournament points already earned counted? that was ridiculous, people would've made sure to play more often if that was the case.
same here, some guys in the top 50/top 100 that feel safe might not be playing every day and to change the rules now would be really unfair

[bobbywaves]

Question was asked to prove my point. Playing for pts is obviously not the same incentive as playing for a higher starting chip stack, this will be evident when you see less players the final few weeks. Even if you finish in the top 20 for pts which is no guarantee on a daily basis, you still need to roll them over which is no guarantee as well. Some top players will value their time more than pts in the final weeks, if they do play it would be to keep their game sharp & not for the possibility of pts to be rolled over. Obviously the rules can't be changed in the middle of a tournament, the suggestion was for next year. Since they don't have the technical ability to do it, it's a mute point now. Far from a terrible idea though.

[SBR Lou]

Have you ever seen Poker Stars start with diff stacks based on player points or cashes in a calendar year? Or ever?

[big joe 1212]

Silkec is playing some tremendous poker to maintain 1,000 pt lead over 2nd place. It's unfortunate he won't be rewarded for it with a higher starting chip stack at the 15k tourny. He could stop playing now & probably still make the top 50. If the starting chip stacks at the 15k tourny were % based on your finishing points, then the top players would have more incentive during the final weeks. Making the tourny more competetive & interesting. It's still a great touny in current format..... just a suggestion how to make it better in the future, if this will be an annual tourny.

Or another way of putting it is that all the losers who play every day because they have no life should get bigger stacks in the tourney

Some better players can't keep pace playing in just 50% of the daily tournies

[k13]

Have you ever seen Poker Stars start with diff stacks based on player points or cashes in a calendar year? Or ever?

Rarely but they had a bounty shootout or that type of tournament where stacks/KO's carried over.

Maybe some bonus poker points to the Top 10 finishers next time, just throwing out some ideas.

[milwaukee mike]

Question was asked to prove my point. Playing for pts is obviously not the same incentive as playing for a higher starting chip stack, this will be evident when you see less players the final few weeks. Even if you finish in the top 20 for pts which is no guarantee on a daily basis, you still need to roll them over which is no guarantee as well. Some top players will value their time more than pts in the final weeks, if they do play it would be to keep their game sharp & not for the possibility of pts to be rolled over. Obviously the rules can't be changed in the middle of a tournament, the suggestion was for next year. Since they don't have the technical ability to do it, it's a mute point now. Far from a terrible idea though.

that didn't stop sbr the last time


sorry originally when i said "terrible idea" i didn't know you guys were both talking about NEXT year

but i still wouldn't agree with it, if you give double the stack for 1 vs 50, then do the extra seats that win the 51-100, 101-150, etc all start with only 1500 also?
gives more incentive to the guys at the top to keep playing, but gives less incentive for the guys under 50 to keep playing

i still think the payout structure is the thing that we should be focused on, to have a dropoff from $500 8th to $400 9th and then all the way down to $50 for 10th is really silly

and bobby just for future reference the term is "moot point" not "mute point"

[a4u2fear]

damn, played in one tourney last week and didn't cash, and dropped about 20 places.

[wtt0315]

just give carseller extra chips. That will be good for the rest of us.

[Carseller4]

that didn't stop sbr the last time


sorry originally when i said "terrible idea" i didn't know you guys were both talking about NEXT year

but i still wouldn't agree with it, if you give double the stack for 1 vs 50, then do the extra seats that win the 51-100, 101-150, etc all start with only 1500 also?
gives more incentive to the guys at the top to keep playing, but gives less incentive for the guys under 50 to keep playing

i still think the payout structure is the thing that we should be focused on, to have a dropoff from $500 8th to $400 9th and then all the way down to $50 for 10th is really silly

and bobby just for future reference the term is "moot point" not "mute point"

I made a mute point once but nobody heard it.

[Jeffie]

Maybe reward first place a freeplay in the sportsbook, but def not a bigger starting stack in the 15k.

[GUMMO77]

An edge that would be well deserved. Otherwise there's no incentive to play the last few weeks or even months for some top players like slikec. Would it still be a terrible idea if you were in 1st place? Think not.

Please, some of you "top players" take the last month off to rest and prepare for the championship.

[wquine]

maybe a better idea is to get 5 tokens every week instead of the once a day rule so that you could fit in around work schedules. i don't see how anyone could have an objection to that. obv, this is soemthing for the next tourney, but if you like the idea then nominate the post.

[4uk4life]

Not me, I'm playing til the last day lol. I have a baby on the way and have the approval to finish this out, I'll have plenty of time to take off after the big one with a baby waking me up every 2 hours

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

maybe a better idea is to get 5 tokens every week instead of the once a day rule so that you could fit in around work schedules. i don't see how anyone could have an objection to that. obv, this is soemthing for the next tourney, but if you like the idea then nominate the post.

This is a decent idea and I nominated the post for consideration of it, but I believe SBR's BrainTrust would ultimately see it as a potential logistics problem, i.e., tournies chock-full on one day... and like 15 people in a tourney some other days.

The one-a-day format kinda ensures an even distribution of players throughout the week and for that reason (predominately) I don't see the 5 tokens idea coming to fruition. (tho I personally would not be opposed)

[BeerDog99]

This is a decent idea and I nominated the post for consideration of it, but I believe SBR's BrainTrust would ultimately see it as a potential logistics problem, i.e., tournies chock-full on one day... and like 15 people in a tourney some other days.

The one-a-day format kinda ensures an even distribution of players throughout the week and for that reason (predominately) I don't see the 5 tokens idea coming to fruition. (tho I personally would not be opposed)

Stop making so much sense.

[wquine]

hat makes sense biteme, maybe give it a trial on a smaller scale promo (like a month) and see what happens... should i start a new thread?

[MoneyLineDawg]

Maybe a combination of the 2......5 tournies a week, but max 2 a day?

Also wish there was one around 1-2 am EST......Sometimes the only good time for us night owls and a very nice time for the west coasters as well

[HauntingTheHoly]

I think players finishing near the top should get some kind of a bonus for sure. And this isn't necessarily self-serving b/c I've missed many and know that I will have to miss many more, (aka I prolly won't finish top 10)

[jeffdane]

that didn't stop sbr the last time


sorry originally when i said "terrible idea" i didn't know you guys were both talking about NEXT year

but i still wouldn't agree with it, if you give double the stack for 1 vs 50, then do the extra seats that win the 51-100, 101-150, etc all start with only 1500 also?
gives more incentive to the guys at the top to keep playing, but gives less incentive for the guys under 50 to keep playing

i still think the payout structure is the thing that we should be focused on, to have a dropoff from $500 8th to $400 9th and then all the way down to $50 for 10th is really silly

and bobby just for future reference the term is "moot point" not "mute point"

10th place doesnt usually pay anything on a real tourney of this size. lucky if it goes beyond 3rd